The Bad Drivers of Ontario Thread

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GreyGhost said:
Another pedestrian killed in Toronto by a turning dump truck. Eyeball stats say dump trucks make up a freakishly high percentage of pedestrian deaths.

toronto.citynews.ca

Man dies after being hit by dump truck in northwest Toronto

Emergency crews responded to the scene at Dufferin Street and Eglinton Avenue West just after 10:30 a.m. on Monday.
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Bonus points to the truck driver for killing the pedestrian in the process of turning left at an intersection where left turns are prohibited.
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Kudos to police. I expected an improper turn ticket. They handed out a dangerous driving ticket. Driver is from Brampton.

www.cp24.com

Driver charged in west-end crash that left 1 pedestrian dead

A 31-year-old man is facing charges in connection with a collision in the city’s west end last month that left one pedestrian dead.
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GreyGhost said:
Eyeball stats say dump trucks make up a freakishly high percentage of pedestrian deaths.
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They're sort of ok in a straight line (once you factor out the total disregard of routine maintenance). It's when they have to turn that everything falls off a cliff.

GreyGhost said:
Kudos to police. I expected an improper turn ticket. They handed out a dangerous driving ticket. Driver is from Brampton.
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I did not see that coming.
 
GreyGhost said:
Kudos to police. I expected an improper turn ticket. They handed out a dangerous driving ticket. Driver is from Brampton.

www.cp24.com

Driver charged in west-end crash that left 1 pedestrian dead

A 31-year-old man is facing charges in connection with a collision in the city’s west end last month that left one pedestrian dead.
www.cp24.com www.cp24.com
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GreyGhost said:
a news release issued Thursday, police said the driver involved in the incident was charged earlier this week with dangerous operation of a conveyance causing death. He has been identified by investigators as 31-year-old Rohit Sharma
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GreyGhost said:
Kudos to police. I expected an improper turn ticket. They handed out a dangerous driving ticket. Driver is from Brampton.

www.cp24.com

Driver charged in west-end crash that left 1 pedestrian dead

A 31-year-old man is facing charges in connection with a collision in the city’s west end last month that left one pedestrian dead.
www.cp24.com www.cp24.com
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From street view there seems to signs indicating No Left Turns. Slow learner.

With respect to my view on HTA 172, if the driver isn't DUI, his license should have been suspended one hour after the dangerous driving charge, giving him that time to find an appropriate place to park the vehicle. A 24 hour a day review court could extend the driving licence suspension or cancel it.

If you think this sounds stupid or troublesome think about the Liberal catch and release program. A debatable traffic charge is treated more harshly than a criminal offense.
 
nobbie48 said:
From street view there seems to signs indicating No Left Turns. Slow learner.

With respect to my view on HTA 172, if the driver isn't DUI, his license should have been suspended one hour after the dangerous driving charge, giving him that time to find an appropriate place to park the vehicle. A 24 hour a day review court could extend the driving licence suspension or cancel it.

If you think this sounds stupid or troublesome think about the Liberal catch and release program. A debatable traffic charge is treated more harshly than a criminal offense.
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I still maintain that punishment should come after conviction. Too many dodgy charges laid to bypass oversight. After conviction for dangerous causing death, any license repercussions short of cancelling and having to start again at the beginning after your timeout are appallingly weak. In court, this will probably get plead out as careless, fine, 1 year driving prohibition or similar.
 
GreyGhost said:
I still maintain that punishment should come after conviction. Too many dodgy charges laid to bypass oversight. After conviction for dangerous causing death, any license repercussions short of cancelling and having to start again at the beginning after your timeout are appallingly weak. In court, this will probably get plead out as careless, fine, 1 year driving prohibition or similar.
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Impound and suspend is wrong unless full compensation is automatic if found not guilty. If the offense is serious enough to warrant instant roadside punishment there should be an instant preliminary trial availability.
 
GreyGhost said:
After conviction for dangerous causing death, any license repercussions short of cancelling and having to purchase another license again at the beginning
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FTFY
 
18 yo from Brampton crashed into an Orangeville house on Christmas eve and collected more than a handful of tickets. Loser. I hope they garnish his income for the rest of his life to pay to fix the house.

barrie.ctvnews.ca

Novice driver accused of being impaired with open liquor in car crashes into house on Christmas Eve

A young driver faces a slew of charges, including being a novice driver with a blood alcohol concentration above zero, following a collision with a house in Orangeville.
barrie.ctvnews.ca barrie.ctvnews.ca

The accused was charged with impaired driving, dangerous driving, mischief over $5,000, driving with liquor readily available, and disobeying or failing to stop for a stop sign, among others.
 
mimico_polak said:
Another winner....

london.ctvnews.ca

Prohibited driver steals vehicle moments after leaving courthouse, crashes into tree

A Sarnia woman is facing a slew of criminal charges after she allegedly stole a vehicle after attending court and proceeded to crash into a tree while fleeing from police.
london.ctvnews.ca london.ctvnews.ca
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an unattended laptop and keys to a vehicle... in the courthouse
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nobbie48 said:
Indoor parking for a Tesla. Cause unknown at the moment. Fault nav system, driver error or ???

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I would lean towards driver error or medical. I think autopilot should be sent back to closed course testing but I haven't heard of it going offroading into houses.
 
Scuba Steve said:
How is this possible with auto braking etc should it not stop long before it hits the house.

Sent from the future
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No radars on teslas, optical image processing only. It crashed into a patio door. Maybe it couldn't see it.

Given that the human is stuck with the liability and responsible for ultimate control of the vehicle, auto anything should defer to the human if the human insists.
 
GreyGhost said:
No radars on teslas, optical image processing only. It crashed into a patio door. Maybe it couldn't see it.

Given that the human is stuck with the liability and responsible for ultimate control of the vehicle, auto anything should defer to the human if the human insists.
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Birds hit our windows occasionally when they misinterpret reflections. Could a Tesla see a highway scene on a big screen TV and follow the road? :) I do think any sensing device, human or electronic would have noticed the lawn, bushes, patio furniture.
 
GreyGhost said:
No radars on teslas, optical image processing only. It crashed into a patio door. Maybe it couldn't see it.

Given that the human is stuck with the liability and responsible for ultimate control of the vehicle, auto anything should defer to the human if the human insists.
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I recently saw video of a Tesla accelerating into the trailer that was pulled by a truck, ahead of it, on a highway. it clearly didn't recognize the trailer as a vehicle or, in fact, a solid object. How people trust this nascent tech enough to take their eyes off the road or hands off the wheel is, quite frankly, beyond my understanding.
 
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nobbie48 said:
Birds hit our windows occasionally when they misinterpret reflections. Could a Tesla see a highway scene on a big screen TV and follow the road? :) I do think any sensing device, human or electronic would have noticed the lawn, bushes, patio furniture.
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Conflicting reports but there seems to have been at least one driver that was driving very poorly on the QEW. They cut off a passenger vehicle that crashed into a fuel tanker carrying 50,000 litres. Fuel tanker jumped onto south service road and then rolled. No fire, no major injuries. Dbag ran as expected.

toronto.citynews.ca

Fail-to-remain driver sought in crash involving fuel tanker near QEW in Beamsville

OPP say the tractor-trailer, which was carrying fuel, rolled into the ditch on South Service Road on Friday morning.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca
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