Not if the regulation gets "clarified" ... which appears likely at this point.
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Riding during stay at home order.
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Not if the regulation gets "clarified" ... which appears likely at this point.
Same approach as the occasional ride a year ago: Leave home with a full fuel tank (and an empty bladder!), ride solo for an hour or two in a loop that ends up back home. Not interacting with anyone, so no covid19 spread risk. Not doing stupid risky stuff. Not attracting attention that warrants being pulled over. Not really going all that far from home.
Each beneficiary now owns an equal share and can bequeath to anyone of their choosing. I hope all the siblings get along, this **** can get messy.
Green Meenie
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It's fine for now but when this generation starts dying off, it's gonna get messy for sure! I keep my mouth zipped and hope I'm not around when the poop hits the fan ?
Hack
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TK4
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The cops have better things to do.
My favorite politician, Dougie, is now "clarifying" his position as he always has to do because he speaks before thinking. I guess they've thought it through a bit and realized we don't live in Nazi Germany so the OPP will not be acting as Gestapo and stopping you asking for your papers, where you live and what the hell you are doing driving on the highway.
After outcry, Ontario backtracks on police powers to conduct random COVID-19 stops
FRANK GUNN/THE CANADIAN PRESSTORONTO
THE CANADIAN PRESS
PUBLISHED APRIL 17, 2021UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Furious criticism of new anti-pandemic powers that allow police in Ontario to stop any motorist or pedestrian and ask where they live and why they’re not home prompted the provincial government on Saturday to reconsider the measures.
As the number of infected people in hospital reached record levels, Premier Doug Ford tweeted that the measures, which also included shutting down all outdoor recreational facilities and playgrounds, would be clarified.
“Ontario’s enhanced restrictions were always intended to stop large gatherings where spread can happen,” Ford said. “Our regulations will be amended to allow playgrounds, but gatherings outside will still be enforced.”
Earlier, a government source told The Canadian Press that a “clarification” of the police powers was pending final approval.
“We have heard a lot of feedback on this in the last 24 hours in terms of the scope and applicability,” said the source, who was not authorized to speak publicly.
Civil libertarians and pundits have attacked new anti-pandemic restrictions announced Friday by Ford as misguided.
The added police powers aimed at enforcing stay-at-home orders, they said, were overkill.
The closing of outdoor spaces puzzled many public health experts, who said the measures didn’t make sense.
“Outdoor activities are vital for mental and physical health, especially with stay-at-home orders,” Dr. Isaac Bogoch, who sits on the province’s COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution Task Force, said in a tweet.
“Science is clear: Outdoor COVID transmission is extremely rare.”
The pandemic, meanwhile, continued unabated on Saturday. The number of patients in hospital due to the novel coronavirus rose above 2,000 for the first time since the beginning of the pandemic, with 726 in intensive care and 501 needing a ventilator, authorities reported
Health officials also recorded 34 more deaths related to the virus – the highest single-day count in almost two months , when 47 people were reported as dying from coronavirus disease.
The province logged 4,362 new cases on Saturday, down from Friday’s record-setting number of 4,812. Globally, the pandemic has now killed more than three million people.
Politicians were among those denouncing the new police powers.
In a note to constituents, Jill Andrew, a New Democrat provincial legislator, said the measures show the Ford government is out of touch.
“Let’s be very real here: We are not going to police our way out of the pandemic,” she said. “The reality here is that this will likely impact Black, Indigenous, and people of colour.”
“I am very concerned about arbitrary stops of people by police at any time,” Toronto Mayor John Tory said in a tweet.
While violating restrictions can carry a $750 fine, failure to provide police with requested information can result in criminal charges, according to the province’s association of police chiefs.
Large and small police forces across the province, however, said they had no intention of exercising their new-found powers.
“I would like to reassure our citizens that our officers will not be conducting random vehicle or individual stops,” Peel Regional Police Chief Nishan Duraiappah said in a statement on Saturday.
Andrew Fletcher, chief of the South Simcoe Police Service, said officers would only act on complaints. Police forces from Thunder Bay to Ottawa to Toronto and Woodstock expressed similar positions.
Civil rights groups, however, took little comfort.
“Ontario is one step closer to becoming a police state,” said Joanna Baron, executive director of the Calgary-based Canadian Constitution Foundation.
“Low income and minority communities have borne the brunt of this pandemic in terms of cases and mortality, and they are now more likely to bear the brunt of police enforcement.”
The new restrictions, including a two-week extension to the province’s stay-at-home order until May 20, were announced amid dire warnings from government scientific advisers that the pandemic was only set to worsen.
Other measures include further restrictions on outdoor gatherings and indoor religious services, while recreational facilities such as sports fields and playgrounds are now closed. Ontario intends to shut its borders with Quebec and Manitoba to non-essential travel effective Monday.
Ford said Friday the province was “on its heels” and the measures were urgently needed to bring the province’s raging COVID-19 situation under control.
But experts said Ford had missed the mark on key drivers of the pandemic, including a lack of paid sick leave for essential workers and dearth of evidence playgrounds have been a transmission source.
“Doug Ford’s handling of this pandemic has been an abject failure and absolute disaster,” said Patty Coates, president of the Ontario Federation of Labour.
Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown, a father of two young children, welcomed the change of heart on playgrounds, saying “common sense wins.”
“Now let’s have a discussion on other outdoor amenities as well,” Brown said
saw a few 'martial law' posts on FB, i just rolled my eyes.
Green Meenie
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Other than if you want to play golf or tennis- those still a super-spreader activities apparently
I read somewhere that income tax was to be a temporary measure.
Nikola Tesla
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Anyone ride yesterday? It was a ghost town everywhere, seems like half the population died, very few motorcycles out too, I’ve never seen downtown Toronto so bare, it was a nice weekend day too.... another observation was police presence everywhere was higher than normal, a lot of people pulled over too..
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Hack
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Hack
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A friend of mine rode to Orangeville via the Forks yesterday...
Very few bikes out... No police.
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