When does WW III start?

What if Pakistan goes "Nuclear Rogue". Say a "terrorist" group gets its hands on a bomb? Proxy black flag op?

So far, I've only heard of one country in history using nuclear weapons against human beings. Hint: wasn't Pakistan. A rogue can take over nuclear weapons in any country and some governments are worse than any terrorist rogue you could dream of.

Iran has not attacked any country since 1798? Weren't they in a war with Iraq in the 80's?

They attacked Iraq the same way Finland attacked Russia in the Winter War :cool:
 
So far, I've only heard of one country in history using nuclear weapons against human beings. Hint: wasn't Pakistan. A rogue can take over nuclear weapons in any country and some governments are worse than any terrorist rogue you could dream of.



They attacked Iraq the same way Finland attacked Russia in the Winter War :cool:

I don't seriously think any terrorist or rogue Pakistan, or any other stan will go nuclear, but it would certainly be the rhetoric / narative the US will employ to sway India inline with an Anglo agenda against the Eastern Alliance / Non Alligned Nations.
 
I don't seriously think any terrorist or rogue Pakistan, or any other stan will go nuclear, but it would certainly be the rhetoric / narative the US will employ to sway India inline with an Anglo agenda against the Eastern Alliance / Non Alligned Nations.

While India may have an all-out private war to exterminate Pakistan, they wouldn't go past a token skirmish with them in a world war scenario because:

1) China's right there
2) They remember what China did to them last time around
3) They know China's relatively and absolutely better armed, financed and equipped than they were last time Indian troops got their ***** handed to them by the Chinese

The Chinese are in greater need of maintaining good relations with the Islamic nations in the region because they don't really have their own oil (certainly not enough to sustain their industry). The Russians have Siberia so they'd defend Iran less desperately than the Chinese. China doesn't; want to be solely dependent on the USSR.. I mean Russia :cool:
 
Great vid! Should wake up most of the morons posting on here.

BTW...all this saber rattling from the US is just a diversion of the real problems facing the US. Their national debt is exploding in their faces thus you see the US Fed pumping $40 billion per month into buying back the bonds.

This is a MUST WATCH on this topic:
[video=youtube;P02vjiEZyUs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P02vjiEZyUs&feature=share[/video]

Benjamin Bernanke LIED To The World About QE3 & Unemployment & Reggie Middleton Calls Him On It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvMlDtDDgps


Jesse Ventura - "Every War Starts With A False Flag"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Zf1Crxx6s
 
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While India may have an all-out private war to exterminate Pakistan, they wouldn't go past a token skirmish with them in a world war scenario because:

1) China's right there
2) They remember what China did to them last time around
3) They know China's relatively and absolutely better armed, financed and equipped than they were last time Indian troops got their ***** handed to them by the Chinese

The Chinese are in greater need of maintaining good relations with the Islamic nations in the region because they don't really have their own oil (certainly not enough to sustain their industry). The Russians have Siberia so they'd defend Iran less desperately than the Chinese. China doesn't; want to be solely dependent on the USSR.. I mean Russia :cool:

For the most part I can agree with you, however I still have this nagging suspicion that the US really needs India to open up another land front against China, while also not allowing easy passage to Iran. I have a feeling the US would successfully con / convince / lure India into a war. If the US could convince India that an American naval front in the South China and the East China Sea would weaken or distract China, I think India would join in, all be it reluctantly.

Look out in the near future for the US sending defence shield technology to India the way they did with Turkey in the Commie days and that will be a good indicator.

Oops, looks like that is already happening (just blogosphere talk for now, but look out for it on the major news carriers soon):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLpPBwVqxUw
http://www.art-of-strategy.com/2012...ncrease-defence-trade-but-f-35-deal-unlikely/

If you combine the technical superiority of the US army with raw Indian human fodder to lob at Chinese soldiers (with the understanding that Chinese technical might will increase rapidly over the next 10 years), the US may see a good chance at defeating a combined China and Russia, while still managing the various Mid East "contagen" eer I mean "Spring".

Right now the US has no chance against China when it takes all that it does to move from one petty Muslim state to the next.

America has very very long term plans. In this way they are quite impressive how far ahead they plan, and I think they are planning on facing off with China 10 to 20 years from now, and in the mean time a policy of threats and smacking around lesser allies or other states to get the point across is the order of the day. Syria is a great example of the US testing the political waters with China....Iran is a more serious next step. The US is too late to block China in Africa despite the new concentration on the Africa Command:

Africa Comman: http://www.africom.mil/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_Command

The 5 other global Commands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Combatant_Command

Anyone else have "Global Commands"??!!?!?! Ready for World War Much?!?!?!
 
Great vid! Should wake up most of the morons posting on here.

BTW...all this saber rattling from the US is just a diversion of the real problems facing the US. Their national debt is exploding in their faces thus you see the US Fed pumping $40 billion per month into buying back the bonds.



Benjamin Bernanke LIED To The World About QE3 & Unemployment & Reggie Middleton Calls Him On It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvMlDtDDgps


Jesse Ventura - "Every War Starts With A False Flag"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Zf1Crxx6s

You know what is concerning....what do the last 2 and possibly next Chairmen of the Federal Reserve all have in common:
Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernake, and possibley next Jamie Dimon?

Actually look up the entire list of FED Chairmen from its creation. Chairmen # 1,3,4,5,6,10,12(some controversy around this one),13 and now 14 have something in common. Let's not forget prior to FED Chairmen #1, there were also those that helped create (secret meeting on Jekyll Island to form the FED) and advocated for the FED, Paul Warburg.

Representation by population? Hmmmmmm.

They are also those itching to trigger WW3 by the way vis a vis a "pre-emptive" strike on Iran regardless if the American people support them.
 
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Great vid! Should wake up most of the morons posting on here.

BTW...all this saber rattling from the US is just a diversion of the real problems facing the US. Their national debt is exploding in their faces thus you see the US Fed pumping $40 billion per month into buying back the bonds.



Benjamin Bernanke LIED To The World About QE3 & Unemployment & Reggie Middleton Calls Him On It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvMlDtDDgps


Jesse Ventura - "Every War Starts With A False Flag"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Zf1Crxx6s

Wow!!!! This is the BBC footage Ventura was talking about that Pierce doubted!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

In it, the BBC reporter is going on and on about the Salomon Brothers Building (WTC Building 7) having already collapsed, when it is actually standing there behind her!!!

Coincidently to add fire to the Mossad conspiracy theory....the developer (as most of you probably know already) and land lease owner of WTC7 was/is Larry Silverstein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

PS Larry Silverstein's bid for the 99 year WTC lease back in 2001 was NOT the lowest bid! The lowest bid was instead by an equity firm Vornado (chairman Steven Roth...you guessed it!!!!) and they pulled out in the last minute. Steven Roth is also noted as a major Jewish contributor to the Romney campaigne donating $100 thousand to his superPAC.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rom...gifts-from-some-of-obamas-2008-jewish-donors/

But they also donate to the Democratic party as well, hedging their bets I suppose. My point being, even if Silverstein fluked the lease bid, there were others among the bidders who would have secured it. On a cute side note, Steven Roth purchased Bernie Madoffs $9.4 million home.

If Mossad really was involved in 911, then WW3 has already begun.
 
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Some of you probably know this already but remember that interview with now retired US General Wesley Clark in 2007. Here's a piece of the transcript:

[Wesley Clark] About ten days after 9/11 I went to the penatagon and I say secretary Rumsfield and Deputy Secretary Wolfweitz.
I went down stairs to see some of the staff who used to work for me and one of the Generals called me in and said “Sir, you have got to come in. Come in, you have got to come in and talk to me a second.”
I said “Well, your to busy”.
He said, “No, No, we have made the decision to go to war with Iraq”. This was on or about the 20th of September [2001].
I said “We are going to war with Iraq? Why” [emphasis added].
He said, “I don’t know” [crowd laughs]
He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do”. [crowd boos].
So I said “Well did they find come information connecting Saddam to Al-Queda?”
He said, “No, No. There is nothing new that way, they just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.”
He said, “I quess its like, we don’t know what to do about terrorists but we have a good military and we can take down governments”
So I came back to see him a few weeks laters and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said “Are we still going to war with Iraq?”
And he said “Oh, its worse than that.”
He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper.
He said, “I just got this down from up stairs from the Secratary of Defense’s office today. This is a memo that describes how we are going to take out 7 countries in 5 years.”
“Starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebenon. Then Lybia, Somalia and Sudan. Then finishing off Iran.”
[Amy Goodman] “Go Through the countries again.” [crowd laughs]
[Wesley Clark] “Well starting off with Iraq, then Syria and Lebenon, and Lybia, Somalia and Sudan. and back to Iran.”

Looking at what happened to Iraq and the uprising in Syria & Lybia and the heat brewing around Iran, I dont know what my opinion really is here but seems like some of what he said has come to fruition.
 
Some of you probably know this already but remember that interview with now retired US General Wesley Clark in 2007. Here's a piece of the transcript:

[Wesley Clark] About ten days after 9/11 I went to the penatagon and I say secretary Rumsfield and Deputy Secretary Wolfweitz.
I went down stairs to see some of the staff who used to work for me and one of the Generals called me in and said “Sir, you have got to come in. Come in, you have got to come in and talk to me a second.”
I said “Well, your to busy”.
He said, “No, No, we have made the decision to go to war with Iraq”. This was on or about the 20th of September [2001].
I said “We are going to war with Iraq? Why” [emphasis added].
He said, “I don’t know” [crowd laughs]
He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do”. [crowd boos].
So I said “Well did they find come information connecting Saddam to Al-Queda?”
He said, “No, No. There is nothing new that way, they just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.”
He said, “I quess its like, we don’t know what to do about terrorists but we have a good military and we can take down governments”
So I came back to see him a few weeks laters and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said “Are we still going to war with Iraq?”
And he said “Oh, its worse than that.”
He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper.
He said, “I just got this down from up stairs from the Secratary of Defense’s office today. This is a memo that describes how we are going to take out 7 countries in 5 years.”
“Starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebenon. Then Lybia, Somalia and Sudan. Then finishing off Iran.”
[Amy Goodman] “Go Through the countries again.” [crowd laughs]
[Wesley Clark] “Well starting off with Iraq, then Syria and Lebenon, and Lybia, Somalia and Sudan. and back to Iran.”

Looking at what happened to Iraq and the uprising in Syria & Lybia and the heat brewing around Iran, I dont know what my opinion really is here but seems like some of what he said has come to fruition.

WW3 has already begun. The Muslims were never a threat. Global resource control and hording is the main goal, to stifle the growth of China or any future would be empire. The Muslim world has been on its knees for over 200 years, they pose no real threat at all. They have no armies, no useful weapons. They produce no weapons (with the exception of short to medium range Iranian rockets, developed only recently). They have no viable economy, no unified government, pact, alliance, ambition, goals. The wars in the Arab states are all about regional hegemoy over cheap oil, and as I say, America will "light the oil fields" (decades of chaotic wars) in the region when China tries to expand, while the US relies on domestic and Latin + African oil. Turn the ME into a war zone, move into Africa, and cut off any challenger to US superiority.

Were Muslims ever a threat to American INTERESTS? Yes, but not to America. But the US has convinced the world that a threat to "interests" is a threat to sovereignty! I am interested in your bike, does that mean I can fight you for it? F NO! In this regard Muslims / Arabs / the ME has NEVER been a threat to the US in any way EVER!!!

The next series of proxy wars will be in Africa to prevent China from expansion there.

The US has already surrounded China from the West, and is now moving its navy in position to surround it from the East. India is a buffer to the south west.

WW3 posturing has already begun. Now all we need is the match...queu Isreal!
 
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It's about time the next world war happened. Very few major diseases/plagues... Human population is going out of control.
 
Iran has not attacked any country since 1798? Weren't they in a war with Iraq in the 80's?
They were attacked and invaded by Iraq (backed by Great Britain and US). They defended themselves and at the end, borderd stayed the same as before the war. It was a defensive war on Irans behalf and an offensive one on Iraq's Saddam
 
I agree with every single point you made in your post. Too bad certain interests, along with their bought and paid for US and Israeli politicans don't. If we attack Iran (and there's a good chance we'll join the US attack on them as Harper's still crying over us not having gone into Iraq), there'll be hell to pay from China and Russia. That is a very realistic conflict scenario.

Iran is not Iraq.

Go in there and you will be handed your *** in short order.

Personally I think we should leave them alone. They want nuclear power, so be it. it's not our place to say they can't have it.

They want Nuclear weapons? Same thing. The US has had it and has used it twice (not counting testing) so they should STFU.

Iran can go broke on a weapons program just like the Russians did or the can power their country with it.

None of our god damn business.
Im glad someone mentioned this. I agree 100%. Im not one to support WMDs on any kind but its pretty obviously ridiculous that theyve given nuclear weapons to Iran's biggest enemy, Israel and telling Iran not to have any and not to defend itself! Israel has the biggest nuclear pileup in the middle east and has been breaking UN resolutions all over its history and a huge part of what people call israel is OCCUPIED TERRITORY according to the UN RESOLUTION of 48. Yet no ONE bothers them or dares to question it but Iran, a country that MAYBE working to build one is the biggest evil? And as it was mentioned, who the hell is the US, the country that actually DROPPED nuclear weapons on CIVILIANS to call any other state unstable and threatening. As far as terrorism and a threat to world peace goes, US is the biggest criminal with all of its death tolls piling up in the past century. People need to reazlie that while the Iranian government has no regards for human rights and is far from a just government, compare to the US, theyre nothing when it comes to endangering innocent lives all over the world.
 
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The Muslim world has been on its knees for over 200 years, they pose no real threat at all. They have no armies, no useful weapons. They produce no weapons (with the exception of short to medium range Iranian rockets, developed only recently). They have no viable economy, no unified government, pact, alliance, ambition, goals.

Looks to me like they are still in the Stone age, 200 years behind us in social and moral values.
Some of their cultural beliefs are pretty sickening.
Screaming emotionally about some stupid film made by some idiot sets them up into a "Death to America" really shows how uncivilized some of these "Muslims" are.
 
Jessie Ventura for President!!!

He'll pull everyone home, close every foreign American base, and close every foreign embassy (I'm not entirely sold on that last one though). Democrats=Crips and Republicans=Bloods.
 
"quote from Awala"
The Muslim world has been on its knees for over 200 years, they pose no real threat at all. They have no armies, no useful weapons. They produce no weapons (with the exception of short to medium range Iranian rockets, developed only recently). They have no viable economy, no unified government, pact, alliance, ambition, goals.

Looks to me like they are still in the Stone age, 200 years behind us in social and moral values.
Some of their cultural beliefs are pretty sickening.
Screaming emotionally about some stupid film made by some idiot sets them up into a "Death to America" really shows how uncivilized some of these "Muslims" are.

Technology develops, morality doesn't. Don't confuse the two. American "rage" is expressed differently, and usually kills more (with RC planes and estranged consciences).

"Moral superiority" is a mighty ironic enabler.
 
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