Range Rover runs over several bikers
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You mean the attack that he caused.
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I am glad you asked let's review.
Just remember the Detective wanted to charge him with Manslaughter right away.
Zimmerman the adult with the gun was following a teenager on his way home to his house.
The 911 operator told him not to follow, he kept following the teenager.
All the adult had to say is hey kid, are you okay or I am neighborhood watch, where you headed to.
So who should be more afraid? The teenager walking home with skittles and ice tea or the Neighborhood Watch Guy with a gun under his jacket.
None of us was there from that point so we don't know how the altercation went down or what was said.
We do know one adult with a gun was told not to follow and in the end the teenager is dead.
It was interesting how they kinda made it seem like this happened in around 1am but the teenager was dead by 7:15pm (dinner time, dog walking time). It's a normal time for anyone to be out and walking about.
Here is the info from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
[h=4]February 26[/h]
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- At an unverified time, Trayvon Martin walks from the home where he is staying to a nearby 7-Eleven.[SUP][6][/SUP]
- 6:24:18 PM — As shown by a store CCTV, Martin purchases a bag of Skittles and an AriZona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail (often described in media and at protests as AriZona iced tea.)[SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][11][/SUP]
- 6:54 – 7:12 — Martin has an 18-minute cell phone call with a girl reported to be his girlfriend. The call gets disconnected.[SUP][10][/SUP][SUP][12][/SUP]
- 7:09:34 – 7:13:41 — George Zimmerman calls the Sanford Police Department (SPD) from his truck; total time of the call is 4 minutes 7 seconds.[SUP][13][/SUP]
- 7:11:33 — Zimmerman tells the police dispatcher that Trayvon Martin is running.
- 7:11:59 — In reply to the dispatcher's question, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman responds with, "Yes." Dispatcher: "OK, we don't need you to do that." Zimmerman: "OK."
- 7:12:00 – 7:12:59 — The girl calls Martin again at some point during this minute.[SUP][14][/SUP]
- 7:13:10 — Zimmerman says he does not know Martin's location.
- 7:13:41 — The end of Zimmerman's call to Sanford police.[SUP][14][/SUP]
- 7:16:00 – 7:16:59 — Martin's call from the girl goes dead during this minute.[SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP]
- 7:16:11 — First 911 call from witness about a fight, calls for help heard.[SUP][16][/SUP]
- 7:16:55 — Gunshot heard on 911 call.[SUP][17][/SUP]
- 7:17 — The first officer on the scene, Officer T. Smith arrives by squad car at Retreat View.[SUP][18][/SUP]
- 7:17:40+ — Officer Smith arrives at the crime scene.[SUP][19][/SUP]
- 7:19:07 — Photo taken of Zimmerman's head injuries by a civilian bystander.[SUP][20][/SUP]
- 7:19:43 — Officer Smith takes Zimmerman into custody.[SUP][19][/SUP]
- 7:25+ — Sanford police take a photo of George Zimmerman in a squad car.[SUP][21][/SUP]
- 7:30 — Trayvon Martin pronounced dead at the scene by paramedic.[SUP][18][/SUP]
- 7:40 — Sanford Fire Department treats Zimmerman for his injuries.[SUP][22][/SUP]
- 7:52 — Zimmerman's arrival at police station recorded on video.
- 10:30 — Martin's father and his fiancee return to the townhome, realize he is missing, are concerned, but think he may be with a cousin.[SUP][23][/SUP]
Did Treyvon do anything against the law that carries the death sentance?
Ya he attacked a guy and bounced his head off the pavement.
There are hours of testimony on youtube, i recommend you guys go watch the facts before making it a race thing.
D you're lost man...
Here's a fact too...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...jury-thought-George-Zimmerman-was-guilty.html
Yup...must be right then.
Sorry, if this was any state except for a "stand your ground" state Zimmerman would be behind bars.
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You keep glossing over step 1.
If the teenager was not being followed then there would be no altercation.
Dude, look in the mirror.
Ask yourself one simple thing. If the teenager was a female would people still believe the same thing.
Think about it, now a teen age girl is being followed by some strange guy who does not identify himself and after we find said guy has a gun. Where is her right to go some safely in the are she resides at 7:15pm? What gave Zimmerman the right to interfere with her travels. Where is her right to stand her ground?
I love how people keep glossing over step 1. Instead of following the teenager, Zimmerman should have followed the 911 operator telling him to stay in the car and NOT to follow. Once you start following someone, you are the pursuer/hunter and they are the target/hunted.
I rest my case on this. I ask anyone reasonable person to reread my scenario, all I did was change the male teenager to a female teenager. Everything else stays the same.
Life's irony, now Zimmerman is the hunted.
Anyways so simply following someone is reason enough to attack them?
Zimmerman didn't follow treyvon with gun in hand and guns blazing.
You need to think outside the box, put race aside, and take it step by step.
Zimmerman thinks treyvon is up to no good and follows him from a distance while at the same time calling 911. The operator telling him not to follow treyvon was not an order, and he did not need to follow it. He did not break any laws by continuing to follow him.
Now any logical person's reaction to someone following them would be to A) get away b) confront the person and ask them why they're following them or perhaps c)call the police.
Treyvon did not call the police, but instead confronted zimmerman, and instead of acting like a logical person and simply asking wtf, he decided to start a fight, gets on top of zimmerman and bounces his head off the pavement over and over again.
At this point zimmerman had every right to defend himself.
Exact same scenario with the suv driver in this thread. What turned out to be a minor altercation turns into a bunch of idiots slashing the tires of his car, damaging his car and then they cry like babies when the suv driver feels threatened and takes off.
You act like a fool you pay the price, sometimes with your life.
BTW if it was 2 white people instead of zimmerman and treyvon or 2 black people you'd never hear about it in the first place. But once ****** bag al sharpton and the like got involved its always about race. Poor innocent treyvon...
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i'm gonna agree with paul on this. Majority of people think Zimmerman is guilty but their not looking at the facts straight. His neighbourhood had several break-ins including an older lady who was also assaulted during one of the break-ins. He spent the time to take care of her and help fix her house. He then went and got some self-defence training, firearm training and joined the neighbourhood watch. Zimmerman aint some thug, he's an intelligent and educated man. He took the necessary actions when seeing a person in the back alley of the houses that he did not recognize(NOT THE SIDEWALK). Treyvon aint so innocent either. He was only there because he was visiting his father after getting a suspension from school for drug use and has been involved in fights. He was also at that present moment heading to the corner store to make Lean(cough syrup, skittles and watermelon cocktail) which is an over the counter drug essentially. Read into the case some more before jumping to conclusions
Bit of a difference here, the SUV driver had already experienced intimidation by the bikers and had a real and justified fear for his life based on immediately prior events. Zimmerman was following someone he suspected of commiting crimes (would he have followed the guy if he was white?) but who had not actually done anything illegal up to that point. Not sure about you but if someone is following me I generally take that as a hostile act if I have no clue who they are.
Good news though, as you side with Zimmerman because he had sufficient cause to escalate the situation purely from a suspicion point of view combined with a position of (pseudo) authority I'm guessing there will be no more 172 and "the po-pop stopped me on my bike for nothing" threads.
Good news though, as you side with Zimmerman because he had sufficient cause to escalate the situation purely from a suspicion point of view combined with a position of (pseudo) authority I'm guessing there will be no more 172 and "the po-pop stopped me on my bike for nothing" threads.
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Would you have attacked someone if they were watching you? Threw them to the ground and then while on top of them keep punching them in the face and bounce their head off the pavement?
This is what treyvon did, and this is not the reaction of a reasonable person. Mr treyvon escalated the situation from something simple to what it became...
Would he follow him if he was white? What difference does it make really? If everything happened exactly the same way and they were both white what would your argument be then?
People cannot see past race, they call everyone else racist but they are the biggest racists by not looking at the facts and simply taking a side based on race. The media and all the people who protested did exactly this.
Did you know that treyvon called zimmerman a "creepy *** cracker"?
Ofcourse not, cause very few people actually listened to the entire case which is up on youtube. Hours and hours of testimony, not media nonsense, but actual facts.
If george zimmerman called treyvon a creepy *** n***** there would be riots in the street.
BTW how do you compare 172 to the zimmerman case?
The guy was acting suspicious and he called the cops. Where did he break the law?
172 is a whole different story, police can stop you on suspicion of anything, however with 172 i believe the issue is seizure of property BEFORE and presumption of GUILT before ever having your day in court.
