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dankyyz said:
Enlighten me then.
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Start at the beginning, get to your post, and then you will be enlightened as to what this thread was about (because it has already happened) -before it wasn't about anything (when you joined in).
Or look at the bands of united riders sending letters to support their views (various topics) to find out what a thread is REALLY about, when influence (the letters) can happen.
Or look at the rides threads to see it is about riding.
But to digress to this, not talking about the issue, waste.
'Enlighten me then' is rhetoric to get him/whoever to repost each point to continue the madness? you're twisting in circles
Has anyone seen the family guy where peter makes the noise anytime someone says 'Meg' ? ttthhhhh this is how I hear dink's name now. (I misspelled dank, with dink and then the blue man showed up lol) (now it's there twice! haha)
Damn me for not being on topic!
 
Pocket Sprocket said:
Start at the beginning, get to your post, and then you will be enlightened as to what this thread was about (because it has already happened) -before it wasn't about anything (when you joined in).
Or look at the bands of united riders sending letters to support their views (various topics) to find out what a thread is REALLY about, when influence (the letters) can happen.
Or look at the rides threads to see it is about riding.
But to digress to this, not talking about the issue, waste.
'Enlighten me then' is rhetoric to get him/whoever to repost each point to continue the madness? you're twisting in circles
Has anyone seen the family guy where peter makes the noise anytime someone says 'Meg' ? ttthhhhh this is how I hear dink's name now. (I misspelled dank, with dink and then the blue man showed up lol) (now it's there twice! haha)
Damn me for not being on topic!
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Your right. this thread **** the bed about a week ago, and i shoulda bowed out.

I reread my post. Still like it. Sorry to hear you dont like my approach. (not really...) thppppp....
 
SiNNeR said:
"trying to decide":confused1:

decide what?

isnt the rule charge every one and everything and let the courts figure it out..:confused1:
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And Police wonders why no one respects them. The RCMP is rotten to the core.
 
SiNNeR said:
"trying to decide":confused1:

decide what?

isnt the rule charge every one and everything and let the courts figure it out..:confused1:
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It depends who's at risk of being charged. Different people have different rules applied to them. There are rules for people like you and me. Then there are rules for police officers. Still different rules for police officers that are the subjects of an inquiry. And yet more rules for former Attorney-Generals. It's a complicated world out there for judges and prosecutors. So many different rules, so many different ways of applying them.

--- D
 
Duster929 said:
It depends who's at risk of being charged. Different people have different rules applied to them. There are rules for people like you and me. Then there are rules for police officers. Still different rules for police officers that are the subjects of an inquiry. And yet more rules for former Attorney-Generals. It's a complicated world out there for judges and prosecutors. So many different rules, so many different ways of applying them.

--- D
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My sarcasm meter is going off the hook on this one...

But seriously now, enough time has passed that these charges should be addressed.

It seems like they are playing the old "wait until all have forgotten routine"... and the media is too concerned about the next couple with 8-10 kids to stay focused on the important things IMO.
 
eastcoast_gsx said:
My sarcasm meter is going off the hook on this one...

But seriously now, enough time has passed that these charges should be addressed.

It seems like they are playing the old "wait until all have forgotten routine"... and the media is too concerned about the next couple with 8-10 kids to stay focused on the important things IMO.
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I only wish it was sarcasm. At some point, we have to acknowledge that the absurd has become the reality. Maybe it's cynicism, then.

I suspect that they're trying to figure out if they're going to lay charges against him on the Dziekanski thing. I don't know how it works, but I imagine there's some jurisdictional tug-of-war going on between prosecutors. They likely don't want one charge to jeopardize the viability of the other, as the cases would be tried in different courts, etc...?

--- D
 
Duster929 said:
I suspect that they're trying to figure out if they're going to lay charges against him on the Dziekanski thing. I don't know how it works, but I imagine there's some jurisdictional tug-of-war going on between prosecutors. They likely don't want one charge to jeopardize the viability of the other, as the cases would be tried in different courts, etc...?
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When you planning to run for office. :D
 
caboose483 said:
they're considering laying charges??? how about criminal negligence causing death?? vehicular manslaughter?
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Re-read the first paragraph. They've laid charges in the crash while they were still reviewing laying charges in the tazering incident. The wording is a bit confusing.
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ed-driving-charge-in-bc-death/article1384800/

Globe and Mail Update Published on Tuesday, Dec. 01, 2009 6:29PM EST Last updated on Tuesday, Dec. 01, 2009 6:34PM EST
Overruling recommendations by a local police force, B.C.'s attorney general's office has refused to lay impaired driving charges after a fatal crash last year involving an RCMP officer who is also at the centre of the scandal over the tasering and death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski.
The minister's Criminal Justice Branch will instead lay a single charge of Attempting to Obstruct Justice against RCMP Corporal Benjamin (Monty) Robinson.
The charge came after a Oct. 25, 2008, crash in Tsawwassen, B.C., in which motorcyclist Orion Hutchinson was struck and killed by a Jeep alleged to have been driven by Cpl. Robinson, who was off-duty at the time. Witnesses said at the time that the officer fled the scene of the crash to drop his kids off at his home nearby. He later failed a breathalyzer test.
Six months ago, the Delta Police Force, which includes Tsawwassen, recommended the Crown lay charges of impaired driving causing death and dangerous driving causing death. They took the unusual step of announcing their recommendation, citing the high profile of the case.
But in a statement Tuesday, the government said “available evidence does not establish to the criminal standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that at the time of the collision Cpl. Robinson had a blood alcohol level over the legal limit, that his ability to operate a motor vehicle was impaired by alcohol, or that he was operating his vehicle in a dangerous manner…”
Court documents suggested Cpl. Robinson said, at the scene, he had walked to his nearby home after the crash, consumed the vodka, and returned.
In March, the B.C. Supreme Court rejected a petition by Cpl. Robinson that a 90-day driving suspension handed down in the case was unfair because his blood-alcohol content was affected by the vodka.
The crash came just over a year after Cpl. Robinson gave the order to fire a taser at Mr. Dziekanski, who died shortly after.
 
Sad.

meester_jamie said:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ed-driving-charge-in-bc-death/article1384800/

Globe and Mail Update Published on Tuesday, Dec. 01, 2009 6:29PM EST Last updated on Tuesday, Dec. 01, 2009 6:34PM EST
Overruling recommendations by a local police force, B.C.'s attorney general's office has refused to lay impaired driving charges after a fatal crash last year involving an RCMP officer who is also at the centre of the scandal over the tasering and death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski.
The minister's Criminal Justice Branch will instead lay a single charge of Attempting to Obstruct Justice against RCMP Corporal Benjamin (Monty) Robinson.
The charge came after a Oct. 25, 2008, crash in Tsawwassen, B.C., in which motorcyclist Orion Hutchinson was struck and killed by a Jeep alleged to have been driven by Cpl. Robinson, who was off-duty at the time. Witnesses said at the time that the officer fled the scene of the crash to drop his kids off at his home nearby. He later failed a breathalyzer test.
Six months ago, the Delta Police Force, which includes Tsawwassen, recommended the Crown lay charges of impaired driving causing death and dangerous driving causing death. They took the unusual step of announcing their recommendation, citing the high profile of the case.
But in a statement Tuesday, the government said “available evidence does not establish to the criminal standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, that at the time of the collision Cpl. Robinson had a blood alcohol level over the legal limit, that his ability to operate a motor vehicle was impaired by alcohol, or that he was operating his vehicle in a dangerous manner…”
Court documents suggested Cpl. Robinson said, at the scene, he had walked to his nearby home after the crash, consumed the vodka, and returned.
In March, the B.C. Supreme Court rejected a petition by Cpl. Robinson that a 90-day driving suspension handed down in the case was unfair because his blood-alcohol content was affected by the vodka.
The crash came just over a year after Cpl. Robinson gave the order to fire a taser at Mr. Dziekanski, who died shortly after.
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Wow, this is ridiculous.

Moral of the story: Go ahead kids, drink and drive. Commit a hit and run, take a cab home, then come back saying:

"No way officer, I only had a few shots AFTER I left the scene of the crime :)"
 
meester_jamie said:
Court documents suggested Cpl. Robinson said, at the scene, he had walked to his nearby home after the crash, consumed the vodka, and returned.
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wow just wow speechless don't know what to say. He's an officer of the law and consumed alcohol after a fatal accident? If we average people hit a person and ran into the nearby bar for a drink would we get off the impaired driving charges?
 
Metastable said:
I think you are comparing apples to hub caps.

No one is saying he shouldn't have his day in court. What we are saying is that he should get it like anyone of us would. If he has a contract with his employer saying that he gets full pay, that's fine. However, it shouldn't take 60 days for him to go to trial since it is PUBLIC money that is paying for his vacation. I don't see why it should take more that a few days to get things sorted. It took forever to charge the guy, and then they go and charge him with a charge that will not stick. They charged him with DUI when they know very well he left the scene, so it won't stick. They COULD HAVE charged him with vehicular manslaughter, leaving the scene of a crime and dangerous driving. Those have a much better chance. I can't help to think that they DELAY things so much so that the public kinda forgets.
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I wish I had been wrong, but you could see this one coming from FAR away!
 
psycho44 said:
If we average people hit a person and ran into the nearby bar for a drink would we get off the impaired driving charges?
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Maybe.... and you can bet your last dollar that he knew it, and that was his first priority... establish doubt.

This man participted in the death of one person and was direclty involved with the death of another... and he is a lying sack of **** (http://www.straight.com/article-209...i-incident-i-was-mistaken-i-was-telling-truth)

Let me guess... suspended with pay?

Spread the word.

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