Unfortunately that's bullcrap.....I work in education and there's little investment at all. One of the current problems in education is "pay for grade" private schools too.....funny that. The students I teach are no different whether they came from a private school or state funded. Try again.
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Unfortunately that's bullcrap.....I work in education and there's little investment at all. One of the current problems in education is "pay for grade" private schools too.....funny that. The students I teach are no different whether they came from a private school or state funded. Try again.
I had a feeling this was so. Now that you mentioned it, you just reaffirmed it.
My kids would definitely go to private school. I don't want them polluting my child's brain with all that crap.
I can assure you that your return on investment will not be good. I honestly see no difference in my students abilities whether they come from state or private schools. My current sample size is around 10,000 students in case you think I'm being selective. The issue is that in Canada the state and private systems are pretty much doing the same thing (not saying it's good, as I think it could be a lot better, but it's consistent). The biggest advantage I see is that students who did the IB system (similar to French students....ohhh no..say it ain't so) do a fair bit better in first year, but no real advantage in 2nd year.
Motorcycle Mike
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Anyway, all this talk of left vs right, socialism vs capitalism, and it all comes back to the election we are facing.
Generally I am right-wing conservative leaning, but I am looking at this election as a chance to finally clean house of the Reform creationists that we've been stuck with for the past decade.
I no longer care about left/right or socialism/capitalism... I want the NDP to become a minority leader government and ideally Harper not even elected in his own riding so a whole whack of the current Reform/Conservatives can be kicked to the curb. How else can we get rid of the government we currently have? It is definitely time for a change, even if it is a minor pendulum swing to the left briefly so we can return to a better swing to the right in the future.
Generally I am right-wing conservative leaning, but I am looking at this election as a chance to finally clean house of the Reform creationists that we've been stuck with for the past decade.
I no longer care about left/right or socialism/capitalism... I want the NDP to become a minority leader government and ideally Harper not even elected in his own riding so a whole whack of the current Reform/Conservatives can be kicked to the curb. How else can we get rid of the government we currently have? It is definitely time for a change, even if it is a minor pendulum swing to the left briefly so we can return to a better swing to the right in the future.
I was just baiting to see if you were a unionized teacher. Yup.
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You not only learn about books in school but different life perspectives. I certainly don't want my kids to be brainwashed with socialist crap
It sounds like you think that an election is a popularity contest.
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private ed vs. public ed is not a fair fight.
Some things to consider
Very expensive high end schools (Appleby college) , you have a leg up on university placements. Its a special club
Lots of kids that are problem kids, but come from parents with cash get sent to private when the public kicks them out.
ALWAYS put your kids in French immersion, they will be swimming with the faster fishes, not the kids that did not qualify
Private schools can employ uncertified teachers, this could be good or bad
Montessori "open learning" concept works fine for kids that have self discipline, lord help an unmotivated kid
Most important if your at Appleby or UpperCanada, you will be with the young of very well off people, the networking advantage can be life long.
Now back to the election, Harpers new slant on limiting global travel from people going to terrorist countries and then having trouble returning to Canada. His govt determines which countries are a problem. Haiti ? Russia? obvious with Syria , but what about Pakistan? this one could be a deal breaker for me.
Some things to consider
Very expensive high end schools (Appleby college) , you have a leg up on university placements. Its a special club
Lots of kids that are problem kids, but come from parents with cash get sent to private when the public kicks them out.
ALWAYS put your kids in French immersion, they will be swimming with the faster fishes, not the kids that did not qualify
Private schools can employ uncertified teachers, this could be good or bad
Montessori "open learning" concept works fine for kids that have self discipline, lord help an unmotivated kid
Most important if your at Appleby or UpperCanada, you will be with the young of very well off people, the networking advantage can be life long.
Now back to the election, Harpers new slant on limiting global travel from people going to terrorist countries and then having trouble returning to Canada. His govt determines which countries are a problem. Haiti ? Russia? obvious with Syria , but what about Pakistan? this one could be a deal breaker for me.
Agreed!
As for restricted travel: another freedom being taken away by "our" government. Surely that must make the conservative libertarians here uncomfortable, at least if their view is consistent.
As for education, it's the private system that kicks out students that aren't compliant, not the public system. And Montessori students that come into the public system at the primary level are consistently below average in basic skills, even though they were getting glowing grades there. This is based on my experience.
I went to UCC and even boarded from grade 3 to 5. I will tell you private school in my mind is a total waste of money unless your kid happens to make connections they can use later in life which happens but not always. Otherwise it's a massive cost for little to no return. If your goal is to have your child successful and or financially secure then put that money away every year and one day help them buy a house when they are starting out in the work world. They will be miles ahead financially of all their peers. The exception is if you have enough money you can do both then send them to private school and buy them the house.
Can't let that happen. Only bow down to the Queen of England.
MarcosSantiago
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A lot of people are thinking like that, this is the time for a purge, and wake up call for all.
Unionised professor....union rep actually. Also if you'd seen what's happening to higher ed. you'd understand why unions are necessary. I actually wish they weren't necessary but there you go. So now your points have been picked apart do you have any more tired clichés to add about socialist leaning policies? Just to head you off before the next diatribe....collective farms are not what we're talking about.
I think they only waterboard students in early grades...the brainwashing to accept Marxist dogma occurs just before they leave to go to university.
On another note...how many moons can you see from your planet?
My arguments have not been ripped apart, on the contrary they have been affirmed -- your every statement contradicts itself.
It is very wrong that a self-professed political ideologue finds employment in our education system. Luckily, your veneer is thin, and you are easily read by any thinking person.
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You see the same number of moons too do you?
Couldn't agree more - well said.
Actually I feel the same way. The socialism/capitalism thing was just to correct a few of the more hysterical points people consistently bring up. I think a clearing of the decks is in order...it's a shame that the political process we have often brings up the wrong kind of people that should be in office.
A bit of a tangent, but relating to the NDP's dependence on the French:
The NDP was more-or-less elected in the last election by Québec, and in Québec the federal election is held as far less important then their Provincial one. The NDP became the official opposition party really as a joke -- Québec just wanted to collectively "poke a needle in the eye" of the rest of Canada, they thought Layton (the previous leader) looked harmless enough -- and voilà. Québec is also the most socialist province in Canada, and you help pay for their programs.
A large number of the NDP candidates in Québec were scrounged-up in a hurry, because at that time parties received a subsidy for every vote they received, so the NDP figured that it was good for their party income to run someone, anyone, in every riding. Bizarrely, many of these stand-in candidates actually identified themselves as separatist (you know, wanting Québec to leave Canada).
If you remember, a number of winning NDP candidates had never stepped foot in the ridings in which they were elected, the people who voted for them had no flipping idea who they were, and one was actually away on holiday in Las Vegas, or somewhere, and had to be tracked down to be told they were elected.
To the young people first paying attention to politics, don't be fooled into thinking that the NDP is a serious party, on the footings of the Liberals or Conservatives. It has what standing it does because of a joke played by Quebec on the the rest of Canada.
The NDP is a sneaky party, by and for unions, and if you read this thread you will see how the union types hide their true interest in voting (and tricking you into voting) for these socialists.
I believe Mulcair has said that he would renounce his French citizenship IF ELECTED PM - how very nice if him.
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