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Not exactly the right thread but there is no way good driving can get you out of this mess. How many people touched this without pulling the plug?

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Confusing road sign leaves drivers in Simcoe with nowhere to turn

County says no-turn sign that left drivers stuck on side street was meant to improve road safety
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GreyGhost said:
Not exactly the right thread but there is no way good driving can get you out of this mess. How many people touched this without pulling the plug?

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Confusing road sign leaves drivers in Simcoe with nowhere to turn

County says no-turn sign that left drivers stuck on side street was meant to improve road safety
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Well you're clearly supposed to do a jump into the Timmie's parking lot, through the barrier. I'm betting that was supposed to be a simple indicator sign and not a prohibitive sign, but clearly someone needs to buy a vowel.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Well you're clearly supposed to do a jump into the Timmie's parking lot, through the barrier. I'm betting that was supposed to be a simple indicator sign and not a prohibitive sign, but clearly someone needs to buy a vowel.
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Apparently due to poor sightlines they are concerned about people making the turn. Obviously they proposed a stupid solution to that problem. Ultimate solution may be a one-way segment towards the camera if they think it is dangerous enough.
 
GreyGhost said:
Apparently due to poor sightlines they are concerned about people making the turn. Obviously they proposed a stupid solution to that problem. Ultimate solution may be a one-way segment towards the camera if they think it is dangerous enough.
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I can see it being dangerous, as Queensway tends to have high speed traffic (it's a 50, but literally no one does that speed) and is 4 lanes wide, but the solution is a 3-way stop or a stop light. A light, with a sensor on the Crescent Blvd. side, would be the most logical.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
I can see it being dangerous, as Queensway tends to have high speed traffic (it's a 50, but literally no one does that speed) and is 4 lanes wide, but the solution is a 3-way stop or a stop light. A light, with a sensor on the Crescent Blvd. side, would be the most logical.
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One-way section is a lot cheaper and inconveniences fewer people. It will be interesting to see the ultimate solution.
 
I bet that sign cost about $150,000 to install...
 
Outside of ontario but definitely deserves an honorable mention. I have heard of lots of drivers in Ontario with 3-5 suspensions but this is next level.

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Police Arrest 23-Year-Old With 65 License Suspensions

It's terrifyingly easy for bad drivers to stay on the road.
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One woman in Long Island allegedly has a lot of us beat at the tender age of only 23 years old. Suffolk County Police pulled over Janelda Camille around 2 a.m. Tuesday morning on the Sunrise Highway in Patchogue, New York for allegedly driving 95 miles per hour. That’s when police discovered Camille had 65 license suspensions on 12 separate dates, Most of these suspensions are in regards to not answering speeding tickets, thought a 2021 crash is also included in the mix. Camille is facing jail time over charges of aggravated unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle in the first degree.
 
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Camille is facing jail time over charges of aggravated unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle in the first degree.
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😆 Is there a second degree version of that charge where you drive but didn't plan on driving?
 
GreyGhost said:
Outside of ontario but definitely deserves an honorable mention. I have heard of lots of drivers in Ontario with 3-5 suspensions but this is next level.

jalopnik.com

Police Arrest 23-Year-Old With 65 License Suspensions

It's terrifyingly easy for bad drivers to stay on the road.
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One woman in Long Island allegedly has a lot of us beat at the tender age of only 23 years old. Suffolk County Police pulled over Janelda Camille around 2 a.m. Tuesday morning on the Sunrise Highway in Patchogue, New York for allegedly driving 95 miles per hour. That’s when police discovered Camille had 65 license suspensions on 12 separate dates, Most of these suspensions are in regards to not answering speeding tickets, thought a 2021 crash is also included in the mix. Camille is facing jail time over charges of aggravated unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle in the first degree.
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While the woman's behavior is deplorable one must ask what is wrong with a legal system that lets 65 suspensions accumulate without decisive action. Oh wait, rapist drug dealing cops still on the payroll here. Back to sleep.
 
Grr. Trash. It doesn't look like she got a ticket for no insurance so I guess she borrowed an insured vehicle. I would be ****** if my impaired, unlicensed friend did a fatal hit and run with my car.

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An unlicensed driver is facing several charges in connection with a hit-and-run crash that killed a woman near Albion Road and Finch Avenue West.

Tara MacMunn, 38, of Toronto, was arrested on April 27.

She has been charged with one count each of dangerous operation causing death and impaired operation causing death, and a Highway Traffic Act offence. MacMunn is also facing two counts each of dangerous operation causing bodily harm and impaired operations causing bodily harm.
 
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GreyGhost said:
Grr. Trash. It doesn't look like she got a ticket for no insurance so I guess she borrowed an insured vehicle. I would be ****** if my impaired, unlicensed friend did a fatal hit and run with my car.

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An unlicensed driver is facing several charges in connection with a hit-and-run crash that killed a woman near Albion Road and Finch Avenue West.

Tara MacMunn, 38, of Toronto, was arrested on April 27.

She has been charged with one count each of dangerous operation causing death and impaired operation causing death, and a Highway Traffic Act offence. MacMunn is also facing two counts each of dangerous operation causing bodily harm and impaired operations causing bodily harm.
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I wonder about the liabilities as I reflect on a minor version of the that event many many years ago.

I lent my M/C to my brother for a while and he wasn't respectful of the privilege. (Understatement)

When I went to get it back a few weeks later it handled like a pig. When I got it home, I realized the fork tubes were bent backwards, unequally. It crabbed down the road.

I called him to find out what happened and got a BS story about someone must have tipped it over etc. That breaks levers and mirrors. It doesn't bend fork tubes.

Several years later I found out he was letting friends with no M/C experience ride it for kicks and one rear ended a car, fortunately in the days of massive chrome bumpers.

However if the inept friend hurt or killed someone the ticket goes to the rider and the damage claim to the owner. if the insure said the M/C was illegally being used the could refuse to cover the liabilities.

Option 1: Go bankrupt paying the claim.

Option 2: Say the bike was being used without permission and charge the rider with theft. I'm not sure if that would hold in court.

My brother later became a good rider and it would have been nice to later share some rides with him. I had at one time three bikes, licensed and insured. Sadly, I couldn't trust him.

Back to the car crash, who owns the car and who picks up the tab for the death and damage?

With the Yonge Street massacre the rental company and insurer both got off not having to pay out because the vehicle was being used illegally.
 
nobbie48 said:
Back to the car crash, who owns the car and who picks up the tab for the death and damage?

With the Yonge Street massacre the rental company and insurer both got off not having to pay out because the vehicle was being used illegally.
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Theoretically, using the car during a criminal act (dui and dangerous charges laid but not yet convicted) is enough to get insurance company out of paying. Every policy I have seen has that clause. So now car owner has to sue their "friend" to replace/repair the car. Try to get that settled asap before the hurt/dead people get lawsuits going and there is no money left.
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