Trials
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Just show us your National gold.
The CMA and the FIM
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Trials
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I don't ride vet class and I didn't win them for anybody else, so **** ***
TK4
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Grow up. I have WERA National Championship trophies, and I earned them travelling all over the U.S. beating more than 25 of my buddies.
TK4
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I never made any personal attacks on you, so you hijacked the thread and turned it into something unintended and unrelated.
Let's get back to the topic at hand, shall we ? Maybe listen to the podcast and reread the original press release ? Just an idea...
Moderator public warning: Lose the "me and my discipline only" attitude.
Perhaps the CMA does work for you. Looking at their website, if you click on "events", Trials is the only one that comes up.
I'm telling you, the CMA doesn't work for anyone else. It appears that they actually have a roadracing rulebook. That's nice. It doesn't apply to anyone. (I'm looking at the roadracing section now. It's a joke.)
If you really want to be constructive, and if you have some sort of "in" with this organisation that no one else including people who have operated national-level roadracing series in this country for decades ... Find out what the issue is, and do something about it.
The MCC isn't exactly a paragon of transparency, either, but at least they're involved with other disciplines besides trials.
Your attitude has been condescending, disrespectful, and frustrating to deal with. Stop it. Respect others and what they do.
Trials
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By all means, feel free to go back to your flame the CMA thread, as you feel it is helping the sport so immensely.
TK4
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Sigh, at the risk of repeating myself did you bother to reread the press release or listen to the podcast ?
There are some legitimate arguments being made there that the CMA has, mostly by neglect, done little or nothing to advance the sport of motorcycling in ALL its facets for at least the last 40 years.
What Brian P said - the MCC in its current form isn't the entire answer. By not allowing the rank and file to have a say their agenda is not transparently clear.
One of the things I've bugged them about for years is a province-by-province inquiry into motorcycle insurance costs - do they truly reflect payouts or is it simply a cash grab ? I also bugged the CMA and the MMIC, my response ? Crickets.
There are many issues to be dealt with, not just closed course competition-only events, but without FIM affiliation they lack the credibility when dealing with the powers that be.
Its way past time to look at the bigger picture - let's try to help the MCC get on with it if the CMA can't or won't.
End of sermon, as you were...
From the CMA website:
“For six decades, the CMA has continuously provided the forum from which numerous Canadian motorcycle competitors developed and honed their skills in virtually every competitive discipline. It is in this area where the CMA shines and stands alone!”
“For six decades, the CMA has continuously provided the forum from which numerous Canadian motorcycle competitors developed and honed their skills in virtually every competitive discipline. It is in this area where the CMA shines and stands alone!”
TK4
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Get off my lawn !
The other folks that are unsung heroes in Canadian Motor Sports are the likes of RACE, VRRA, SOAR, OCMC, etc.
I just happened to pick those 4 as I have raced with them but there are a number of groups throughout the country that are comprised mainly of volunteers that I believe get very little or no support from the CMA. Not forgetting CSBK who do a great job with the National Series as well.
If it were not for these folks, I think motorcycle racing in Canada would have disappeared a long time ago.
Its also very sad when young Canadians with real talent have to go to Mexico to get a break.
I just happened to pick those 4 as I have raced with them but there are a number of groups throughout the country that are comprised mainly of volunteers that I believe get very little or no support from the CMA. Not forgetting CSBK who do a great job with the National Series as well.
If it were not for these folks, I think motorcycle racing in Canada would have disappeared a long time ago.
Its also very sad when young Canadians with real talent have to go to Mexico to get a break.
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Trials
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Look at the dates.Again from the CMA website:
CMA Archives | CMA
www.motorcyclingcanada.ca
Brian Wojnarowski
Ryon Bell
John Kehoe
Marcel Fournier
Blair Sharpless
Yvon Duhamel a whole bunch of times,
Michel Mercier
Ross Pederson
Jake Stapleton
Jordan Szoke
Maxime Gobeil
Will Duggan
Ron Commo <- from USA
Tom Farr
Daniel Johnson
Sean Bird
Trevor Howarth
Stephen Fracy
John DeGruchy
Bill Sparks
thanks for the read.
Priller
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I'm pretty sure you can add WMRC to that list, the club that runs road racing in Vancouver out of Mission Raceway. They do their own track days and track schools on top of organizing events...
Hmmm.
Dirt track number 1 plate awards stop in 2015. Speedway stops in 2015. Roadracing stops in 1995 (!) and that's after a gap from 1990-1993. Mini road racing appears to continue (we will grant them 2020 due to other circumstances) - although three riders having taken multiple number 1 plates over a period of only 9 years makes me question how many riders are actually involved. Motocross stops in 1999. Enduro stops in 2009. Cross-country (whatever that is) stops in 2002. Hare scrambles / cross country appears to continue. Trials is current. Ice racing is current. There are several others that stop varying degrees of a long time ago.
Do you see the pattern of the CMA slowly giving up? Or, perhaps more accurately, other disciplines slowly giving up on the CMA.
There's more to motorcycling than just trials, hare scrambles, and ice racing. It's not like dirt track, speedway, roadracing, and motocross haven't continued. They're just continuing without being associated with the CMA/FIM.
Why?
Dirt track number 1 plate awards stop in 2015. Speedway stops in 2015. Roadracing stops in 1995 (!) and that's after a gap from 1990-1993. Mini road racing appears to continue (we will grant them 2020 due to other circumstances) - although three riders having taken multiple number 1 plates over a period of only 9 years makes me question how many riders are actually involved. Motocross stops in 1999. Enduro stops in 2009. Cross-country (whatever that is) stops in 2002. Hare scrambles / cross country appears to continue. Trials is current. Ice racing is current. There are several others that stop varying degrees of a long time ago.
Do you see the pattern of the CMA slowly giving up? Or, perhaps more accurately, other disciplines slowly giving up on the CMA.
There's more to motorcycling than just trials, hare scrambles, and ice racing. It's not like dirt track, speedway, roadracing, and motocross haven't continued. They're just continuing without being associated with the CMA/FIM.
Why?
bigpoppa
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