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What drives you to push yourself?


Pushing this topic in another direction.

I'm noticing a very common trait with the hyper-successful. They always talk about not fearing the pain, the despair, and the failures. The theme is always to embrace it, let it wrap around you, and pull the ******* pain with you.

I remember when I first started working out. I was obese as ****. I hated looking at myself in the mirror. And honestly I know every out-of-shape fat **** feels the same way. I call them fat fucks because that's what I still call myself. I am significantly stronger, and faster than most but in my mind, I am a weak, fat, stupid, imperfect, flawed, sack of **** that is ready to quit every god damn day. There's somebody out there stronger. There's somebody out there faster. There's somebody out there who has better genetics, outputting 10% of my effort, and kicking my god damn ass.

One of my ex-managers was really good as a manager....except he was so damn insecure. The dude is obese. I have no issues with coming to work and screaming "I JUST BROKE MY DEADLIFT PR OF 405LB, I WEIGH 160." Every time he'd get insecure. He would flip the focus and say "I can't work out because I have arthritis." Or it'd be that kids take too much time. Or too much pain. Whatever.

...I was never trying to trigger him. I just wanted to celebrate a victory, because they come very rarely (twice a year?), with people I see everyday. The girls across the room would congratulate me, sometimes asking me to "wink" my pecks. The CEO would always be very impressed because he used to be a marathon runner. But my focus was on my manager and the god damn weakness he was exhibiting. The bleeding insecurity. The realization that he is literally an alternate version of me. The coward I was, and can easily become. The default state that every one of us are born into.

I do not want to ever go back to that state.
 
Personally I just work through failure but have no desire to go to the gym etc couldn't care less about it. I do **** up every so often but it isnt the end of the world tomorrow will bring another opportunity. I could call it tomorrow and retire but need something to do so I carry on and do a good job.
 
george__ said:
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It is scary how much you and I think alike
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I sincerely hope your family didn't **** you up mentally like mine did me lol

Scuba Steve said:
Personally I just work through failure but have no desire to go to the gym etc couldn't care less about it. I do **** up every so often but it isnt the end of the world tomorrow will bring another opportunity. I could call it tomorrow and retire but need something to do so I carry on and do a good job.
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To each their own. I enjoy the challenge and failure that comes with pushing physical (and often mental) limits. I find failure comes far more frequently in this realm and it really helps shape my mind so I'm aware of what is my ego, potential, and current status.
 
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For me personally it is all based on growth. As a man first, to work and develop my character. Understand my flaws and how to get rid of my toxic behaviours. A sense of a higher purpose is what led me to quit my (very comfortable) job of 14 years to go and start my own business. To go and start from the bottom again, only now I'm in control of my future and can act on the goals I've longed to achieve.
 
This thread reminds me of an article I was reading today about habits of rich people many live in smaller houses and stay there and they also drive cheap American cars. if I see it I will post the link. The only billionaire I personally know looks like he would be hard pressed to pay for his dinner and drives an older base pickup truck. He got there by figuring out how to save a dollar here or there then did it millions of times.

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You guys are making me regret my decision to have some chips.....

EDIT: No regrets. Chips were delicious.

@Scuba Steve I'm sure there's something missing out from this story. You don't become a billionaire by saving a buck or two here or there...guy probably set up some phenomenal business, or is a whizz in the market.
 
mimico_polak said:
You guys are making me regret my decision to have some chips.....

EDIT: No regrets. Chips were delicious.

@Scuba Steve I'm sure there's something missing out from this story. You don't become a billionaire by saving a buck or two here or there...guy probably set up some phenomenal business, or is a whizz in the market.
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I've read Principles by Ray Dalio and it does mention what Steve is hinting at. The dude is very rich lol
 
mimico_polak said:
You guys are making me regret my decision to have some chips.....

EDIT: No regrets. Chips were delicious.

@Scuba Steve I'm sure there's something missing out from this story. You don't become a billionaire by saving a buck or two here or there...guy probably set up some phenomenal business, or is a whizz in the market.
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No innovative business he just figured out how to build houses slightly cheaper than others and made it a feature people paid for. and multiplied that by 1000s of houses. He would also build one to rent for every 10 he sold ending up with over 1000 fully paid for houses rented out. Selling houses and replacing them with 2 new ones when they got to be 10 years old so there were neglible maintenance expenses. He is down to 500 or so houses now and not replacing them just selling them at 10 yrs old. Also the cheapest guy I know. Made a killing as well in the stock market during the last recession


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Scuba Steve said:
No innovative business he just figured out how to build houses slightly cheaper than others and made it a feature people paid for. and multiplied that by 1000s of houses. He would also build one to rent for every 10 he sold ending up with over 1000 fully paid for houses rented out. Selling houses and replacing them with 2 new ones when they got to be 10 years old so there were neglible maintenance expenses. He is down to 500 or so houses now and not replacing them just selling them at 10 yrs old. Also the cheapest guy I know. Made a killing as well in the stock market during the last recession


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That's the way to do it. Good for him. Find a niche and go with it. I sometimes wish I had that entrepreneur spirit in me. Nice to dream, but I'm not sure what I'm good enough at to go at it...it sure as hell ain't building houses!
 
The guys I hang out with most are all wealthy, and the wealthiest of them drives a 15 year old boxster in the summer and a golf as his winter car. His house is probably about 1200sqft and doesn't even have a garage. The rest have normal houses with ford escapes. I believe Steve completely. Not to mention, wealthy people don't get wealthy by giving their money away. They will not get wealthy by saving a buck or two here and there, but buying a $30k car instead of a $100k car and investing the other $70k surely will help. Or buying a $400k house instead of a $1.2mil house and investing again will do wonders. Unless you're born into money, you can either get rich or look rich, but generally, not both.
 
Renboy said:
Umm, the baby boomers were the result of a war that ended, they weren't actually involved in it. They did get the benefit of Trudeau Sr.'s rampant spending. Everyone hated Mulrooney for bringing in GST, but he had no choice. Trudeau went to the bar, gave drinks to everyone, then on his way out handed the bill to Mulrooney. Trudeau was bar none the worst thing to happen to Canada in it's entire history. He single handedly increased Canada's debt over 700% during his tenure. But the cops, teachers and firefighters love him.

In short, yes, the boomers screwed the future for generations.
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What benefits of rampant spending do you recall? Record unemployment, inflation, and increases in taxation... is that what you mean?

You are correct, PET was careless with the public purse (as his son, but no more than most of the world in those years.

Perhaps you could list a few specifics as to how the Baby Boomers screwed the future generations?

Im just wondering what Baby Boomers are thinking today as they watch the govts shuffled in by Millenials as the crush all prior records for wreckless and wasteful deficit spending?
 
What benefits of rampant spending do you recall? PET built centennial parks and post offices all over the place, those were pretty useful, or at least I used them lots, not sure about the rest of you ;)
 
POWERMAN said:
I turn 34 next year...which means I have around 31 years remaining if I live long enough to hit 65 in 2052.
I've seen what happens to the older men in my family...not exactly pleasant lol...definitely not looking forward to the retirement years (short lived, if even).
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Similar circumstances, but I'm of the exact opposite mindset. I'm 32. My dad passed away at 54, it was ugly. His dad passed away at 53, it was ugly. That's why i worked my ass off and started making moves as soon as possible, rather than wait for life to happen. Bought my first property, a little condo, at 23, flipped it to buy a 3 bedroom detached house with a two car garage at 25, flipped that after extensive renos about 4 ish years later and live comfortably now while being self employed, I keep my expenses low and try to keep as much free time as possible, a lot more than most of my friends with career jobs and kids. Fear of the future shouldn't bother you, it should light a fire under your ass to be amazing now and build for an amazing tomorrow, just in case you get it :)
 
adri said:
Similar circumstances, but I'm of the exact opposite mindset. I'm 32. My dad passed away at 54, it was ugly. His dad passed away at 53, it was ugly. That's why i worked my ass off and started making moves as soon as possible, rather than wait for life to happen. Bought my first property, a little condo, at 23, flipped it to buy a 3 bedroom detached house with a two car garage at 25, flipped that after extensive renos about 4 ish years later and live comfortably now while being self employed, I keep my expenses low and try to keep as much free time as possible, a lot more than most of my friends with career jobs and kids. Fear of the future shouldn't bother you, it should light a fire under your ass to be amazing now and build for an amazing tomorrow, just in case you get it :)
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Similar situation for me, lots of the family move on in their 50s. I decided at 20 I was going to cram 40 years of living into the next 20–and I did. At 50 I had a date with the Widow Maker as had many before me, luckily I made it where most don’t.

Now every day is a gift. Fortunately I’m in good shape physically and financially, the new goal is 70.
 
90% of my family on both sides make it into their 90's . Short term planning is not allowed, thankfully due to the miracles of modern medicine the quality of life isn't awful.
And most of us will be retired before you get the windfall of inhierted cash, these people just wont die.
 
@george__

I was thinking this weekend about how you, myself, and 2 others all ended up with this hyper realistic, no sugarcoated, pretty dark view of the world. The common traits are:
  • We're all Asian
  • We all held Eastern values at birth (did you?)
  • We were exposed to Western values
  • Toxic/unstable family environment
Something that's worth thinking about is emphasis on Western values in a Western country. The values are held in absolute certainty that "this is the correct path." I don't know about you, but the buddies I know did fight a lot as children with their parents due to the clashing values; I can't remember a singular event, but I remember both my parents mentioning how they had a hard time adapting too. If we combine this with an unstable/toxic family environment, a child that hasn't had fully developed "psyche" is more at risk to turn outward for direction (why follow Eastern values if the two main followers in our life are unstable or toxic?)

It would make sense those foolish enough to cast aside our Eastern values to be more susceptible to nihilism because both Eastern and Western values have huge flaws (individualism versus collectivism as an example.) If the underlying value system we've had is unstable....well, nothing matters. The problem with nihilism is it leads to justification of anything....and that's bad lol

Anyway, no real solution or anything. Just food for thought. I do want to emphasize that I'm not faulting Canada or Western society for being racist because a white guy in Japan, China, or Korea will get the same racist treatment we got here.

Edit: Holy ****, maybe weeaboos/Wapanese develop this way because I know a few as well
 
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