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We need security for politicians and other public figures. (Look south of the border for far more extreme situations than what we've got!) It has to be the job of those security personnel to stop bad stuff from happening to the people they're responsible to protect.

Go try that stunt on an American political figure in a comparable position and let me know what happens.
 
We need security for politicians and other public figures. (Look south of the border for far more extreme situations than what we've got!) It has to be the job of those security personnel to stop bad stuff from happening to the people they're responsible to protect.

Go try that stunt on an American political figure in a comparable position and let me know what happens.
Ever watch the media follow politicians thru the halls of the Capitol? Not much different.

You would never see a secret service member set a pick on a reporter, let alone arrest him, particularly one they know very well. If that happened to a Fox reporter, even CNN would go berserk.

Not the first censoring of Rebel by the federal Liberals. Recently Steve Guilbeault, Environment Minister was court ordered to stop censoring Rebel thru a govt Twitter /X account, then ordered to pay $20k in taxpayer dollars to cover Rebels legal costs.

 
He respectfully asks some questions, without laying a hand on freeland, the camera pans away so no idea what assault occured. The camera pans back to the police officer vigorously shoving the guy.

Yes, hes a reporter, even if hes not state sanctioned by pravda.

The "assault" was the guy walking into the cop.
 
The "reporter" also has a wee bit of history, too. All while cameras were conveniently rolling. It reeks of being a manufactured situation.

Him hounding Patrick Brown for using a Brampton hockey rink for him and his buddies to play pickup games while it was closed to the public due to Covid was hilarious.
 
Whole thing was a nothingburger. Evidence: no charges.
I don't see how anyone can look at this and not see it as a gross overstep.

How you can defend the RCMP manufacturing a charge to get rid of someone they do not like is baffling to me.
 
Might want to watch that video again. The Rebel "News" (ed: they're not actually recognised as a news organisation - there was a court case a while back which concerned this) "reporter" (ed: see above) pushed his way into Freeland - the "reporter" (really just a private citizen) is the one that started the pushing and shoving. I challenge any private citizen to do the same thing and see what happens to them. (I challenge any private citizen to do the same thing to a corresponding US politician and see what happens to them!) The "reporter" also has a wee bit of history, too. All while cameras were conveniently rolling. It reeks of being a manufactured situation.

And ... released without charges.

It's on video. He didn't push into Freeland, he went to step around a pole and the cop stepped out in front of him while his head was turned towards freeland, the cop then claimed assult on a police officer. The story isn't really political, it's just a cop power tripping, unless he's been instructed to stop any uncomfortable questioning of her.
 
The cop definitely caught him crossing the blue line with his head down.
 
So the arrest was “ assaulting a police officer “ , he was detained and released. Was it without charges ? Or charges dropped ? I’ve heard both reported on various news sources and they are VERY different things .
Even if not convicted or charges are dropped, the fact you were charged never comes off your record.


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The "assault" was the guy walking into the cop.
I think it's probably the other way around.

The cop set a pick to stage physical contact, that's clear as day. Police have a role in protecting people, and vulnerable public servants sometimes need extra protection.

It crosses the line when a media person, well known to be physically harmless (albeit annoying) has their charter rights interfered with by state-sponsored intimidation or censorship.
 
I think it's probably the other way around.

The cop set a pick to stage physical contact, that's clear as day. Police have a role in protecting people, and vulnerable public servants sometimes need extra protection.

It crosses the line when a media person, well known to be physically harmless (albeit annoying) has their charter rights interfered with by state-sponsored intimidation or censorship.

I agree.
That's why I put the quotations around the word "assault"
I hope the reporter does pursue legal action... I think that cop should be reprimanded.
 
So the arrest was “ assaulting a police officer “ , he was detained and released. Was it without charges ? Or charges dropped ? I’ve heard both reported on various news sources and they are VERY different things .
Even if not convicted or charges are dropped, the fact you were charged never comes off your record.


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It would have been detained and released without charges. There wasn't enough time for them to file the charges.. and then drop them.

There's a difference between someone's record.. and their CPIC history.
Dropped or withdrawn charges shouldn't show on someone's criminal record.. It should only show convictions...
but as I understand it.. every interaction with the police can be recorded in CPIC.
 
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It would have been detained and released without charges. There wasn't enough time for them to file the charges.. and then drop them.

There's a difference between someone's record.. and their CPIC history.
Dropped or withdrawn charges shouldn't show on someone's criminal record.. It should only show convictions...
but as I understand it.. every interaction with the police can be recorded in CPIC.
Except he was not detained. He was told clearly on video he was under arrest.

Being told you’re under arrest means the officer has enough probable cause to believe that you did/were going to commit a crime.

Being detained means you’re under investigation while they decide if they have enough PC for an arrest.
 
Except he was not detained. He was told clearly on video he was under arrest.

Being told you’re under arrest means the officer has enough probable cause to believe that you did/were going to commit a crime.

Being detained means you’re under investigation while they decide if they have enough PC for an arrest.

You're right. Bad choice of words on my part. But, I don't think there was enough time for them to actually lay the charges and then withdraw, or drop, them.
I should have said.. Arrested and released without charges.
 
Menzies seems to be an equal opportunity pest. Here's Runkle of the Bailey's take on it:
 
But it ignores reports that say that more than 60% of Canadians *DO NOT* take home more from the rebates than they spend. In fact, even the Liberals themselves have acknowledged this.

Still waiting @Shaman

For the record, to go back a few pages, I'm pretty sure we're still waiting on those citations...
 
For the record, to go back a few pages, I'm pretty sure we're still waiting on those citations...
You can work yours out here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...r-2023-24-year-65-dollars-per-tonne-1.6891467
If you drive a significant amount using gasoline, you'll end up paying, especially if you use any natural gas. I'm not seeing how 80% will come out ahead as per the government.

Edit: Here's an article that shows that the tax increases everywhere except Quebec, that might render the above calculator obsolete.
Here's how much more Canadians will be paying in federal income tax hikes
 
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I think it's probably the other way around.

The cop set a pick to stage physical contact, that's clear as day. Police have a role in protecting people, and vulnerable public servants sometimes need extra protection.

It crosses the line when a media person, well known to be physically harmless (albeit annoying) has their charter rights interfered with by state-sponsored intimidation or censorship.
The clip I saw wasn't 100% clear but we in Canada have the right to travel. If some jerk violates that by blocking you they can be arrested. I have no love for Freeland but she has the same rights even if she doesn't deserve them. I don't know what the psuedo reporter wanted to ask her but it would be a waste of time. Liberals don't answer questions. They only spew rhetoric.

So if Joe Average is blocked by some jerk who wants Joe to touch or brush against him to provoke a fight what are Joe's options?

Stand there for an hour or two?

Push by and become the aggressor?

Call 911 and a unit shows up a day later and doesn't press charges. If charges are pressed the crown doesn't proceed due to backlog.
 
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