Really? Highbeams during the day???

And here I thought the topic was about this...
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For the record... I'm in favour of ALL high beams.... :lmao:
 
RickT said:
And here I thought the topic was about this...

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For the record... I'm in favour of ALL high beams.... :lmao:
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Those are radio antenna, not high beams. She's just trying to get overseas stations is all.
 
When I bought my bike, and the salesman was going over the controls with me, he said "Keep the highbeams on during the day - it's technically illegal, but it will make you easier to see."

I smiled and proceeded to ignore his advice.
Someone posted the relevant section of the HTA earlier in the thread (funny that they thought they were proving it to be legal, when it is quite obviously illegal, at least when you are anywhere near any other vehicles).

I don't do it, I think it's a dick move. Highbeams are for when you are alone on the road, without adequate street lighting, at night. Maybe to warn other motorists that they are heading into a speed trap.

That said, I don't get all butt-hurt about it if someone does have their high beams on. Unless they are running those HID kits. Those things bother my eyes even on low-beams.
 
When I took the motorcycle safety course we were told to have the high beams on during the day. I have to admit that when i am drvcing my car, I can see motorcycles much sooner when they have their high beams. During the day high beams are not a distraction.
 
Half of the world manages to do okay without Daytime running lights.

So why do you feel the need to ride around with high beams on? Maybe a Volvo purchase is in the future for you.
 
Gummiente said:
Uh... I grew up in the days of Imperial weights and measurements. What does a metric assload convert to in pounds? :dontknow:
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I think it's multiply by 2.2...

<grin>
 
I would bet money that not one of the hi-beam advocates would ever don a reflective safey vest, no matter how much safer it makes them.

And with that arguement, how are you making yourselves more visible to traffic flowing with you? I'd be more concerned about dude beside me than coming towards me on the other side of the road.

The arguements are asanine, and really hold no water for those preaching safety.
 
In the second World War one of the Air-forces realized that bright lights shined in the eyes of enemies was a very effective camouflage.

I could understand wanting to run high beams on old bikes (Like my old Norton Commando) as they have very poor headlights, but any modern bike has so much better headlights that you are effectively stopping other drivers from knowing important information about your motorcycles movement.

Drivers have a harder time seeing your speed, what kind of vehicle you are, and your location. All they know that a bright light is shining in your eyes. It could be a reflection from a shiny object, it could be a car quite a bit further away; whatever it is the natural tendency is to look away from it once the eye registers that something too bright is shining in it.

Knowing what kind of vehicle is heading towards them, the speed, the location are key to a driver understanding that there is a possibility of a crash, and if they don't know that your likelihood of getting hit is worse.

On the subject of being blinded by lights: I have always had incredible night vision since I was a kid. I wear sunglasses almost all the time when outside and even then sometimes very bright lights can be annoying. This has gotten worse with age, not better. Consider that many drivers out there are older and so have a harder time with bright lights in their eyes..


If you really want to avoid getting hit by cars please see the links In my signature. The first talks about “motion camouflage”, the second gives a detailed study about whey bikes aren’t seen.

..Tom
 
I can see both sides of this argument as I get very annoyed at some crappy imports with crappy modified HID lighting...last night I saw a bike with a horrible HID kit that was incredibly bright.

But you don't have to stare at the shiny bright light! LOL.

It's a simple matter of seeing something bright and looking at it, then looking away and focusing on where you are going. Don't focus on it.

...and don't tell me you can't help but stare at the light! It's a lie. Otherwise you'd be distracted by the keys in the ignition, or the penny on the ground.

If someone does happen to have an incredibly bright headlight just flash your highbeams at them and maybe they'll get the point. Or get their plate and report them to roadwatch.ca

Quit yer bitchin.

(and for the record I have neither an HID kit nor do I use Highbeams during the day)
 
Gryphon said:
Whatta bunch of garbage.Bright lights don't blind anyone in the DAYTIME.And not illegal. If it's daytime my highbeam is on!If you think it's annoying, awwwww...We've gotta call you a wahhhmbulance.What's truly stupid is not doing it.Or what - should we all saw off our exhaust mufflers, for 'safety'?LoL, no that's not annoying, heheh...Please Low Rider, no more bad advice.
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I wish you the best of luck riding around on your mobile flash bang.
 
slowbird said:
I can see both sides of this argument as I get very annoyed at some crappy imports with crappy modified HID lighting...last night I saw a bike with a horrible HID kit that was incredibly bright.

But you don't have to stare at the shiny bright light! LOL.

It's a simple matter of seeing something bright and looking at it, then looking away and focusing on where you are going. Don't focus on it.

...and don't tell me you can't help but stare at the light! It's a lie. Otherwise you'd be distracted by the keys in the ignition, or the penny on the ground.

If someone does happen to have an incredibly bright headlight just flash your highbeams at them and maybe they'll get the point. Or get their plate and report them to roadwatch.ca

Quit yer bitchin.

(and for the record I have neither an HID kit nor do I use Highbeams during the day)
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No, you don't have to look at it. Not unless you want to see it. If people aren't looking at you, because they don't want that bright light in their eyes, then they aren't looking at YOU. Peripheral vision isn't specific, but rather more sensitive to motion. The most accurate vision, of the eye, is for things that are in the direct field of view. If you're pushing yourself into people's peripheral vision, you're putting yourself at greater risk.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
No, you don't have to look at it. Not unless you want to see it. If people aren't looking at you, because they don't want that bright light in their eyes, then they aren't looking at YOU. Peripheral vision isn't specific, but rather more sensitive to motion. The most accurate vision, of the eye, is for things that are in the direct field of view. If you're pushing yourself into people's peripheral vision, you're putting yourself at greater risk.
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There are too differing arguments against the highbeam/bright headlights. Either:

Headlight is too bright and it blinds you: Drivers are looking at the light and are blinded.

or

Headlight is too bright and people look away: Drivers aren't looking at you cause you headlight is too bright.

The fact is the bright light will make the rider noticeable. How the oncoming driver reacts is secondary to the fact that the rider has accomplished his goal of being noticed.

are there better ways to get noticed. Probably. But the lights are the easiest way. That's why Emergency vehicles have them all over the place.
 
slowbird said:
There are too differeing arguments against the highbeam/bright headlights.

Either:

Light is too bright and it blinds you: people are looking at the light and blindingly drive into you.

or

Light is too bright and people look away: People aren't looking at you cause you headlight is too bright.

The fact is the bright light will make the rider noticeable. How the oncoming driver reacts is secondary to the fact that the rider has accomplished his goal of being noticed.

are there better ways to get noticed. Probably. But the lights are the easiest way. That's why Emergency vehicles have them all over the place.
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Actually those are two different possible reactions, to the same basic argument: Having your high beams on is counter productive to being and staying visible, in traffic. When it matters the oncoming driver is either not looking at you, or not able to properly gauge your position and speed, which essentially amounts to the same problem; poor visibility.

Emergency vehicle lights are alternating, of generally lesser power, of unusual colouration, and are not aimed in such a way that they directly impact the eyes of those around them. They are also accompanied by a siren, of specific volume, sound, and modulation, that is generally even more noticeable than are the lights.
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