Separatists run over Canadian flag in Montreal

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fastar1 said:
They could be scum for plenty of reasons. I don't know what their problem is exactly so I don't judge. They're not scum for desecrating the flag, any more than defending the flag makes anyone a hero. The flag represents Canada, it is not Canada.
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One sure sign that someone knows what he is doing is wrong; he conceals his identity.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
http://news.yahoo.com/protesters-burn-u-flag-turkey-120756284.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/14/us-film-protests-idUSBRE88D0O320120914

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_desecration

Flag burning is a form of protest, not illegal to burn a flag in Canada. May I suggest to anyone in this thread that is really that up set with this, get
the quebec flag and film a guy wiping his *** with it and put it on youtube.
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Two wrongs don't make a right and, as I said up-thread, it's not an issue over everyone in Quebec.

There's illegal, and then there's morally repugnant.
 
yes, flag burning isnt illegal. and i still would be upset at watching it BUT

These idiots werent burning it, the were stomping on it, wiping their feet on it, and running it over with cars

its too bad no-one was around to beat the crap out of them and wipe up the protesters blood with it. lol

like i have mentioned before.. if you dont like it, leave. I will help you in any way i can, just as long as you leave, and dont come back.
 
bunmanchi said:
yes, flag burning isnt illegal. and i still would be upset at watching it BUT

These idiots werent burning it, the were stomping on it, wiping their feet on it, and running it over with cars

its too bad no-one was around to beat the crap out of them and wipe up the protesters blood with it. lol

like i have mentioned before.. if you dont like it, leave. I will help you in any way i can, just as long as you leave, and dont come back.
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That is the point, they want Quebec to leave Canada. The irony is Quebec was Canada in 1750 and Quebec city was Quebec. Maybe these protestors see the Quebec flag as the Canadian Flag and in their view they were stomping and wiping their feet on the pirated Canadian flag version.
 
lucky2 said:
i really don't think you get much respect with your attitude. so i'm guessing you don't really respect much of anyone or anything.
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Wingboy said:
Are you a "proud Canadian"?
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I am a mix of many things, ideologies, theories, lessons, habits, cultures, philosophies and politics. I was born and raised here but find that I am also quite compatible in urban centres outside of Canada. What many of us think of as liberal / tolerant Canadian values are actually very much the result of high density urban economic parameters. An urban Canadian is actually closer in values to an urban German or urban Emirate in many ways than a rural Canadian.

Canada is not homogeneous. Canada has much to be proud of, while a lot to be ashamed of also (historically). My allegiance is to a value system that is fair. As long as Canada adheres to it, or roughly there abouts (no one is perfect), then I am "a proud Canadian". But I am ashamed of Canada's history. I am ashamed, though knowing not much can be done about it now, that we cultivate and reap the rewards of this stolen land and resources. Even as immigrants, people put aside their ethics and migrated mostly for the reason of a better economic life.

That being said, Canada has been one of the humblest nations in addressing it's past. The creation of Nunavut was one of thee most impressive political milestones I have ever known from a country at the height of it's power. To give a concession like that, to admit historical wrongs, when from a power position they weren't forced to. That was a moment to be proud of.

Canada largely has a reciprical relationship with it's population. You immigrate, work hard, pay taxes, protest, vote, and you can stay or leave. As long as you are part of the system you obviously support the system financially and politically and for that you are a Canadian. In this way, sure, I am a "proud Canadian".

One day I may move, as I have before, that day I may be a proud expat too. Canada has certainly taught me some great lessons.

But as I say, the Canada I know is ephemeral and temporal, and as others have stated above, can change.

My experience here has moulded me, however there are some elements of what makes me me, that have nothing to do with Canada, other than Canada having been the context in which I encountered them.

There are certain elements of my character which I am not too fond of, but that originate in my experience here. I am what I am today and Canada is certainly a big part of that...

to be proud is a doubled edged emotion, and should be wielded carefully. Am I "proud" in the sense you mean? Ok sure. But as you can see it is not a simple answer.
 
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^^^ you could have broken that down to a yes. lol

I'm glad wingboy didnt ask a tougher question, theres not much bandwidth left
 
bunmanchi said:
^^^ you could have broken that down to a yes. lol

I'm glad wingboy didnt ask a tougher question, theres not much bandwidth left
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Sigh...it was a yes or no question.
 
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