Is it totally weird if I noticed that someone coloured in an MCU Spiderman costume onto old-school 60s cartoon Spiderman?
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Sunday Morning Rides are Over - Cyclists win.
- Thread starter Merkid
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Is it totally weird if I noticed that someone coloured in an MCU Spiderman costume onto old-school 60s cartoon Spiderman?
Are they vegan?
Worse, vegan anti-vaxxer cross-fitters who believe loud pipes save lives.
Chameleon
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Yes, but I'm not justifying me blowing stop signs because it takes more energy.
Do I like stopping for stop signs? Not particularly. I have to down shift, come to a complete stop, get a foot down, look both ways, then continue through.
Do I still do it? Yeah. I don't want to get hit by a car. I also don't want to get a ticket.
Two observations.
1: We found the bicyclist in the thread.
2: I can handle passing you once. But pass me again at every single f’n stop sign in a residential area because somehow bicycles don’t need to pay any attention to signs or lights, and make me pass you 4 times again (been there, I sh!t nobody not) inside a 3-4 KM radius, and yeah, I’m gonna get pissy.
How about when traffic that passed you is now stopped ahead of you….you try doing the same thing. In line with the traffic. Not squishing yourself up the line of traffic between the curb and the cars all while shooting looks at all the car drivers (because we didn’t leave room? Or what?) or worse yet, just flying past us on the drivers side only to cut back over after you’ve zoomed through the intersection.
I’m going to go back through the dash cam footage on my car and see if I’ve still got the footage from this exact scenario from a few weeks ago in Whitby or not. It’s bad enough in my car, however when douchenozzles do it when I’m in my truck you’re literally taking your life in your hands.
Don't worry, after about the second time, they will pull out to occupy the whole lane (muh rights!!!!) so that you don't endanger them by passing.
not directed at you.
Imagine the irony, doing it for exercise but complaining about spending energy.
“Treat us with respect! We’re vehicles too!”
/blows through red light, fails to stay right except to pass, impedes traffic, completely ignores stop sign, passes on right, shares lane with other vehicle, nearly causes collision, repeat.
And thats you as a motorcyclist, i've lost count of those that ride through stop signs or burn red lights, same goes for cars. Speeding in residential areas, or treating lakeshore as a speedway (you should see all the people complaining about the loud pipes in Port Credit FB groups...) is another common occurrence and more of a nuisance
Blowing stop signs is a completely different thing, especially if there are other people at the intersection. To me the goal in all of this is to be predictable to other road users...and blowing through traffic light or stop signs goes against that in my mind.
Lol, thats why i still end up riding my trainer indoors once or twice a week even when it's nice. That way i workout the exact energy systems i want to inside and when i'm out riding on the bicycle, its just a for relatively relaxed jaunt
But when you think of it, the only time you'll see a cyclist fall with clipless pedals is when they come to a stop, is there a correlation
I never unclip at lights. Rarely downshift, either.
Agree. I did have a very memorable tip over where I had been out for a long ride and forgot I had the toe clips tightened up. That sucked. Try to pull your foot out and there is just no way. Car driver laughed at me (I would have too).
There's no need to unclip at lights. Might want to practice a bit with flats first till you figure it out.
Fast twitch muscles and there's no need to downshift, either.
Mad Mike
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Peace with that argument.
But that’s the unicorns and rainbows view of cycling. How do you justify the collision with a legit right turner who ends up with an insurance payout because a cyclist ran a stop sign to the right of the motorist? Or the peloton that holds back a dozen vehicles just because they can? Or the soloist who feels the bike lane is inadequate for him so he takes a full traffic lane, just because he can.
We all need to play nice, we all need to honour the rules. Motorists don’t expect an entitlement, nor should cyclists - particularly when they get access to resources that they pay no road use taxes, licences, and don’t fairly cover the cost of liability in accidents.
Mad Mike
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You don’t need to be clipped in, that’s a choice you make. If you feel the need to race, try a velodromeAnd thats you as a motorcyclist, i've lost count of those that ride through stop signs or burn red lights, same goes for cars. Speeding in residential areas, or treating lakeshore as a speedway (you should see all the people complaining about the loud pipes in Port Credit FB groups...) is another common occurrence and more of a nuisance
Blowing stop signs is a completely different thing, especially if there are other people at the intersection. To me the goal in all of this is to be predictable to other road users...and blowing through traffic light or stop signs goes against that in my mind.
Lol, thats why i still end up riding my trainer indoors once or twice a week even when it's nice. That way i workout the exact energy systems i want to inside and when i'm out riding on the bicycle, its just a for relatively relaxed jaunt
But when you think of it, the only time you'll see a cyclist fall with clipless pedals is when they come to a stop, is there a correlation
My track stand is not that good but is ok. My problem when I fell over was I tipped the bike over (tall top tube on that frame so without the tip it would bust your nuts) and was going to put my leg out and was locked into the cages so over I go.
Clipless, which is counter intuitive in its naming convention, isn't to race. Both road and MTB (and everything in between) has clipless available and provides a more efficient pedal stroke and avoids having your foot slip over when riding, which can be quite the painful experience, ask me how i know lol. I was just mentioning that jokingly as it's known that when you move to clipless, there will be at least one moment in time where you will fall, embarrassing yourself in front of other people, call it a rite of passage. But who knows, maybe those club members have PTSD over it and can't stop for the fear of looking like a fool among their peers
Velodrome is a very specific type of cycling and track bikes are also a whole other type of monster...and it's also still closed due to covid.
Also...motorists do feel entitled. Because we paid for our cars and/or motorcycles, we tend to feel entitled to drive unhindered by anything and everything that could be on the road, as it would be an obstacle. And usually i think this feeling along with the marginalization of the "cyclist" (which they're sometimes causing themselves) creates that beautiful divide.
Sadly i don't see that mentality changing anytime soon. One of the many things that could help solve that is better infrastructure but that definitely isn't happening as it's not popular and doesn't get people re-elected. So we'll keep getting bits and pieces of infrastructure here and there so politicians can pat themselves on the back and people will keep wondering why cyclists are on the road instead of being on that new 2km of bike lane that was painted on the asphalt.
Mad Mike
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I don’t think motorists feel entitled in the same way cyclists feel entitled. Motorists pay taxes to support building and maintaining roads, cyclists do not. Motorists pay insurance, which covers cyclists in many circumstances, cyclists do not.Clipless, which is counter intuitive in its naming convention, isn't to race. Both road and MTB (and everything in between) has clipless available and provides a more efficient pedal stroke and avoids having your foot slip over when riding, which can be quite the painful experience, ask me how i know lol. I was just mentioning that jokingly as it's known that when you move to clipless, there will be at least one moment in time where you will fall, embarrassing yourself in front of other people, call it a rite of passage. But who knows, maybe those club members have PTSD over it and can't stop for the fear of looking like a fool among their peers
Velodrome is a very specific type of cycling and track bikes are also a whole other type of monster...and it's also still closed due to covid.
Also...motorists do feel entitled. Because we paid for our cars and/or motorcycles, we tend to feel entitled to drive unhindered by anything and everything that could be on the road, as it would be an obstacle. And usually i think this feeling along with the marginalization of the "cyclist" (which they're sometimes causing themselves) creates that beautiful divide.
Sadly i don't see that mentality changing anytime soon. One of the many things that could help solve that is better infrastructure but that definitely isn't happening as it's not popular and doesn't get people re-elected. So we'll keep getting bits and pieces of infrastructure here and there so politicians can pat themselves on the back and people will keep wondering why cyclists are on the road instead of being on that new 2km of bike lane that was painted on the asphalt.
Cyclists share an infrastructure they contribute nothing to, motorists are generally ok with that. When things get tough is when cyclists demand or simply take a bigger share than expected.
I cycle. My wife cycles. We are grateful for the lanes, driver awareness programs and laws that make cycling safer for us. We are shamed by many of our peers who don’t understand how to play nice and respect the road users that pay for our resource.
That is one nice fallacy you've got there.
Mad Mike
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Do explain?
Anybody owning a dwelling or renting one pays partially through their property taxes for cycling infrastructure as they're under municipal jurisdiction. Federal gov't and provincial gov't do inject funds too for umbrella/joint infrastructure projects and they're usually sent to municipalities/partner programs. Vehicle licensing and fees are usually heavily slated towards provincial infrastructure (ie, hwy, bridges, etc) and the revenues brought in from that aren't a negligible amount, sure, but they're not the major source of funding for cycling infrastructure which usually cost peanuts compared to most of these other projects.
And lets be honest, the fancier guys you'll see with their $5-10k bicycles with Di2 electric shifting also own cars and property (esp those you'll find in cycling clubs that can afford those membership fees), it's not just "poor people" who cycle to get places they're also people who contribute to the pool as well.
When i'm complaining about infrastructure in place currently, it's because they're building it in a manner that wastes taxpayer money.
The standards and guidelines for decent cycling infrastructure (at least where it's working elsewhere in the world) are not being followed here. Being able to say "i'd trust my 11-year old to use that cycle path safely by themselves" is not something that can be said for most of what's in place in the GTA. There's no continuous corridor on the map whether north to south or east to west and it's quite similar in most of the GTA. You shouldn't need to be an intermediate-advanced cyclist to be able to get around on bike, safely; it seems they're targeting the wrong crowd when they build.
Proper infrastructure would solve half of the problems we're talking about, ie. cyclists holding up traffic in the city. The other 'half' of the solution, on the country roads , will have to come from education (through cycling clubs, local bike stores, campaigns) but also separate cycle paths going along some country roads wouldn't hurt. Although I can't ever see that one becoming a priority.
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