Whitby Accident Victim Identified

They can't prove it was him on the bike, they are going around talking to riders to see if anyone knows him. This opp officer told us that the guy on the bike was racing with another car, the cop saw them and lit the cherries. Both the bike and the car took off and "when it got stupid she fell off"

I could understand the bike out running the police cruiser, but the car! What kind of car was it??
 
I could understand the bike out running the police cruiser, but the car! What kind of car was it??

It was a fairly short distance from when the roof lights when on to where the body fell onto the highway. That ended the pursuit right there. I'm surprised that nobody here in tin foil hat land has suggested that the rider might have deliberately dumped the passenger to tie up the cop and thus facilitate the get-away.
 
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It was a fairly short distance from when the light when on to where the body fell onto the highway. That end the pursuit right there. I'm surprised that nobody here in tin foil hat land has suggested that the rider might have deliberately dumped the passenger to tie up the cop and this facilitate the get-away.

having some one fall is one thing, i don't personally know anyone who wouldn't be upset over the idea of some one falling off the bike and being run down, though the can understand it happening. to suggest that the rider gave their passenger the boot is akin to murder, only a psychopath would think of dumping the passenger to escape.
 
They also apparently no (sic) who the guy is.

They can't prove it was him on the bike

Bingo.

i heard the guy lawyered up and turned himself in but the SIU investigation prevents release of this information to the media.

They're still working on spinning how the cop ran over the wife.



I'm surprised that nobody here in rose coloured glasses has suggested that the rider might have deliberately dumped the passenger to tie up the cop and thus facilitate the get-away..........wait, I just did


Fixed.
 
i heard the guy lawyered up and turned himself in but the SIU investigation prevents release of this information to the media

just goes to show you how reliable the "grapevine" is

This is also possible based on what this cop
told us. They go knocking on the guys door
and by that time he has already lawyered up. I know that if they loose sight of you for I think ( could be wrong) 5 seconds then they can't prove it's you on the bike.
 
I could understand the bike out running the police cruiser, but the car! What kind of car was it??

Cop didn't say his exact words were "high powered car". The cop was being kinda non-chalant about the whole thing. He just asked us if we heard anything on the grape vine and that's about it. I had to ask him for a description of the bike and a few others there hadn't heard about the incident so that's why he went through the events.
 
It was a fairly short distance from when the roof lights when on to where the body fell onto the highway. That ended the pursuit right there. I'm surprised that nobody here in tin foil hat land has suggested that the rider might have deliberately dumped the passenger to tie up the cop and thus facilitate the get-away.

My personal opinion, is that the girl didn't know the rider, when things started getting crazy, she got scared and jumped off due to the dangerous speeds.
 
To read these threads is funny and scary at the same time. They haven't released much info because it is STILL being investigated. All you guys with your messed up theories and understanding of how it "really went", are very confused, and perhaps should start writing drama books.

The girls fell off bike for UNKNOWN reasons, the rider CARELESSLY rode away after reasonable knowledge that he had lost his passenger (criminal offense in itself),the riders name has not been released EVEN if they have a suspect or "persons of interest" because that in itself could hinder the investigation, and the fact that numerous drivers struck this victim and then proceeded to not stop, is not only almost TYPICAL behavior of persons in this situation, it is almost understood. I have worked in this exact field for over 8 years and although this sounds very horrible, the only person who behaved innappropriately and WILL be punished, will be the rider of the bike. The persons who struck this girl I'm certain will NOT be charged and are only being sought (if not found already), to assist in the investigation.

All these theories of him "purposely making her fall off to avoid capture", or the cops "hiding the story to cover their own buts", or anything else I keep reading here are not only VERY incorrect and almost comical, but in my opinion very dis-respecting to the girls family. These "stories" are yet another reason Police are so vague with what details they release. Now when they have CREDIBLE information provided to them, it carries much more weight because it is not just a "twisted up story that was made up by groups of people that have their own story making ways to change things".

May this passenger rest in peace, and may this rider get his day to explain his actions so that we THEN can understand his mindset at the time, and THEN he can pay for his actions. NOTHING anyone will ever do will make him pay enough, or bring back this PRESUMED INNOCENT lady passenger, who I'm VERY certain did not simply "jump" off this bike for all the crazy reasons some of you feel she may have.
 
I'm surprised that nobody here in tin foil hat land has suggested that the rider might have deliberately dumped the passenger to tie up the cop and thus facilitate the get-away.

Actually I'm sure he hacked up the girl and piled her into a garbage bag many hours earlier. He was going to dispose of the body but the cops were on him so he just tossed the bag on the highway to gain speed so of course it exploded when it hit the ground and spread her body parts all over the highway.

Fact.
 
...the rider CARELESSLY rode away after reasonable knowledge that he had lost his passenger (criminal offense in itself),..

And your assertion above is pure speculation as well. We don't know if he was in fact carelessly riding away, did it intentionally, or felt that perhaps his life was under threat a well.

Bottom line is that while it sure looks like he is acting like a coward and scoundrel and a million other low things, we just don't know. Any comment on what happened is pure speculation until the facts are released.

..Tom
 
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i heard the guy lawyered up and turned himself in but the SIU investigation prevents release of this information to the media

just goes to show you how reliable the "grapevine" is


SIU can't prevent that kind of news release. Especially if he ends up in court for a bail hearing.....public record.
 
having some one fall is one thing, i don't personally know anyone who wouldn't be upset over the idea of some one falling off the bike and being run down, though the can understand it happening. to suggest that the rider gave their passenger the boot is akin to murder, only a psychopath would think of dumping the passenger to escape.

But the rider not stopping or coming forward immediately following the incident is normal behaviour????
 
All these theories of him "purposely making her fall off to avoid capture", or the cops "hiding the story to cover their own buts", or anything else I keep reading here are not only VERY incorrect and almost comical, but in my opinion very dis-respecting to the girls family.

I agree that the theories here are almost comical. That's why I said I was surprised that nobody had suggested that the rider deliberately dumped the passenger, because just about every other inane assumption and theory had already been made in what is close to a total information vacuum.
 
Actually I'm sure he hacked up the girl and piled her into a garbage bag many hours earlier. He was going to dispose of the body but the cops were on him so he just tossed the bag on the highway to gain speed so of course it exploded when it hit the ground and spread her body parts all over the highway.

Fact.

Now that's a great almost comical theory but it has a flaw in it that ensures it will never gain traction here. The flaw - how do you blame the cops for any part in it, other than maybe not being there to guard and protect her 24/7 like some here think the cops should do with their bikes.
 
But the rider not stopping or coming forward immediately following the incident is normal behaviour????

there's actually a thread on that, a few people state that if they could get away with it they wouldn't turn them selves in. I think the more you have to lose the higher the chance the guy would hide, ie some professional with a family.
 
there's actually a thread on that, a few people state that if they could get away with it they wouldn't turn them selves in. I think the more you have to lose the higher the chance the guy would hide, ie some professional with a family.

Are we agreed, however, that it's not normal behavour? As in...possibly some latent mental health issues that have a person wired so differently than most.

People who say they would run in such a situation, or wouldn't turn themselves in are not right in the head. IMHO. And should never be entrusted with much by anyone.
 
Are we agreed, however, that it's not normal behavour? As in...possibly some latent mental health issues that have a person wired so differently than most.

People who say they would run in such a situation, or wouldn't turn themselves in are not right in the head. IMHO. And should never be entrusted with much by anyone.

Wired differently than most? Hmmm. It's been my general observation that people generally want to pass the buck, avoid getting caught red handed and also not own up to something bad if they can avoid it.

I can see the rational for not coming forward and it doesn't mean you're a monster.
 

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