MarcosSantiago
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Could I become a Conservative candidate??
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Could I become a Conservative candidate??
As long as you have the cash to run
Election must be in a month or so. The local media is starting to go all out against the conservatives.
Stupid thing is that, it gets me digging into the rest of the story, which often turns out to be far different.
Fortunately, we don't have cable, and only a weekly paper, to read what someone else's opinion of the news is.
Stupid thing is that, it gets me digging into the rest of the story, which often turns out to be far different.
Fortunately, we don't have cable, and only a weekly paper, to read what someone else's opinion of the news is.
Snobike Mike
Banned
Media across the country is decidedly libtard progressive in bias.
Glad to see you're one of the few that actually does some digging.
Might ask all candidates to put signs on my lawn.
At least then my neighbors will potentially know the names.
I'd rather have people vote against me, than to not vote.
Not voting is just another way of undermining the process, to no good effect.
If all politicians are as bad as claimed then none of them will step aside,
simply because "None of the above", beat them in the polls.
At least then my neighbors will potentially know the names.
I'd rather have people vote against me, than to not vote.
Not voting is just another way of undermining the process, to no good effect.
If all politicians are as bad as claimed then none of them will step aside,
simply because "None of the above", beat them in the polls.
Also there is something about a piss test..
Roomie
Banned
If none of the above was an option and received the majority vote then every idiot running should have to gtfo and we have a redo with new people. At the end of the day they're all crooks anyways and we're going to get screwed one way or another.
I detect some hyperbole there because obviously there are some good ones, who aren't trying to screw us.
In fact I believe there are virtually no bad ones, there are just very many who have the wrong ideas about how to help but genuinely believe their efforts are on the right track. That's very different from being a crook, and berating them all like that in sweeping generalizations tends to encourage voter apathy.
cbcanada
Banned
Somewhere over the rainbow,
Blue birds fly..
In a land that I dream of,
Once in a lullaby......
"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
Make sure that you do a little digging into those Conservative claims, too. Don't let personal bias get in the way of truth
eljay
Well-known member
Nope. Money money money.
If they were good people, their name would not be on the ballot.
They want to get elected because they wan to get their fingers in the pot.
If this were not true, then every one of them would be madly campaigning to:
1. Cancel pensions for elected officials
2. Cut taxes for anyone and everyone (why not? they won't get any of it) and additionally cut waste like crazy (what do they care, there's no $ involved right?).
3. Do the job for nothing, etc etc.
It's all about money. Almost none of them ever have had real jobs, almost all have useless degrees with cheap law schools tacked on (Harper is the first PM to not be a lawyer fwiw, but he's still never had a real job). All to a fault rely on cronyism and using other peoples money to get by and live large.
All will deny all of this and vanishingly few will give up on the money. They are crooks because they are on the ballot. Wanting to be elected is admitting you want steal from people.
Your challenge: name a good one. I haven't seen one in more than 20 years.
It's kinda like the good cop bad cop argument. There must be some good cops, but you sure don't hear much from them.
There must be SOME good politicians, but none of them are pointing fingers and naming and shaming the crooks, which from what I can see is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I'll be voting for someone that has never been elected before and has had some real job ever. No one from the 4 major parties qualifies for that in Oshawa.
If they were good people, their name would not be on the ballot.
They want to get elected because they wan to get their fingers in the pot.
If this were not true, then every one of them would be madly campaigning to:
1. Cancel pensions for elected officials
2. Cut taxes for anyone and everyone (why not? they won't get any of it) and additionally cut waste like crazy (what do they care, there's no $ involved right?).
3. Do the job for nothing, etc etc.
It's all about money. Almost none of them ever have had real jobs, almost all have useless degrees with cheap law schools tacked on (Harper is the first PM to not be a lawyer fwiw, but he's still never had a real job). All to a fault rely on cronyism and using other peoples money to get by and live large.
All will deny all of this and vanishingly few will give up on the money. They are crooks because they are on the ballot. Wanting to be elected is admitting you want steal from people.
Your challenge: name a good one. I haven't seen one in more than 20 years.
It's kinda like the good cop bad cop argument. There must be some good cops, but you sure don't hear much from them.
There must be SOME good politicians, but none of them are pointing fingers and naming and shaming the crooks, which from what I can see is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I'll be voting for someone that has never been elected before and has had some real job ever. No one from the 4 major parties qualifies for that in Oshawa.
So your theory is that you'll get only good people to run for office if they don't get paid for it? And they would live on what? Seems to me that would result in an even worse situation than what we have right now.
Good, capable people cost money. The problem is that we reward people for malfeasance. We re-elect them. We even give them majorities, when they've proved untrustworthy. They aren't the problem; we are.
Good, capable people cost money. The problem is that we reward people for malfeasance. We re-elect them. We even give them majorities, when they've proved untrustworthy. They aren't the problem; we are.
eljay
Well-known member
Sorry I didn't know politician was a valid career choice. Do they want to "serve" or not?
If they're so damn passionate about it they can do it for free.
Oh, I forgot to mention my counterweight to corruption: execution by referendum for elected officials only. If a simple majority doesn't like them anymore they get the death penalty post haste. That should make them step carefully.
I know... it's looney tunes. But frankly there's insufficient fear factor built in to the position and there need to be. Politicians should be terrified of the people they imagine that they rule. It makes the world a better place.
I'll just vote for someone who has never had the job before and continue ad nausea. Doin' my bit. I'll never re-elect anyone ever. I'm not part of "we".
If they're so damn passionate about it they can do it for free.
Oh, I forgot to mention my counterweight to corruption: execution by referendum for elected officials only. If a simple majority doesn't like them anymore they get the death penalty post haste. That should make them step carefully.
I know... it's looney tunes. But frankly there's insufficient fear factor built in to the position and there need to be. Politicians should be terrified of the people they imagine that they rule. It makes the world a better place.
I'll just vote for someone who has never had the job before and continue ad nausea. Doin' my bit. I'll never re-elect anyone ever. I'm not part of "we".
Where do you get this stuff from? It's gold.
Had someone in our office run. Wasn't President of the company, but had a nice cushy job,
and depending on how much advantage he took of the system, it would have been a large pay cut.
eljay
Well-known member
What do you do for a living? Are you passionate about it? Why, then, do you accept pay for it? You should clearly do it for free!
I thought of running for city council. Knew a few people and might have gotten in, too. Then I saw the salary.
defeater905
Well-known member
To the guy who said he believes all politicians have good intentions. That's messed up...optimistic to a fault. These guy really have nothing to fear anymore, which is why corruption is so rampant.
Has anyone tried out the CBC app Vote Compass @ votecompass.com ?? I did the survey hoping it would help me figure out my vote, but it actually just re-enforced how NONE of the political parties align with my views. I'm sure there are lots of people in the same boat these days. In the graph of left vs right & progressive v conservative (I'm not 100% sure that's how the X & Y graph is laid out) I'm almost directly in the middle... x = 0 y = 0 . haha boo.
Has anyone tried out the CBC app Vote Compass @ votecompass.com ?? I did the survey hoping it would help me figure out my vote, but it actually just re-enforced how NONE of the political parties align with my views. I'm sure there are lots of people in the same boat these days. In the graph of left vs right & progressive v conservative (I'm not 100% sure that's how the X & Y graph is laid out) I'm almost directly in the middle... x = 0 y = 0 . haha boo.
Kri$han
Well-known member
WOW this thread is long - but haven't you guys figured out that it doesn't matter who we vote for, anyway?
Sure, there are a few policies and big media items (sex-ed curriculum LOL) that might get more attention, or increased priority if one party is elected over another, but generally speaking, for REALLY important issues; all leaders/parties would do the same overall thing(s).
Do you think if the Liberals had a majority government that the PANAM infrastructure situation would have been done differently? Yes? No? is there any way to REALLY know?
This is also why all politicians "lie": they tell you whatever they think you wanna hear in order to get elected, but once they're in-office they are faced with the same restrictions, budgets and rules that the last people were faced with; and there's usually only 1 sensical way to solve each problem based on the given constraints.
This election, every one before it, and every one after it is a complete farce.
Sure, there are a few policies and big media items (sex-ed curriculum LOL) that might get more attention, or increased priority if one party is elected over another, but generally speaking, for REALLY important issues; all leaders/parties would do the same overall thing(s).
Do you think if the Liberals had a majority government that the PANAM infrastructure situation would have been done differently? Yes? No? is there any way to REALLY know?
This is also why all politicians "lie": they tell you whatever they think you wanna hear in order to get elected, but once they're in-office they are faced with the same restrictions, budgets and rules that the last people were faced with; and there's usually only 1 sensical way to solve each problem based on the given constraints.
This election, every one before it, and every one after it is a complete farce.
You need to live in a place where it is a farce, or illegal, for a few years. Then you wouldn't be so apathetic.
