The Reasonably Priced Used Motorcycles for Sale Thread
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Relax
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But there's a 2018 800cc version...
2018 Ducati Scrambler Icon Silver Ice | GP Bikes
2018 Ducati Scrambler Icon Silver Ice The Scrambler Icon is the starting point from which to express yourself. It is characterised by its comfortable riding position and steel teardrop tank with interchangeable aluminium side panels. The 790 mm seat height ensures comfort for both the rider and...www.gpbikespowersports.com
That one's $500 more than yours.
Pro's:
3500 kms less mileage
SC Project exhaust is subjective (assuming authentic)
Warranty (assuming 3 mo/3000 kms)
Con's:
3500 km's until Desmo service due (minimum $1000)
Aftermarket exhaust if original isn't included, especially if obnoxiously loud
1 yr older
Fugly grips
No Mustang seat
No heated grips
No windshield
No Power Commander
No gear/fuel indicator
A later year is always worth a little more to me in case of manufacturing improvements. I say your price is more than fine, and you can always negotiate lower by excluding some of the extras.
Already been decided.
A vstrom. What else?
Dirty Frank
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Damn my guess was a KLR.
That will be once he is done with the VStrom.
The good thing is that the VStrom will be easier to sell than the Scrambler.
Dirty Frank
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Ouch.
People like me who aren't on FB will never see it.
I’ll be posting on Kijiji also tomorrow.
Nothing personal.
It's a hard bike to sell because it's a specific bike. Someone HAS to be wanting that type of bike. The market for it is small.
What kind of fine is he though? Fine by retail selling pricing, or fine by private selling pricing?
If you're fine by retail pricing, but you're selling privately, you're probably too high for private selling. Some career potato peeler can show up to GP to look at the 58,258 bikes crammed into their showroom, and finance that one for $10/day. Us mere mortals can't offer that.
@mimico_polak I have no idea what the market is or isn't for your bike, or what you're priced at, it's mostly just a general comment/question for Relax.
Sorry man. Strong disagree.
You're knowledgeable. You see through the ********. You probably know exactly what you do and don't want. You don't need someone else to make you feel good about your purchase because you know enough to know when you are or aren't getting a deal that's right for you. You've probably honed that over years, or decades. And those are all good things.
But you're one person, just like me, and you and I, we sound nothing like the average motorcycle buyer.
Average motorcycle buyer is a lot less confident, is still just getting their feet wet. It's either their first or second bike (or maybe their first bike back after a long time). He's watched a few youtube videos, he's humming, he's haw'ing, he's still trying to assure himself that buying any motorcycle is a good choice, let alone your particular motorcycle. He needs help to feel good about making this purchase. It's not a grudge purchase people have to do, it's a passion purchase people want to do, they just need a little help.
The majority of buyers are going to send the link to the ads to their friends and ask what they think. They're going to send your link to some girl they're trying to impress and say "I'm going to look at this motorcycle later", and if the girl reacts positively because your pics are great, the bike may as well already be sold.
Big dramatic pictures go a long way. I like to go somewhere where there's nothing too close behind my motorcycles to really separate the bike from the background.
Lots of scenery. Scenery is your friend. It leaves room for people's imagination to put themselves on your bike in that scene.
I didn't even own this bike, I took this pic on a test ride, but Studio Cycle had my picture on their home page for like a year after that:
You still need your basic pics that show the essential components and what kind of shape they're in... but if your pics tell a certain story, or set a mood, that goes a really long way.
@mimico_polak if you're ever around Dufferin and Eglinton on your scrambler and want some pics taken hit me up.
Relax
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Fine by comparative pricing for someone looking specifically for that bike. Between those 2 listings, as a buyer I'd be making appointments to see both, but expecting to buy @mimico_polak's for the newer year and more stuff I can either sell to make back some cash, or negotiate off. Someone who wants financing isn't going to buy private regardless of price, and if I were selling it, I'm not catering to somone who can barely afford it. I'm looking for someone who knows the value and is willing to pay for it. But maybe I just model most buyers after myself. Yes, I know others are out there, but they're the time wasters.
I agree with Adri.
What he's talking about isn't a little thing. The background in his first 2 pictures frame the bikes well and put them in a nice setting and it leads your eye to the bikes. The 3rd one focusses your eye on the bike immediately.
When I looked at MP's ad I noted that the front wheel was cocked. I thought it looked awkward and detracted from the aesthetic of the bike.
If it were me selling (and soon it will be) I'd have pictures showing both sides of the bike straight on, angled pics of front and rear and a separate picture of any accessories or parts going with it like the bags. I think it came with a ton of stuff when he bought it and I'd plunk that into the pic. I wouldn't take the shield off as it looks OK to me.
I'd also note that the major service has just been completed, so the lucky buyer has thousands of care free km of enjoyment ahead.
Hopefully someone will bite soon. It's a nice bike and is well suited to plenty of riders as well as old guys who don't want an awkward heavyweight cruiser or towering adventure bike.
Thanks all for the suggestions! I'll see if I can clean it up tonight / tomorrow.
I like the photo ideas thanks @adri Unfortunately it'll be difficult to stand the bike upright as there's no center stand so...will need to be in the wheel chock and I have no way to transport it to fun and exciting locations.
@adri I hope the bike is sold before it warms up enough for me to ride it to your area for photos but if it doesn't...will make for a good trip and be good to meet another GTAMer.
I like the photo ideas thanks @adri Unfortunately it'll be difficult to stand the bike upright as there's no center stand so...will need to be in the wheel chock and I have no way to transport it to fun and exciting locations.
@adri I hope the bike is sold before it warms up enough for me to ride it to your area for photos but if it doesn't...will make for a good trip and be good to meet another GTAMer.
I just found your ad. Here's my unsolicited $0.02.
1) No center stand needed, I think joel just means that the front tire is turned sideways in your ad, as opposed to pointed straight ahead, and in some of your shots don't look good because of that.
2) For me your first pic on facebook is the pic of the cluster, I would change that too. If the app won't let you change the order manually, I would just delete that pic entirely.
3) If you have pics of the bike before you put all of the stuff on it, put one or two before pics up to. People may not want your mods. Make it easy for them to imagine the bike however they want it.
4) Put some dollar values in your ads. You mentioned the desmo service and some high end mods you did. Attach a dollar mount to each one so you're helping people understand the value your bike brings.
5) Always remember that pictures in your ad aren't to show your motorcycle. Pictures in your ad are to sell your motorcycle. They're like a woman's dating profile pics: They might not tell you a damn thing about her, but if they look good, you'll want her.
6) You don't need to ride far to find a good background. Odds are you live within 10 minutes of: a park with lots of trees, a rich person's nice house, a particularly interesting looking local business, an empty hydro field, and/or some building with some neat architecture. Any of those can be a great background.
1) No center stand needed, I think joel just means that the front tire is turned sideways in your ad, as opposed to pointed straight ahead, and in some of your shots don't look good because of that.
2) For me your first pic on facebook is the pic of the cluster, I would change that too. If the app won't let you change the order manually, I would just delete that pic entirely.
3) If you have pics of the bike before you put all of the stuff on it, put one or two before pics up to. People may not want your mods. Make it easy for them to imagine the bike however they want it.
4) Put some dollar values in your ads. You mentioned the desmo service and some high end mods you did. Attach a dollar mount to each one so you're helping people understand the value your bike brings.
5) Always remember that pictures in your ad aren't to show your motorcycle. Pictures in your ad are to sell your motorcycle. They're like a woman's dating profile pics: They might not tell you a damn thing about her, but if they look good, you'll want her.
6) You don't need to ride far to find a good background. Odds are you live within 10 minutes of: a park with lots of trees, a rich person's nice house, a particularly interesting looking local business, an empty hydro field, and/or some building with some neat architecture. Any of those can be a great background.
matt365
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Maybe I see things differently. I don't care if you took a picture of your bike infront of some rich guys house, or a nice building. I want detailed pictures of damage, scratches, mileage, wear items (tires, chain, sprockets, pads).
If I'm interested in your bike, I've been researching that model for a while.
I'd rather these pics are infront of his house. I'd trust he's not a scammer. I've bought bikes out of parking lots before... sketchy... why don't you want me to know where you live??? If we've been corresponding for a bit, or talked on the phone, you'd know I'm not a sketchy time wasting idiot.
Just sayin'. A serious informed buyer doesn't need all the "fluff".
I'd know before hand what the market value was, common issues with that model; I'd be coming with a truck, cash, and a checklist of common questions.
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Priller
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Further to this, I've judged bikes based on the state of the seller's garage if those are where the pics were taken. If I see a spotless garage that's indistinguishable from a MotoGP box, that's major bonus points. If I see a bit of a jumble, but signs of good work and good tools, that's decent bonus points. If I see a garage full of junk with a dusty bike wedged into it, major negative points.
I want an anal retentive detail-obsessor who ticks the boxes in the service schedule in the manual and knows torque values by heart. If the bike comes with a stack of spares, even better...
Same here. And like I said to oioioi, we're the minority.
That's why we're the ones on motorcycle forums and facebook groups, and 90% of motorcyclists in the GTA aren't.
At the end of the day, I want to be able to sell my motorcycle to masses, not to the 1% or 10% that know better. It's not about what we want to see. We on this forum don't reflect the majority of buyers out there. It's about what they want to see.
I think it also matters WHAT bike you're selling and WHO you're selling it to.
People on this forum are interested in specific types of MC. Whether it's off road, dual sport, adventure etc. we as a group don't need to be sold on a particular genre/model because we're looking for it. We may be shopping around within a group of models/manufacturers but essentially we know what we're looking for.
MP is selling a standard style bike that could appeal to a broad cross section of active riders, both enthusiasts like people here and casual riders. Pretty and descriptive pics are more likely to grab attention particularly as someone is scrolling randomly through FB or kijiji.
All MP needs is someone to notice his ad and be smitten with a picture. Smitten enough to say, "I think I want that!"
