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[DownUnder]

Sadly this wasn’t a secret, indigenous, churches, NGOs and govt have known about these burial sites for more that 100 years. Not a secret, not a mystery, just an out of bounds discussion for all concerned. nobody wanted to go there.

When I look at this I think all of the above acted shamefully in silence for the last 100 years.

You have to also consider the school was there for close to 100 years, that's an average of 2 deaths per year, and a lot of that time was before modern medicine where something like an appendix would be a death sentence for a child, or the Spanish flu etc.

What would the school do with the bodies of a deceased child? Take it back to its village? Or bury it on the school grounds.

The headlines seem really bad but the reality probably isn't. There is no way a GPR can give you enough detail to say how old a child in a grave is. Did any of the graduates come forward over the years and describe any wrongdoing by the staff?

 

[GreyGhost]

You have to also consider the school was there for close to 100 years, that's an average of 2 deaths per year, and a lot of that time was before modern medicine where something like an appendix would be a death sentence for a child, or the Spanish flu etc.

What would the school do with the bodies of a deceased child? Take it back to its village? Or bury it on the school grounds.

The headlines seem really bad but the reality probably isn't. There is no way a GPR can give you enough detail to say how old a child in a grave is. Did any of the graduates come forward over the years and describe any wrongdoing by the staff?

Many people provided anecdotal evidence of atrocities. There is little doubt they happened. Are the bodies natural death or horrible? No way to know without digging. Are there 215? No way to know without digging, that was just a BS propaganda number.

Typical Gpr image below. You can see there is something and possibly the size but that's about it, the rest is educated guesses until you dig.

 

[ToSlow]

I know it's youtube, But it makes a person open the eyes

 

[Dimitri]

You might want to go back and google this. I've read a few of the meanings for this Nuremberg Code and not one mentioned anything about antivaxxers

The Nuremberg Code is being brought up by a lot of anti-vaxxers across social media. Since last year actually, here is a "fact check" of this complaint back in June of 2020.

Nuremberg Code Addresses Experimentation, Not Vaccines - FactCheck.org

A bogus claim that "[v]accines are in direct violation of The Nuremberg Code" has been circulating on social media. Actually, the Nuremberg Code addresses the treatment of human subjects in medical experiments and says nothing about the use of tested and approved vaccines on patients.

www.factcheck.org

While I recommend everyone be skeptical, and actually do research, very few will ever read proper studies that have been published. They are a bore, let's be honest and blunt, social media frenzies are much more fun.

 

[Dimitri]

What about if you already had covid?

Reading the data drop of the 3,200+ pages of Fauci emails, I found one early on that might interest you.

 

[Brian P]

For all the fuss being made on social media about Dr Fauci's emails, I have yet to see any pointed out which indicate anything other than a dedicated long-term government employee doing what his job required him to do. (I am NOT going searching for anything nefarious. I wouldn't want someone to do that to me ... I'm not going to do it to someone else.)

Are there things that he changed his mind about over time? Sure. That's what scientists do, that's what decision-makers do when faced with having to make a decision but having only incomplete, or even wrong, information on hand. When the facts change, change your mind.

Sticking steadfastly to a particular course of action, because that's the course of action you initially set, even in the face of further information suggests that it may no longer be the right thing to be doing ... is something that a politician does.

 

[Dimitri]

For all the fuss being made on social media about Dr Fauci's emails

I like to read source material before I pass judgement. What hype there is on social media is just that, hype, and likely skewed by those both for and against him.

The most "shocking" thing about the emails is the number of times he has to say he isn't being muzzled by the administration. People demanding he resign in protest over being muzzled, and other similar emails. The vast majority of emails are him passing them off to someone else to answer standard questions.

 

[ToSlow]

For all the fuss being made on social media about Dr Fauci's emails, I have yet to see any pointed out which indicate anything other than a dedicated long-term government employee doing what his job required him to do. (I am NOT going searching for anything nefarious. I wouldn't want someone to do that to me ... I'm not going to do it to someone else.)

Are there things that he changed his mind about over time? Sure. That's what scientists do, that's what decision-makers do when faced with having to make a decision but having only incomplete, or even wrong, information on hand. When the facts change, change your mind.

Sticking steadfastly to a particular course of action, because that's the course of action you initially set, even in the face of further information suggests that it may no longer be the right thing to be doing ... is something that a politician does.

I don’t think you’re grasping the scope of how this man manipulated the public for personal finance gain.

And how he lied about not financing gain of function in the wuhan lab

 

[Dimitri]

I don’t think you’re grasping the scope of how this man manipulated the public for personal finance gain.

Fauci's emails were a bore, trust me I went through all 3,200 pages. I'd wager 90% was him forwarding them to someone else to handle. Most amusing piece was him being infatuated with Brad Pitt playing him on SNL.

 

[backmarkerducati]

Second one is done now for my wife and I, more than two months before our original second appointment. My buddy's employer was running a clinic today for their employees (also the last one for a couple of weeks) and at the end of the day they go through the last doses first come first served for friends and family. Also all through public health so they pulled up our info for the first dose etc.

 

[Brian P]

I don’t think you’re grasping the scope of how this man manipulated the public for personal finance gain.

You making the claim ... up to you to prove it. Bat-****-crazy right-wing conspiracy-theorist sources not allowed. Facts only.

In any case ... in case you haven't noticed, this virus has also affected the rest of the world, most of which doesn't give two hoots about who Dr Fauci is. The stuff that the American public was told to do by Dr Fauci, was more or less consistent with the stuff that people in the rest of the world were told to do by their own respective health authorities ... because they were all dealing with the same information, including the bits early on that were proven wrong and sorted out later. "Wear masks. Social-distance. Be outside, don't be inside. Test and contact-trace."

And how he lied about not financing gain of function in the wuhan lab

There's plenty of questions about how China handled this, and who was paying for what, and whether someone got sloppy, and what critical early information was covered up or lost or what-not.

But whatever the case, the virus got out into the human population, and once it got out, that doesn't change what the public - the world over, not just in the USA - needs to do: "Wear masks. Social-distance. Be outside, don't be inside. Test and contact-trace."

 

[ToSlow]

There's plenty of questions about how China handled this, and who was paying for what, and whether someone got sloppy, and what critical early information was covered up or lost or what-not.

But whatever the case, the virus got out into the human population, and once it got out, that doesn't change what the public - the world over, not just in the USA - needs to do: "Wear masks. Social-distance. Be outside, don't be inside. Test and contact-trace."

So you're saying that no one should be held accountable for this? It's been well documented that your lord and saviour fauci was involved. Also he flipped flopped like a fish on a hot dock. Don't wear masks, Ok to gather, And so on.

Don't know why leftwing bat **** crazy people choose to ignore this. Anyway the truth is coming out bit by bit.

 

[Brian P]

Fingerpointing doesn't make a problem go away. Cite one of your "well documented" sources.

 

[ToSlow]

Fingerpointing doesn't make a problem go away. Cite one of your "well documented" sources.

That is my point, Its not gong away. And we can wait to see when the full truth is exposed. I'm not going to keep posting about this because you don't believe it, why waste my time and ill leave it at that.

You might want to do a little more searching. Other than your typical leftwing news reports

Time will be tell.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

It's been well documented that your lord and saviour fauci was involved.

Cite your sources.

That is my point, Its not gong away. And we can wait to see when the full truth is exposed. I'm not going to keep posting about this because you don't believe it, why waste my time and ill leave it at that.

Nice backpedaling. Saves having to cite your sources (and be ridiculed for it being an OANN type throw-it-at-the-wall-and-see-who-bites site)

 

[ToSlow]

Cite your sources.




Nice backpedaling. Saves having to cite your sources (and be ridiculed for it being an OANN type throw-it-at-the-wall-and-see-who-bites site)

Really, is that all you got. I’ve never really seen you add anything of any value to none of these threads. You pop in and use a sarcastic remark and then leave.

Please post something that is sensible. I really don’t want to get another thread locked.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Please post something that is sensible.

Please post something that is credible.

 

[Dimitri]

You might want to do a little more searching. Other than your typical leftwing news reports

The NIH provides about $32 billion annually to fund medical projects, of which $200 million in grants every year to foreign labs and universities.

The $600,000 over a six year program that went to bat coronavirus research at the WIV is but a rounding error.

Even if former CDC Director Robert Redfield is right and WIV is responsible for COVID, the NIH money isn't enough to fund a gain of function project on a virus. It barely pays a single intern.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

I really don’t want to get another thread locked.

Then post something that is credible.

 

[ToSlow]

Then post something that is credible.

Keep trying, you’re almost there