mbroyda
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im kinda like your friend when it comes to street riding.
but other kinds of riding I can do in any weather
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Who's still riding? (Fall & Winter 2018 Edition)
- Thread starter PrivatePilot
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im kinda like your friend when it comes to street riding.
but other kinds of riding I can do in any weather
wolfpack27616
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My little 1982 Honda CT110 (yes, carb'd of course!) has no problem starting in negative temps... and it only has kick-start!
You have too little faith in your machine, long live smaller bikes!!!
Lol- I grew up riding 100cc kickstart carb bikes...Oh man, It was like a workout trying to get it started during monsoon. It's been so long that I have almost forgotten those days of kicking about 50-60 times to get it started.
Xhumeka
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I kickstart my TE450 ('07, last year they were carb'd) whenever its warm just to keep my right leg in shape
But I can't imagine trying to kickstart it after sitting for a month or more. It has a decompression system but it's never been connected for as long as I've owned the bike (since '08 lol).
Those "hyperchargers" do nothing except extract money out of the pocket of the person who was gullible enough to buy it.
A read some real world testing at some point in the past where someone tested the "boost" (or rather, lack thereof) that these things generated. IIRC they did nothing to generate any kind of forced induction whatsoever until north of 200KPH or something like that, and even then, it was 0.25PSI or something virtually useless.
But he probably has tons of motorcycle clothing and "Live to ride, Ride to live" stuff all over everything he owns, right? It always seems that the "bikers" that try the hardest are the ones that actually ride the least, calling 1000KM in a year an "big season".
A 1970's Trail 70 was my first bike. I rode the wheels off that thing. I bumped into the current owner of it a few years ago and actually rode it with my daughter on the back - that was the first time in probably 30 years I'd ridden it. Sadly, it hadn't been maintained very well. I tried to buy it back so I could restore it and have it for an in-town fun bike (they were road legal, after all), but he wouldn't sell it.
Last year someone rode one to Bike Night in Peterborough.
Mad Mike
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They do work! About 5 years ago a friend of mine got into motorcycling and HAD TO HAVE a cruiser. He bought a Honda Shadow... to keep company I bought a M50 that came with V&H straights and a Hypercharger. I laughed at the Hypercharger for about 2 minutes than I ripped it off the bike. Strangely, performance dropped... a lot. I didn't do anything scientific to prove it out, but I did a few 0-100MPH tests and the hypercharger on was about 4 seconds faster.
I also had a Power Commander on the pig, I suspect the combo of PC, straight pipes and the easy breathing hypercharger worked better than the stock air filter. Maybe a few flowing K&N would have done the same. Maybe it worked like Harley mods -- the extra chrome just juiced the bike.
There's nothing that makes them work. The whole idea behind them is that they cause a limited amount of forced induction, but forced induction by airflow alone requires ludicrous speed to accomplish much, and they're actually vented to reduce any effect that *might* happen because it causes issues with mixtures.
So basically, it's a fancy looking free flowing intake with silly flappy things that up the farkle factor. And not much more.
For those who took the stock filters off and installed one of those and noticed any sort of actual measurable difference, it likely had more to do with an old restrictive and/or clogged stock filter being removed and replaced by something more free flowing. Any free flowing filter/intake would accomplish the same - the hypercharger gizmo has little to do with it.
And more often than not, the "results" are actually nothing more than a placebo effect "seat of the pants" measurement. People *think* their bike is somehow more powerful or faster, so therefore, it must be true. People think their motorcycle gained all softs of horsepower when they install loud pipes because the sound makes them perceive such. Therefore it must be true.
In reality, it's often little or none, especially if they don't re-jet or tune the bike to take advantage of the exhaust changes.
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Veej
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So rode into work today, it was around 1c when I left, had the VTX idle for 5 minutes with the choke on. She starting running smoothly a few mintutes into the highway . The traffic was light on 401, just a bit of bottle neck at entrance of 401 and DVP until past Yorkmills exit and then free flying again at 120 km.
The ride home should be awesome with light traffic and higher temps.
First ride of the year for me !
The ride home should be awesome with light traffic and higher temps.
First ride of the year for me !
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CalamariGSX-R
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Awesome. I had a nice ride. The streets looked slick so I was extra cautious, likely just wet. It will burn off by tonight. Getting a new rear tire pit on at the shop right now.So rode into work today, it was around 1c when I left, had the VTX idle for 5 minutes with the choke on, It was great once I hit the highway. Ride into work was awesome with light traffic on 401, just a bit of bottle neck at entrance of 401 and DVD just past Yorkmills exit and then free flying again at 120 km.
The ride home should be awesome with light traffic and higher temps.
First ride of the year for me !
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I thought about riding to work this morning but road conditions in my neighbourhood were just lousy still.
Tomorrow for sure.
Tomorrow for sure.
I imagine it was sketchy up your ways (Peterborough?) this morning. My Street in Port Perry had very little pavement showing... mainly icy snow. I didn't have an issues but was very gentle riding until I got onto main roads then is was fine.
..Tom
Veej
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Yep streets looked super slick, almost as there was a light coating of ice, you just need to ride extra cautiously, I felt my rear tire slide a wee bit at times.
My bikes before my 1981 Suzuki GS850G were all kick start: Honda 90, Honda CB175, Honda CB350 (I actually don't remember if the CB350 had electric start) and 1969 Norton 750 Commando.
The Norton was an absolute bear to start in the morning. It always took 20 to 30 kicks to start no matter how I choked (or didn't choke), primed it (or didn't) Throttle open, closed, whatever, fuel petcocks open, closed. It simply didn't matter. It didn't want to wake up.
Now this bike took a lot of effort to kick. It was a parallel twin and I am sure no sure thing as a compression release. You had to make sure your knee was locked solid when you kick started it as if it kicked back it would break your knee. (There are stories of people getting launched by Norton's kicking back.) After 20 or 30 kicks you would be soaked in sweat.
Strangely after the first start of the day after that usually would start with one kick.
..Tom
Veej
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The Kick Start!!....Ahhhhhh.....those sweet days of my teens and twenties....
I wish we had the option of having a starter and a kick start as well. I also grew up with kick start bikes and love the feel of kicking the damn thing and hearing it roar to life.
The exhilaration and heart pumping blood racing thrill you get from awakening the beast from it's slumber with your own flesh and muscle can never be matched by that of the minuscule little plastic button.
Yes I Love that we have the starter button but to have both for the nostalgic days would be a dream....
Trials
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Probably true, my BB34 Goldstar sent me over the bars a couple of times.
I understand it and it reminds me or an Automatic Watch verses Quartz. The Quartz does a much better job of telling time ( in reality my fitness tracker on my wrist and my cell are even more accurate) but there is something special about taking care of a pure mechanical machine.
Having said that I really like that I tap the starter on my bike and literally am riding a second or two later. No Kicking. No fiddling with choke etc. No waiting for "warm up". Just start and go!
..Tom
Trials
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Was an awesome 1953 motocross only version and the one bike that I wish still owned, full knobby tires, no lights or extras, manual advance for the Lucas competition magneto ignition and high pipe, no decompressor, leather like brakes were almost useless, Amal carb had a tickler instead of a choke so your left hand always smelled like leaded gasoline. Vibrations were so intense at higher revs that it blurred your vision. When you powered on and looked behind you could see where the rear tire was breaking loose on each power stroke. Even worse then the kick-back was when the starter would just completely lock up for some reason :/ never did get that issue sorted out. Hate to even imagine what it would be worth now, that was in the early 1970's.
Pretty much this bike except it had a steel tank with badges instead of decals, no tach and no centre stand:
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wolfpack27616
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yeah- Electric start any day for me! I remember buying my 1st "electric" start motorcycle and feeling happy that there would be no more Van Damme stunts.
Courtice.
Our side streets were a mess. Main streets, once you got there, still slushy and wet in spots.
Not worth it.
Tomorrow.
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