I agree with Fiery, you do have respect issues.
Perhaps the old saying "Walk a mile in someone else's shoes" needs to be "reminded" to you.
Separatists run over Canadian flag in Montreal
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I agree with Fiery, you do have respect issues.
Perhaps the old saying "Walk a mile in someone else's shoes" needs to be "reminded" to you.
your jking right, its not just a cloth its what the cloth stands for and the men and women who died to keep it that way.
**** i hate some people stupid **** on here
You completely miss the point. If someone has fought to protect the flag and the citizens of a country then they're bound to get upset when several of those citizens choose to disrespect thet self same flag. It's got nothing to do with your liberal waffle.
Get that from your favourite lecturer did you?
Men and women died, men and women died, men and women died..... they were doing their jobs..... enough already. It's a f'ing piece of cloth, if you are that sensitive over you have issues..... if what a couple of people do with it bother you that much, you have issues. It's like those 'crazy' muslims that go apecrap over the burning of a book.
When you react over what a bunch of idiots do, you are brining yourself down to their level.
The French burn the flag every JB day. They are a percentage of Quebec that wants out of Canada and so far that's all they have done to get there. Every referendum is a fail. Every pre referendum their stock falls and we pull back what is federal and they teeter on the edge of collapse, then, they vote no and ask us to rescue them from an ice storm/flood because they can't do it at a provincial lvl. No big deal. Those guys effect as much change as occupy shantytown did.
ItIsWhatItIs
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You people need to get a life, this perpetual hate towards Quebec is pathetic. If Quebec separates, it's their perogative, so be it. All provinces should separate. Alberta and newfoundland produce globs of oil, yet Canadians are led to believe paying world prices for Canadian resources is right and paying 30 percent more for gas at the pumps over the US who imports oil to refine for Gas. If this is what it means to be in Canada, all provinces can fak off and go their separate ways.
LOLz
On a serious note, those separatist sound like a spoilt 14 yr old who always threaten to run from home. Not fully aware what the consequences are. I highly doubt a separate Quebec will work positively economically & financially.
BTW, does anybody know what natural resources quebec has that the rest of Canada do not?
As the saying goes, there's power in unity.
awyala
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And you as well as the soldier have missed my point earlier! The French fought for "a flag", the British fought for "a flag", everyone fights, kills, lies, steals, rapes, conquers and pillages for a "a flag". You think one "flag" is better than another? Notice they were waving their own flag?
"Fighting for a flag" is a cliche without any real thought. It is not noble, it is not just! The British defeated the French and they both conquered and oppressed another group of people. There is nothing noble and worth defending in that, regardless of the colours or design of the flag.
That is not an argument.
Secondly modern soldiers fight for a paycheque and some perverse social respect. Very very rarely do soldiers have a good grasp of history or current events to morally substantiate their actions. The chain of command assumes moral liability and the soldier executes orders. This is hardly noble.
So when the reaction to a political and historical statement in what is apparently a country with "free speech" is met with such a violent, emotional and thoughtless knee jerk response, I have no respect no.
Oddly enough I did not say he should be run out of the country and have my will imposed on him through force! But that's the only thing a soldier understands. That and mindless chliche support of yellow or camo ribbons on your bumpers.
I challenge Medic to a better historical and cultural understanding before he resorts to his default tendencies.
The opinion of a soldier is his own. The actions of a soldier are those of his commander.
It is illegal to act on any order that is unlawful. Acting on an unlawful order makes one accountable for a crime. Soldiers are taught and paid to know that.
The "it was an order" excuse is no excuse.
Just as "I'm a failure" is the fault of the individual. Not the fault of the successful around him.
What was then, or should be in the future is no argument to what is done in the here and now.
You have too strong an opinion of the things you don't know first hand friend.
But it's OK.
Knowing you are utterly frustrated with the life you have never gets old reading.
Rather than hate call it incredulity at how simple Separatists seem to think their lives would be made by separation. They seem to think that they could effectively declare bankruptcy and walk away from all the debt incurred by running this country while continuing to use Canadian currency, and maintaining their subsidized lifestyle. I know plenty of reasonable people from Quebec. The ones in the video, who are spitting and tap dancing on our nation's flag, are to be pitied for their cognitive disabilities, not hated.
awyala
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My point earlier was that at the point or height of the support for the Bloq 51% of Quebec wanted to separate. When a referendum was delayed until 70% or over support could be gained, it was postponed indefinitely as support actually waned. The Bloq has since become a shadow of itself and these "separatists" have certainly learned that lesson, that Quebec will be culturally crushed if it direct engaged with the US as an independent state and that a union with Canada is a pretty sweet deal. Besides, setting that precedent would pave the way for Native separatists from Quebec!
This video is such a non-issue and so non-threatening. With proper historical and even recent historical context most of you wouldn't even be bothered. Relax.
awyala
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What that cloth stands for is ephemeral, relative and not what it stood for even 20 years ago under a less hawkish culture. Flags change, culture changes, people and cultures aren't inherently right or wrong. Therefore a cloth is not a representation of morality or universal justification.
killerkeith
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Let's give them just the thumb.
The guy flops around like a carp on the shore in it's death throes. In the Palestine thread he's screaming left right and centre for for respect and telling everyone they should understand their plight.
Actually, the flip-flopping just to argue an arcane point (with a handful of fifty cent words thrown in for good measure) sounds eerily familiar. I smell a sock puppet with afong56's hand planted firmly up it's butt, but hey, what do I know.
It was. I know it registers when it gets no retort.
knucklesound
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Was i the only one who noticed that one dude was wearing a Slayer shirt?
Don't Slayer 'sing' in English?!
When i was in Montreal for a VoiVod concert many years ago- i remember some metalheads yelling at the opening band "Le posssseurs!" and sticking them the finger.
Seemed about the same level of maturity as this boring scene.
These guys are getting people a lot more upset than they should be.
Don't Slayer 'sing' in English?!
When i was in Montreal for a VoiVod concert many years ago- i remember some metalheads yelling at the opening band "Le posssseurs!" and sticking them the finger.
Seemed about the same level of maturity as this boring scene.
These guys are getting people a lot more upset than they should be.
