Cummings? Who makes that motor?
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What pickup truck do you use?
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Cummings? Who makes that motor?
My mates Ridgeline has hauled a 6 x 12 enclosed trailer with 2 sports bikes and gear for 3, + another sports bike in the bed all the way to North Florida and back twice now. Averaged around 18l/100kms for the whole trip. I really don't get this "not a real truck" line.
Because it's unibody. Lots of people say it's not a real truck for that reason. It's also why the capacities are down a bit from some of the competition. Of course it can haul all that stuff easily. It's rated for a 6800 lb towing capacity or something like that. Like I said, if I needed a truck, I'd buy one. But if you REALLY need that extra 1500 lbs or whatever a body on frame gets you, or some hardcore offroading, the Ridgeline isn't quite the right truck. Although from what I've seen no pickups are great for offroading.
Just cuz I feel like sharing, here's a nice "road" I had to take this summer, heh.
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IIRC its 5000 lbs
You are correct.
rmemedic
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I have a 2012 SLT 4x4 hemi quad cab. For a full size I get good hwy mileage. I've hit 700km on a 90l tank of straight highway a few times with it. Just be easy on the gas and keep it under 120. In town it's not awesome... But, as mentioned I had the 5 cyl canyon and with 7" of lift and big tires my fuel mileage was like a full size, only 2/3 the power and half the cargo. But, it was reliable. Consider a v-8 version of one in 4x4 (mine was unstoppable) and leave it stock, it won't be so bad. And a smaller truck in the city is a bonus.
I would stay away from toyotas, the tailgates bend in the middle with 500lb sleds being loaded in. And a sled has less PSI on the ground than a lighter bike. Plus their fuel economy isn't so awesome, even for a truck and I feel the prices are too high in the used market.
The diesel ram 1500 may be my next truck honestly.
I would stay away from toyotas, the tailgates bend in the middle with 500lb sleds being loaded in. And a sled has less PSI on the ground than a lighter bike. Plus their fuel economy isn't so awesome, even for a truck and I feel the prices are too high in the used market.
The diesel ram 1500 may be my next truck honestly.
Id say dont get a Tundra based on gas guzzling alone I have the 5.7, but I have never had a problem with my tail gate on either my 08 or my 2012. The tail gates on the first production runs didnt have enough welds, and would peel the skin off and bend when loading really heavy things, or people driving with the tail down and weight on it which you are never supposed to do. My 08 was a better truck however, my 12 has already had 2 issues and I only have 18,000 km on it, my air pump went, and my steering rack went also.....My 08 I never did anything other then oil changes, and never had one problem up until the day I gave it back and picked up my 12
Funny thing everyone made a big stink about the gas pedal recall on them, I never did mine, I drove it for 4 years and just kept tossing out the recall letters they would send me every month....I never found the time to bring it in, and I never had a problem with it, gave it back without the recall done on it
One thing if you are going to spend money on a truck and drive it all year, get 4x4! Buying a full size pickup wihtout 4x4 is just stupid IMO.....Once it starts snowing and everyone starts driving 10km/h, I slap it into 4x4 and have run drifting around them at 60km/h+
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My 2012 Ram Quad cab 4x4 Hemi gets better mileage than that towing my horse trailer which is taller and probably weighs more empty than yours did full. I get between 15-17l/100km on the highway depending on load and terrain while towing.
I averaged 12.5l/100km on a trip to Alberta I made last year with 5 people and a fully loaded box. I have gotten as low as 10 on the highway driving like there was an egg under my foot. The truck usually averages around 17 cause it is mostly driven in the city.
^ but what speed were you going to only use 15 - 17 L/100 km when towing with a hemi V8 Dodge? Folks that I know with similar trucks are using that much just in normal driving, nevermind with anything in tow at all. Sounds too good to be true.
I saw how fast that Ridgeline was going with that trailer ... it makes a huge difference.
All of the gas engine trucks on that trip were all towing big trailers and they all sucked gas big-time. There was one diesel truck, but it was an enormous crew cab dual rear wheels Ford with the old 7.3, and it was not great, either, because of the size and weight of the truck.
Point of comparison, on the same trip, Ford Expedition with the old 4 speed automatic towing a big enclosed trailer (not sure on length but I think it was 6 feet wide and high, which is what matters for aero) and 3 bikes in the trailer used 21 - 23 L/100 km and that was driving at 100 km/h with overdrive turned off. It would not pull 4th gear with the torque converter locked up with that trailer. 3rd in lockup steady is better than 4th no lockup and downshifting to 3rd no lockup at the sight of a hill. That truck had a 5.4 that sucked gas like a 7.4 but felt like a 2.4, and the old-technology transmission did not help matters.
The newer Fords use a 6 speed automatic with smarter controls and "tow/haul" mode, which should work better.
Also, with the Dodges, if you buy a new one, the Pentastar V6 has as much power as many of the older V8's ... probably more than that Ford 5.4 did ... and it comes with the 8 speed transmission. With that truck, the new VM-Motori 3.0 V6 diesel (and 8-speed) is the way to go with towing, though.
I saw how fast that Ridgeline was going with that trailer ... it makes a huge difference.
All of the gas engine trucks on that trip were all towing big trailers and they all sucked gas big-time. There was one diesel truck, but it was an enormous crew cab dual rear wheels Ford with the old 7.3, and it was not great, either, because of the size and weight of the truck.
Point of comparison, on the same trip, Ford Expedition with the old 4 speed automatic towing a big enclosed trailer (not sure on length but I think it was 6 feet wide and high, which is what matters for aero) and 3 bikes in the trailer used 21 - 23 L/100 km and that was driving at 100 km/h with overdrive turned off. It would not pull 4th gear with the torque converter locked up with that trailer. 3rd in lockup steady is better than 4th no lockup and downshifting to 3rd no lockup at the sight of a hill. That truck had a 5.4 that sucked gas like a 7.4 but felt like a 2.4, and the old-technology transmission did not help matters.
The newer Fords use a 6 speed automatic with smarter controls and "tow/haul" mode, which should work better.
Also, with the Dodges, if you buy a new one, the Pentastar V6 has as much power as many of the older V8's ... probably more than that Ford 5.4 did ... and it comes with the 8 speed transmission. With that truck, the new VM-Motori 3.0 V6 diesel (and 8-speed) is the way to go with towing, though.
One other small point ... My diesel Jetta with open trailer with 2 bikes on it uses 8.5 - 9.0 L/100 km when cruising at 110 - 115 km/h (70 mph in the US). Based on "fuel used per bike hauled down there" it would have been better for me to take the Jetta with one other person, than to split the ride 3 ways in the truck! But ... then I would have had to drive for 12 hours out of the 24, instead of 8, and that would have sucked.
Wow, that's a lot of fuel. With a small camper (14ftx6ft @ 1500lbs) 2 bikes in the bed and everything else needed for a weekend of racing including tires and fuel my 2011 duramax gets between 16L-20L/100km doing 110-115km/h, empty I average between 9L-13L/100km depending on traffic and that's at 120km/h.
I'm happy for you.
And of course, Kentucky, Tennessee and the Smokey Mountains are similar terrain to the Canadian Prairies.
For the record Brian, our average speed was about 120kph. Honest. Anything below 120kph and you can't 1-wheel the trailer.
Good point about the terrain. I seem to recall that Expedition having to go into 2nd gear up some of the hills. I know that a friend's Astro needs 2nd to go up some of those hills.
And that is where the diesels have another advantage. My diesel Jetta, with two bikes in tow (total about 1600 lbs including trailer), would go up any hill on any US interstate that I have seen, in no lower than 4th. It would do most hills in top gear with the cruise control on. Takes a while to accelerate ... but once there, takes a lot to slow it down, too. There are a couple of hills on US 441 near Franklin TN that I take in 3rd going downhill, not because of lacking power (obviously), but rather to avoid melting the brakes.
And that is where the diesels have another advantage. My diesel Jetta, with two bikes in tow (total about 1600 lbs including trailer), would go up any hill on any US interstate that I have seen, in no lower than 4th. It would do most hills in top gear with the cruise control on. Takes a while to accelerate ... but once there, takes a lot to slow it down, too. There are a couple of hills on US 441 near Franklin TN that I take in 3rd going downhill, not because of lacking power (obviously), but rather to avoid melting the brakes.
Lol my WRX uses as much gas as your Duramax.
Thats a lot of motor for s bronco.
After driving a modern diesel, I won't buy another gas truck. You know you NEED one!
Fixed that for you.
The 78-79 was the first generation of the big Bronco and the last generation with the solid front axle. The front end was able to support the cast iron Ford big blocks, I don't think a Cummins would be any extra load.
FWIW I installed a hitch on my Toyota Echo and pull a trailer. Without the trailer I get 50mpg. It's a 2000 with over 400K on the odometer and it still has the original battery, muffler, coolant and tranny fluid. The motor's never been apart.
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