bigpoppa
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hm... anywhere where i can find this weight for all bikes? If it really is 353 lbs for R3 i might have trouble doing 2 up? Despite what people who have done so successfully on it?
R3 vs Sv650 (and do looks matter?)
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PLau
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Seen the aftermath of a "big person" borrowing a cbr125 to ride around a parking lot...
Suspension was dead - was replaced..
Drennan57
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Love the SV with the fairing kit. Makes a huge difference.
An on the whole "small bikes are better because you can use more of its potential", that argument is fine for weekend riders and city commuting but there is also a negative side to that. These little bikes have to "work harder" to do everything as well. Just keeping up with traffic on the highway is using 75% of it's abilities while a big bike is hanging out at 30% all day without breaking a sweat.
I have both a 300 an a 600 and I wouldn't even think twice about taking my 6 for the majority of riding scenario's.
It's like choosing a Honda Civic over a Corvette. Sure the Civic is fun to thrash around but the difference in available performance isn't even comparable.
bigpoppa
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what? lol how do you determine if a suspension is 'dead'... does it just not spring back up after the weight has been lifted?
Also how big was this person riding around on a 125 in a parking lot? Lol
I've found many examples of big guys riding 300s, on highways, in cities, across country with no problems
Drennan57
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So you bought a bike? Post a picture so we can check it out.
PLau
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It was my bros bike, and from what I remember, it didn't spring back up and made clunking noises. Can't remember the details as it was a couple years ago, but I think something snapped.
Brian P's old '07 CBR125 xD
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bigpoppa
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Riceburner
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All Yamaha owner's manuals:
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/motorsports/owners-manuals
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/motorsports/owners-manuals
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Yes I am.
My r3 has a set of racetech springs and heavier oil up front, and the read pre load is set in its 6th position.
My sag is fine, it squats a little more than it should in the read when I ride two up (2.3 inches vs the recommended 1.5)
As I said, the bike is very capable of riding 2up but don't expect mamoth amounts of power and you will need a few more revs at launch. Nothing bike.
As far as commuting.
The r3 will sit at 85mph all day long getting fantastic gas mileage while doing so. In fact on the highway the low end buzzieness goes away at around 6500rpm and smooths right out (the r3 is an off set parallell twin unlike the ninjette)
To the guy who owns the fz6r.... Have you ever ridden an r3 for any long period of time? If you had you would realize that it would have no issues with any usage that the ride would throw at it. And considering its only 20hp less than your 600 it's not exactly a toad either.
OP I would listen to the guy who IS your size and has ridden the r3 now for 2000+ kms as well as sv650s/inline 4s/v4s/etc...
You would have to make the same mods to the sv as the r3 suspension wise and frankly the paralell twin is faaaar smoother at highway speed than a vtwin is. Thanks to its fireing order.
Yes but your insurance is higher, gas consumption is higher, comfort is lower, all for what? So you can memorize the owners manual as to how many ponies it has?
You're a very green rider...your posts say that about you.
Maybe chime in after a few years of riding on a few different motorcycles.
Right now you THINK your fz6 is fast...its not by any stretch (even compare to its class rivals) and the perfect bike...but to eachs own.
Cruising on the highway at 120 both the sv, fz, r3 are all easily capable...but the r3 won't have to stop for fuel as much
Yes but your insurance is higher, gas consumption is higher, comfort is lower, all for what? So you can memorize the owners manual as to how many ponies it has?
You're a very green rider...your posts say that about you.
Maybe chime in after a few years of riding on a few different motorcycles.
Right now you THINK your fz6 is fast...its not by any stretch (even compare to its class rivals) and the perfect bike...but to eachs own.
Cruising on the highway at 120 both the sv, fz, r3 are all easily capable...but the r3 won't have to stop for fuel as much
Personally riding isnt about numbers like gas or even insurance to a degree, its all about ENJOY-ABILITY. I dont care if I save a few bucks on gas on an r3 if the style of riding I plan on doing is turned less enjoyable by the bike. Is it capable of being on the highway all day long and going 2 up, sure. Did I enjoy doing it, not even close.
bigpoppa
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IT is a fun bike, but fun at what its more or less made to do. Same as a drz, those are some of the most fun bikes around town and in twisties, but would i ever want to do touring on it or go 2 up for very long. **** no.
I did 800kms on the r3 in one day...and frankly I get tired DRIVING 800kms in one day...so it's not bad at all.
And if all of us could afford multiple bikes we would but sadly most cant. And we have to compromise on things. The r3 is sporty enough to surprise you in the twisties, slap a set of saddle bags and drive to new Orleans, and doesn't hit you in the pocket book for insurance nor gas....
bigpoppa
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OP
I have ridden for over 31 years on the street. Everything from a modern 250 to 1200 cc. I started on a 1979 400 cc.
Get the R3 and learn to ride. I would think that your times requiring 2 up are few and far between. It may not be the best option at those times but you will manage it.
Learn to ride. Ride with friends. Ride within your abilities. Save money. Figure out if this hobby is for you.
Ride a bike when you are learning that is less likely to be a liability to your learning process.
I have ridden for over 31 years on the street. Everything from a modern 250 to 1200 cc. I started on a 1979 400 cc.
Get the R3 and learn to ride. I would think that your times requiring 2 up are few and far between. It may not be the best option at those times but you will manage it.
Learn to ride. Ride with friends. Ride within your abilities. Save money. Figure out if this hobby is for you.
Ride a bike when you are learning that is less likely to be a liability to your learning process.
bigpoppa
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Only 2 sellings points for me for the R3,
Saving money(Cost of bike, insurance,gas) , and Fun!(Which it seems to posses in abundance)
Anything else is a bonus
Drennan57
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Yes but your insurance is higher, gas consumption is higher, comfort is lower, all for what? So you can memorize the owners manual as to how many ponies it has?
You're a very green rider...your posts say that about you.
Maybe chime in after a few years of riding on a few different motorcycles.
Right now you THINK your fz6 is fast...its not by any stretch (even compare to its class rivals) and the perfect bike...but to eachs own.
Cruising on the highway at 120 both the sv, fz, r3 are all easily capable...but the r3 won't have to stop for fuel as much
You actually believe a 300 is more comfortable then a 600cc sport touring mount? My F4I was more comfortable to me then any of the 300's. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
If you are going to fabricate uneducated opinions to feed your argument do it with someone who hasn't ridden all of these bikes and has both sitting in his garage right now.
