You have demonstrated that you don't know, either who or what.
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Road Rage on the 401, May 21, 2014
- Thread starter slbert
- Start date
Orygun
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Perhaps, but at least I have a sense of humor.
Reviving a very old thread...... I was the OP on this. I am older (retired) and maybe a bit wiser...... jury is out on that one. Anyway, I still think about this incident 10 years on, especially when I still see how some riders drive. I also wonder if the person who "mirrored" me is still around? I am..... still driving VW's too.
All the best..... be safe, riders.
All the best..... be safe, riders.
Ten years later. Things haven't seemingly changed much. Hopefully you've been well and not encountered any more racer wannabes on our highways.
Relax
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Brake-checking is outlawed in Section 172 of the Ontario Highway Traffic Act, which bans stunt driving. The law specifically says it is illegal to brake-check or intentionally stop or slow down.
Drivers who brake-check can be ticketed for stunt driving, which can result in severe penalties, including:
Drivers who brake-check can be ticketed for stunt driving, which can result in severe penalties, including:
- Fine between $2,000 and $10,000, along with a surcharge and court costs
- One to three-year suspension of your driver’s licence if you are convicted
- Mandatory attendance at a driver improvement course
- Six demerit points on your licence
- Up to six months in jail
- 14-day impoundment of your vehicle
I did have my signal on.... he declined to acknowledge it.....
I was still significantly above the speed limit. He was close enough on my bumper I did not brake check him, or he would have been in my back seat.
I see them and ignore them. Yes I have been well. Not doing the commute into the GTA does wonders for ones well being....
Relax
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The law specifically says it is illegal to brake-check or intentionally stop or slow down.
The intent of that section is for rapid deceleration, ie "brake checking." Slowing down when you're being tailgated is explicitly mentioned as the preferred way to deal with a tailgater in both the Driver's Handbook and on the driving test. It should be noted that tailgating is also listed in the racing and stunting definitions, by way of "driving a motor vehicle in a manner that indicates an intention to drive, without justification, as close as possible to another vehicle, pedestrian or fixed object on or near the highway."
Relax
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The principle is to encourage the tailgater to pass, and implies you aren't in the passing lane. If you are, you should either move over or complete your pass. Slowing down in the passing lane whether you use your brakes or lay off the gas serves no purpose since the tailgater is blocked in with nowhere to go, and only fuels road rage.
I don't think this particular rider needed any fuel in order to rage.
Relax
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OP admitted he was surprised how quickly the rider ended up on his tail, so he probably misjudged the closing speed. If I'm speeding in the passing lane and get cut off, I don't completely blame the driver since they're not expecting me to be going so fast. I'm usually on my way without a second thought. On the other hand, if they had immediately done something stupid like purposely slowing down just to aggravate me, then that would have gotten my blood boiling.
Ah, so you are of the mindset I should have sped up and encouraged his behaviour. Good to know. It is that type of driving that causes accidents. It mostly is not the rider of the bike who is in the accident, but those who react by swerving to avoid a potential accident, causing a different accident.
What amazed me in this thread from so long ago is how polarizing the topic was and still is. I was wrong, he was wrong. I did the original post because I truly hoped he or some of his clan would read this and think about their actions. Speed is a drug.... a ton of fun, but do it when there is no one else around, because you never know how they will react.
Relax
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When did I say you should have sped up?
I can't imagine letting a broken mirror be such a life defining event, that I would feel compelled to return to a forum 10 years later to continue arguing about it.
Might be time to let it go. Best way to "win" is to move on.
Might be time to let it go. Best way to "win" is to move on.
It was not a "life defining" moment. I let it go a long time ago...... but was going thru old emails and saw it. Just made me wonder if the guy was still around, or if his riding "skills" caught up with him. 10 years is a lot of growing up. Who knows, maybe I'll revive it on the 20 year make as well.....I can't imagine letting a broken mirror be such a life defining event, that I would feel compelled to return to a forum 10 years later to continue arguing about it.
Might be time to let it go. Best way to "win" is to move on.
RC-31
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Wow,
Some people are triggered easily... LOL...
If the OP wants to respond to his/her own post 10 years later, who cares...
Got nothing constructive to add, move on... Simple as that...
I'm taking my own advise and moving on...
Some people are triggered easily... LOL...
If the OP wants to respond to his/her own post 10 years later, who cares...
Got nothing constructive to add, move on... Simple as that...
I'm taking my own advise and moving on...
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