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Re: the titanic submersible issue

Evoex said:
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Very well said, guy know's his stuff.

Just looking at the sub he built and comparing it to the OceanGate, which looks like a toy. That whole front end which opens seems crazy, when James sub has small hole to get inside of.
 
Charles13 said:
It’s coming out that the Biden administration new of the implosion on Sunday
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Why inject politics into this? It doesn't change the outcome.

Yes, it is now known a loud noise was detected by hydrophones at a certain time on Sunday afternoon which in retrospect coincided with the time that communication was lost with the submersible. The source of that noise would not have been known at the time to those who heard it. It's none of the government administration's business what a private enterprise was doing out in international waters. It's not their job to keep an eye on what this, or any other, private enterprise is doing.

The private enterprise itself ought to have been listening with a hydrophone, and they themselves ought to have been able to put loss of communication + loud bang shortly thereafter together to deduce what happened. Instead, they waited 8 hours to notify authorities, during which time a government department knew that they had heard a noise but had no clue what had caused it, and it isn't even the same government department that would have been notified (Coast Guard), and the private enterprise didn't provide any evidence that would have been indicative of an implosion.

This failure is on OceanGate. No one else.
 
jc100 said:
5 guys, sudden deaths. Suspicious. Were they vaccinated?
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Mad Mike said:
I think you're looking at the characteristics of a beam vs sphere. Carbon fiber, like concrete, has excellent compression but lousy elasticity -- both are incredibly good at handling compression pressures when used to make round or spherical vessels.

Think of an egg, the shell is made from calcium carbonate about one-hundredth of an inch thick A piece of the shell would crush with the pressure of a pinky finger, but if the egg is intact and the pressures equally distributed it would stand 250ATM which means it should stay together down to 8000' below sea level.

That said, any impact changes things as the forces are no longer equally distributed. A light collision and the egg (or submarine) could explode.
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Carbon fibre has roughly 1/3 the compressive strength as tensile depending on the layup and mostly epoxy/resin--it can also be much worse if not well made or if there are gaps in the layup/matrix etc. Beams are under both tensile and compressive forces during defection, just to point that one out.... An egg made the same dimensions out of titanium will be stronger than a chicken egg in every way. Make it out of steel and it will be even stronger yet... but heavier yet. The shape of the vessel plays a roll in strength (no one is saying otherwise) but so does the material, of course?

The end results speak for themselves..... Don't give them any ideas about finding giant genetically engineered chicken eggs as the Mark2 version or we may run out of idiot billionaires! Like that is possible....
 
With all the hydrophones in the Atlantic keeping tabs on the Russian subs and the Pacific keeping track of the Chinese , who is watching the Dutch?


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backmarkerducati said:
Carbon fibre has roughly 1/3 the compressive strength as tensile depending on the layup and mostly epoxy/resin--it can also be much worse if not well made or if there are gaps in the layup/matrix etc. Beams are under both tensile and compressive forces during defection, just to point that one out.... An egg made the same dimensions out of titanium will be stronger than a chicken egg in every way. Make it out of steel and it will be even stronger yet... but heavier yet. The shape of the vessel plays a roll in strength (no one is saying otherwise) but so does the material, of course?

The end results speak for themselves..... Don't give them any ideas about finding giant genetically engineered chicken eggs as the Mark2 version or we may run out of idiot billionaires! Like that is possible....
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I was thinking... if a chicken egg made of calcium carbonate can go to 8000' deep, maybe I can raise a few hundred $million from adventure-seeking billionaires to make a 2" thick dinosaur-sized egg for deep sea exploration?

Any of the GTAM ballers in?
 
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