RIP Steve Jobs

CanadianBiker said:
Steve Jobs was the poster boy for greedy, egomaniacal, scheming CEOs, whose true genius lay in marketing unnecessary gizmos to naive, gullible people who somehow thought that Apple was a "nice" company. He carefully cultivated the image of the nerdy hipster and all the nerdy hipsters fell in line. Meanwhile, he collected his billions, pulled boardroom moves that would have made Machiavelli jealous and crushed opposition, even if it took years.
On a human level, it's a shame he died, as it is when most people die. But the way the Apple-itsi are wailing and moaning and rending their clothes, you'd think the Messiah has died.
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Ya but the difference between him and other entrepeneur types is that he managed to do it better than everyone else.

Oh and I"m dreading going home and seeing all of the candle light vigils everywhere. *shudder*
 
Flashmonkey said:
Ya but the difference between him and other entrepeneur types is that he managed to do it better than everyone else.

Oh and I"m dreading going home and seeing all of the candle light vigils everywhere. *shudder*
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I would say Bill Gates was better at peddling outdated technology.. :-)
 
Roasted said:
I'm fully expecting Steve jobs to be resurrected in a couple days so that Apple can finally officially be recognized as a legitimate religion.
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LOL, bastard

CanadianBiker said:
Steve Jobs was the poster boy for greedy, egomaniacal, scheming CEOs, whose true genius lay in marketing unnecessary gizmos to naive, gullible people who somehow thought that Apple was a "nice" company. He carefully cultivated the image of the nerdy hipster and all the nerdy hipsters fell in line. Meanwhile, he collected his billions, pulled boardroom moves that would have made Machiavelli jealous and crushed opposition, even if it took years.
On a human level, it's a shame he died, as it is when most people die. But the way the Apple-itsi are wailing and moaning and rending their clothes, you'd think the Messiah has died.
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True, but he did revolutionized the industry. There were some good & bad to him. I hated the bad, that's why I never opt to buy an apple product
 
Wingboy said:
Wtf is with all these S Jobs threads? Is this guy up for a perma spot at the vatican or something?
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Ya he should be...cause he changed the way you communicate...like it or not...dude...

A really sad day...for the world.
 
invictus43 said:
I would say Bill Gates was better at peddling outdated technology.. :-)
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Really? I would say, based on my 24 years in the industry, that Gates did far more to push performance in the personal computer industry than Jobs ever did. The O/S and software required more hardware performance, which resulted in hardware manufacturers producing faster product, which gave more headroom for software and the O/S to eat up, which then..... So much so that, ultimately, Jobs' company made the decision to start using the same hardware as Windows based PCs.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Really? I would say, based on my 24 years in the industry, that Gates did far more to push performance in the personal computer industry than Jobs ever did. The O/S and software required more hardware performance, which resulted in hardware manufacturers producing faster product, which gave more headroom for software and the O/S to eat up, which then..... So much so that, ultimately, Jobs' company made the decision to start using the same hardware as Windows based PCs.
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I've been at it for just as long as you Rob! :-) Technology refers to more than hardware too!! :-) Are you seriously going to tell me that Windows 3.1 was a great technology for its time??? I got one word for MS: bloat.
 
invictus43 said:
In what way did he change it?
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You can't deny he changed the Music industry (iTunes), the way we communicate with mobile devices/Tablets (iPad) -> smartphones (iPhone) and the product that started it all, the iPod.

This forced competitors to start cranking out similar or better products. i.e. Look at RIM Before the iPhone was released and after.

I'm not an Apple fanboi nor do I own an iPad, iPhone, or use iTunes. But you can't deny that he had an effect on a lot of the technological changes, one way or another.
 
Funny how people are shocked by his death.
Why? Did you know him personally?
Did he give you part of his billions?

If not, then stop being shocked. Live you own life and stop bowing down to these billionares.

God I hate the sheeple.
 
nfq said:
You can't deny he changed the Music industry (iTunes), the way we communicate with mobile devices/Tablets (iPad) -> smartphones (iPhone) and the product that started it all, the iPod.

This forced competitors to start cranking out similar or better products. i.e. Look at RIM Before the iPhone was released and after.

I'm not an Apple fanboi nor do I own an iPad, iPhone, or use iTunes. But you can't deny that he had an effect on a lot of the technological changes, one way or another.
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Absolutely. My second computer was an Apple II+ in 1980. I've watched Apple for a long time and been programming for a long time! :-) My question is, how did he change the way we communicate? Apple didn't invent the cell phone..or text messaging..or smart phones. So I'm honestly curious why people think he changed the way we communicate. Apple certainly produced some well-timed, well-done products. But technologically, I wouldn't call them ground-breaking.
 
invictus43 said:
In what way did he change it?
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I mentioned this in the other thread, but I for one don't believe we'd have any sort of tablet market right now if it wasn't for Jobs' iPad. While innovations in the mp3 market and superphone market may have eventually come around to what we have now, I don't think the same can be said for the tablet market. He pretty much created the market for that out of nothing.

Not in a "Jesus making wine out of water" kind of way...but more in a "Hey look at all these idiots buying up my crap...let me sell them more crap" kind of way. ;)
 
Wow, the number of people who don't get the impact of Apple products on our lives just reinforces for me how important and difficult his contribution to the tech world was. It might take another generation before the bits and bytes geeks fully absorb all the lessons that Jobs brought to the industry.
 
Flashmonkey said:
I mentioned this in the other thread, but I for one don't believe we'd have any sort of tablet market right now if it wasn't for Jobs' iPad. While innovations in the mp3 market and superphone market may have eventually come around to what we have now, I don't think the same can be said for the tablet market. He pretty much created the market for that out of nothing.

Not in a "Jesus making wine out of water" kind of way...but more in a "Hey look at all these idiots buying up my crap...let me sell them more crap" kind of way. ;)
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Portable MP3 players preceded the iPod. Online filesharing was availble long before iTunes. We'd have tablets, we just might not have iPads. He was good at seeing a niche and marketing a product to be sure. But I'm not sure it was always original. Frankly, I find portable MP3 players a lot easier to use than an iPod. I like your last statement best.. :-) That's how I feel about Bill Gates and Windows.. Haha!!
 
invictus43 said:
Absolutely. My second computer was an Apple II+ in 1980. I've watched Apple for a long time and been programming for a long time! :-) My question is, how did he change the way we communicate? Apple didn't invent the cell phone..or text messaging..or smart phones. So I'm honestly curious why people think he changed the way we communicate. Apple certainly produced some well-timed, well-done products. But technologically, I wouldn't call them ground-breaking.
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you don't have to invent something from scratch to change things up. How you use it in a different way or perspective, is enough. 10yrs ago, outside of comp sci/geek circles, touchscreens where something in movies and Star Trek. Now they're as commonplace as #2 pencils were for test taking.
 
invictus43 said:
Portable MP3 players preceded the iPod. Online filesharing was availble long before iTunes. We'd have tablets, we just might not have iPads. He was good at seeing a niche and marketing a product to be sure. But I'm not sure it was always original. Frankly, I find portable MP3 players a lot easier to use than an iPod. I like your last statement best.. :-) That's how I feel about Bill Gates and Windows.. Haha!!
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Absolutely! I'm not big on itunes which is why I ditched my ipod, and kind of the reason I'm hesitant to get an iPhone despite the fact that it's probably the easiest to use superphone out there.

Bill Gates, IMO, is on par with Jobs in terms of genius and innovation, but people don't like him as much. Either Jobs was better at swooning the masses, or Gates doesn't give a crap about how he comes off to everyone. There's no doubt that Windows has a place in history as well.
 
Roasted said:
Two cancer cells walk into a bar, one turns to the other and says; "let's get jobs"
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LOL where's braveheart? THIS is how you make a "too-soon" steve jobs joke, damnit!
 
nfq said:
you don't have to invent something from scratch to change things up. How you use it in a different way or perspective, is enough. 10yrs ago, outside of comp sci/geek circles, touchscreens where something in movies and Star Trek. Now they're as commonplace as #2 pencils were for test taking.
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Plus he did make the mouse and the scroll wheel on the ipod widespread
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