His is one thing... but his kids or wife, that is a tad over the top.
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RCMP Officer, drunk, kills motorcyclist, 21
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His is one thing... but his kids or wife, that is a tad over the top.
Another article on topic. Based on this article, the cops are doing their jobs (probably slow enough to give him a shot at 11b), but the Crown is covering it up.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...e-shifts-into-total-absurdity/article1386342/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...e-shifts-into-total-absurdity/article1386342/
BC's top cop also recommended suspension WITHOUT pay, but was overruled by a bureaucrat in Ottawa.
nope.. it has been done many times
in or around 1980,, and accident happened that blocked my way out of a parking lot.. I had to sit and wait for them to move a truck.. who had rear ended a small car.... and with my own eyes , I watched the truck driver walk back to his truck,, right as the cop pulled up.. he opened the door.. took out a beer and sucked it back, and then broke the bottle on the road.
WTF??? but a few minutes later thru conversations I overheard... he had done that to get off the impaired charge,, and got a other than residence charge. and that was back when impaired wasn't a big deal really..
Also.. I had an drunk cut me off.. zipped off the front of my truck.. and the side of his car... as he was trying to get into the bar.
He offered to call the cops ... he said. hey buddy,, wait here.. I'll go call the cops.... the guy couldnt walk straight! .... I watched him walk into the bar... and then come back.. cops arrive, and in my interview they ask if *I* had seen him go into the bar... which I said yes... and they looked at each other and me and said.. sorry.. we wanted to get him for impaired..
i had to go to civil court to get my money cause that guy knew the system and beat it all the way!
http://www.therecord.com/news/canad...-of-obstructing-justice-in-motorcyclist-death
[h=1]B.C. Mountie found guilty of obstructing justice in motorcyclist death[/h]
NEW WESTMINSTER, B.C. — The RCMP is seeking to dismiss a Mountie after a judge ruled Friday the officer was wilful and deliberate in his attempt to cover up his actions in connection to the death of a young motorcyclist.
Cpl. Monty Robinson’s cool and calm behaviour did not square with the veteran’s claim he unthinkingly gulped vodka to soothe his nerves following the October 2008 accident, the B.C. Supreme Court judge said in ruling him guilty of obstructing justice.
Robinson is same man who was the senior officer in charge during a deadly confrontation with Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver’s airport. Dziekanski died when was jolted several times with an RCMP Taser.
Judge Janice Dillon said Robinson was well-trained in the measures that could skew a drunk driving investigation and he executed those steps when he found himself amidst the wreck.
She found no credibility in the defence case that Robinson had developed a dependency on alcohol as a result of traumatic incidents on the job, including the Dziekanski incident a year earlier.
“A veteran off-duty police officer acting reasonably would not have behaved as Robinson did. This was not a simple error of judgment, mistake or inadvertence,” Dillon said in her judgment from the bench.
“Robinson’s act of drinking the vodka was, I conclude, wilfully designed to set up the defence that he had learned during his police training.”
Hours after the decision, RCMP Assistant Commissioner Norm Lipinski said the force is ordering an internal code of conduct investigation for obstructing justice with the aim of terminating Robinson’s position.
“This case highlights that police officers, like everyone else, are held to account for their actions,” Lipinski said.
The officer is currently suspended with pay.
Robinson was driving his children home from a Halloween party in October 2008 when he struck and killed motorcyclist Orion Hutchinson, 21, at a Delta, B.C., intersection, south of Vancouver.
The trial heard Robinson yelled for someone to call 911, gave his driver’s licence to a bystander and hurried his children two blocks home. The children brushed their teeth, settled into bed and then Robinson stopped at his bar to down two shots of booze.
Vodka was less than his favourite drink and he knew it has a less pungent odour, the judge said.
Robinson ran back to the scene, told an officer he was the driver she was seeking and reported consuming “a couple” beers earlier in the night as well as the more recent vodka.
“Which he knew was what he had to do,” Dillon said. “Robinson did not suggest that he was horrified by the event, overcome with high emotion or brutally stressed.”
At trial, the officer admitted he actually drank five beers at the party. He nonetheless said he was not concerned about getting behind the wheel with the kids in his Jeep.
He explained his swift departure from the scene as wanting to get his children away from it as soon as possible.
“His explanation of prioritization of his children is an inexplicable perversion in the circumstances,” Dillon said.
Court heard Robinson was an experienced officer who not only had dozens of extra courses under his belt, but was certified as an undercover agent and had passed multiple mental stress tests.
He was qualified to give breathalyzer exams.
The investigating officer had intended to recommend a charge of drunk driving, but went with the obstruction charge instead.
Outside court, the mother of the victim called for Robinson’s immediate firing and an internal investigation.
Judith Hutchinson said she is satisfied with the judge’s “strongly-worded” ruling.
“The thing that has disturbed me all the way along . . . is the calculating nature of this person, who definitely thought things through that always helped him to escape consequences of his lack of morals,” she told reporters.
Prosecution lawyer Kris Pechet said Robinson proved the heart of the Crown’s theory when he took the stand and showed his true intentions.
“By virtue of his specialized knowledge, which was proven, he must have known various information,” Pechet said.
“He had . . . no choice but to confirm that, because it was obvious from him having taken so much training and his experience as a police officer that he knew that information. It was pretty difficult for him to deny.”
Despite the conviction, Hutchinson said her grief and loss remain unchanged.
“This doesn’t bring my son back, but there is definitely a sense of satisfaction,” she said. “At this point forward we can go ahead knowing that he will be held accountable for his actions.”
Robinson still faces a perjury charge in connection to his testimony about the incident at the public inquiry looking into Dziekanski’s death.
He is also the subject of another code of conduct investigation facing allegations of disgraceful conduct for operating a motor vehicle while impaired, failing to remain at the scene and failing to render assistance.
A date for sentencing on the obstruction conviction is set to be fixed on April 4.
[h=1]B.C. Mountie found guilty of obstructing justice in motorcyclist death[/h]
NEW WESTMINSTER, B.C. — The RCMP is seeking to dismiss a Mountie after a judge ruled Friday the officer was wilful and deliberate in his attempt to cover up his actions in connection to the death of a young motorcyclist.
Cpl. Monty Robinson’s cool and calm behaviour did not square with the veteran’s claim he unthinkingly gulped vodka to soothe his nerves following the October 2008 accident, the B.C. Supreme Court judge said in ruling him guilty of obstructing justice.
Robinson is same man who was the senior officer in charge during a deadly confrontation with Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver’s airport. Dziekanski died when was jolted several times with an RCMP Taser.
Judge Janice Dillon said Robinson was well-trained in the measures that could skew a drunk driving investigation and he executed those steps when he found himself amidst the wreck.
She found no credibility in the defence case that Robinson had developed a dependency on alcohol as a result of traumatic incidents on the job, including the Dziekanski incident a year earlier.
“A veteran off-duty police officer acting reasonably would not have behaved as Robinson did. This was not a simple error of judgment, mistake or inadvertence,” Dillon said in her judgment from the bench.
“Robinson’s act of drinking the vodka was, I conclude, wilfully designed to set up the defence that he had learned during his police training.”
Hours after the decision, RCMP Assistant Commissioner Norm Lipinski said the force is ordering an internal code of conduct investigation for obstructing justice with the aim of terminating Robinson’s position.
“This case highlights that police officers, like everyone else, are held to account for their actions,” Lipinski said.
The officer is currently suspended with pay.
Robinson was driving his children home from a Halloween party in October 2008 when he struck and killed motorcyclist Orion Hutchinson, 21, at a Delta, B.C., intersection, south of Vancouver.
The trial heard Robinson yelled for someone to call 911, gave his driver’s licence to a bystander and hurried his children two blocks home. The children brushed their teeth, settled into bed and then Robinson stopped at his bar to down two shots of booze.
Vodka was less than his favourite drink and he knew it has a less pungent odour, the judge said.
Robinson ran back to the scene, told an officer he was the driver she was seeking and reported consuming “a couple” beers earlier in the night as well as the more recent vodka.
“Which he knew was what he had to do,” Dillon said. “Robinson did not suggest that he was horrified by the event, overcome with high emotion or brutally stressed.”
At trial, the officer admitted he actually drank five beers at the party. He nonetheless said he was not concerned about getting behind the wheel with the kids in his Jeep.
He explained his swift departure from the scene as wanting to get his children away from it as soon as possible.
“His explanation of prioritization of his children is an inexplicable perversion in the circumstances,” Dillon said.
Court heard Robinson was an experienced officer who not only had dozens of extra courses under his belt, but was certified as an undercover agent and had passed multiple mental stress tests.
He was qualified to give breathalyzer exams.
The investigating officer had intended to recommend a charge of drunk driving, but went with the obstruction charge instead.
Outside court, the mother of the victim called for Robinson’s immediate firing and an internal investigation.
Judith Hutchinson said she is satisfied with the judge’s “strongly-worded” ruling.
“The thing that has disturbed me all the way along . . . is the calculating nature of this person, who definitely thought things through that always helped him to escape consequences of his lack of morals,” she told reporters.
Prosecution lawyer Kris Pechet said Robinson proved the heart of the Crown’s theory when he took the stand and showed his true intentions.
“By virtue of his specialized knowledge, which was proven, he must have known various information,” Pechet said.
“He had . . . no choice but to confirm that, because it was obvious from him having taken so much training and his experience as a police officer that he knew that information. It was pretty difficult for him to deny.”
Despite the conviction, Hutchinson said her grief and loss remain unchanged.
“This doesn’t bring my son back, but there is definitely a sense of satisfaction,” she said. “At this point forward we can go ahead knowing that he will be held accountable for his actions.”
Robinson still faces a perjury charge in connection to his testimony about the incident at the public inquiry looking into Dziekanski’s death.
He is also the subject of another code of conduct investigation facing allegations of disgraceful conduct for operating a motor vehicle while impaired, failing to remain at the scene and failing to render assistance.
A date for sentencing on the obstruction conviction is set to be fixed on April 4.
freedomfighter
Well-known member
what i find funny is that 7 years ago when i can on this site complaning about how corrupt cops were. all i got was slammed and made fun of...
now look at us...
i told you so.
now look at us...
i told you so.
torontoZX6R
Well-known member
Still suspended with pay, till this very day?!?! Arghhh
freedomfighter
Well-known member
hes one for you.
i sat in on the sheldon cook trial.
so that clown makes 76g a year.
get charged in 2006 with having over 1/2 a mill $ of coke. sit on the payroll untill his trial in june of 2010 when he is convicted on all 8 charges. still gets a pay check untill oct of 2010. (thats the day he is led into the cells) to start serving his 5 y 8 month sentence
and the provence tried to take his house (were all the coke is stored) but is not alowed to do so.
at the end another cop hell out be strong bro....thats when i yelled out i hope you meet troy davis...
you should have seen the looks i got from the family and the cops.
i return with . what could you possably say to me.
kiwi
Well-known member
yep.
Now lets see those Ontario cops get convicted .. ie. Fake Stunt Driving tickets guy from Burlington/Oakvile amongst others..
kiwi
Well-known member
You speak "freedom-ese" very well,LOL
You have no idea of how many civil servants are being paid to sit and do nothing due to "circumstances".
Griffin
Well-known member
Pending the outcome of an investigation they have to pay salary. Think about it. If they didn't they would in effect be convicting the cop as soon as the investigation began. Everyone is entitled to due process (except American citizens that the President wants terminated, apparently, but I digress) and you can't stop a person's pay due to an allegation. And if they are accused of something that prohibits them from continuing in their regular position, what else can be done/
It sucks if the person is guilty but it's not surprising.
kiwi
Well-known member
Ah.. Thanks!!
OpenGambit
Banned
This is kind of epic. it made me laugh.
I understand the difference between allegation and guilty and yeah, it sucks. However, where were the managers, HR people, WSIB sorts, Ministry of Labour etc that should have been on top of this crap instead of letting it go on for years or decades?
In private industry they have to act on it or go belly up. The governments just add the costs to your tax bill.
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