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dragonrider said:
This election result proves only one thing: there are more parasites and freeloaders in Ontario population than we all want to believe. From this perspective, democracy really sucks as it gives leeches and liability of a society equal political right as to producers and contributors of the society. If two leeches vote to raise tax to bleed a producer so they can suck on it, you know what, the producer will be the minority. Get ready to weather the choppy economic ride ahead of us. The worst is that our children may have to pay for our mess in the future. This is a completely ****** situation.
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Are you kidding? This is how the government keeps its votes: the libs bankroll the public workers at 30%+ over the private wage, hire a pile of them to make the people dependent on the government and make damned sure that everyone in line for the ca$h knows which party is their friend. When you've got over a million people in public jobs in Ontario alone, surely you can see how this is going to go? On top of that most people in the 45+ year old group swallowed all the kool-aid and believe that the government is their lord and master, and shall provide.

You'd have to be blind not to see that Ontario was going to vote liberal... Hudak wanted to get rid of the flotsam... can't have that. Wanna bet that the OPP give themselves a nice raise next year again and Wynne is going to say "well it's regrettable and the unforseen circumstances mean we're just going to have to change the budget..." and give them what they want? The libs know what side their bread is buttered on.

Ontario's hopeless.
 
kwtoxman said:
Some spin here, but read through it. It seems major issues made no difference to Ontario voters (e.g., gas plant and other multiple billion dollar scandals).

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...win-over-voters-too-bad-voters-arent-logical/
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Interesting article. Just the same I think this election proves that Ontario does not want Neo-Con/Reform type of Conservativism. Hudak was more of a Mike Harris/Reform and too far right. We need the PCs to go back to being "Progressive" and move to just right of centre. John Tory might have been able to do this.

How interesting that Ontario elects a Liberal government with a Lesbian as a leader and down in the U.S. Cantor -a prominent Republican- lost to a relatively unknown Tea Party candidate:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/11/us-usa-elections-cantor-idUSKBN0EM00H20140611

It is up to Kathleen Wynne now to make her own legacy. I sincerely hope they reign in their spending a bit now that they do not have to rely on NDP support to stay in power. If they would move slightly to the right and get their spending in check they might, just might, do a decent job for us.
 
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The whole election and democracy system is corrupt.

1)Unions are a legal way of buying illegal votes
2)the ever growing public work force is the spearhead of the whole racket

At this rate unless every none union worker is educated about the racket and comes out to vote... There is no way to over throw this set up,


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Look up Zimbabwe and the Weimar Republic.

cbcanada said:
The whole election and democracy system is corrupt.

1)Unions are a legal way of buying illegal votes
2)the ever growing public work force is the spearhead of the whole racket

At this rate unless every none union worker is educated about the racket and comes out to vote... There is no way to over throw this set up,


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
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People; this isn't about union 'vote buying' or public workers coming out en masse, to somehow foil democracy. It's not about some basic failing of democracy because of some nebulous 'corruption.' If that was the case, if it EVER was the case, then we would have been right back where we were prior to the election. What this was, was a resounding refusal of Ontario to buy into the American style neo-conservative agenda. The election was Hudak's to lose and that's exactly what he did. If he had stuck to the traditional Progressive Conservative centre-right ideals he would have walked away with this election. Instead he talked about a slash and burn style of government, that simply isn't palatable to the majority of people in this Province.

In fact it's not palatable to people like me, who are centre-right by nature, and would be the natural supporters of the Progressive Conservative Party. Hard core conservative friends have been asking me about the mechanics of declining their ballots because while they could not support the Liberals and would never think of voting NDP, they simply could not buy into Hudak's politics. I voted for Harris and I couldn't vote for Hudak.

So please just get over it. The PC Party of Ontario did this to themselves. They made themselves irrelevant by acting like petulant children and refusing to work with a minority government, when they could have negotiated to have some of their views heard. They failed to garner support for a style of government that might have traction in the United States, but We. Are. Canadian. They failed at the basic concept of presenting a reasonable alternative to a government that is currently under criminal investigation.

Choose your champions wisely.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
People; this isn't about union 'vote buying' or public workers coming out en masse, to somehow foil democracy. It's not about some basic failing of democracy because of some nebulous 'corruption.' If that was the case, if it EVER was the case, then we would have been right back where we were prior to the election. What this was, was a resounding refusal of Ontario to buy into the American style neo-conservative agenda. The election was Hudak's to lose and that's exactly what he did. If he had stuck to the traditional Progressive Conservative centre-right ideals he would have walked away with this election. Instead he talked about a slash and burn style of government, that simply isn't palatable to the majority of people in this Province.

In fact it's not palatable to people like me, who are centre-right by nature, and would be the natural supporters of the Progressive Conservative Party. Hard core conservative friends have been asking me about the mechanics of declining their ballots because while they could not support the Liberals and would never think of voting NDP, they simply could not buy into Hudak's politics. I voted for Harris and I couldn't vote for Hudak.

So please just get over it. The PC Party of Ontario did this to themselves. They made themselves irrelevant by acting like petulant children and refusing to work with a minority government, when they could have negotiated to have some of their views heard. They failed to garner support for a style of government that might have traction in the United States, but We. Are. Canadian. They failed at the basic concept of presenting a reasonable alternative to a government that is currently under criminal investigation.

Choose your champions wisely.
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Yep, I would have voted for a moderate conservative choice. Prolly a good chunk of ON would have.




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I guess meteorologist moved to #2 in how much you can screw up and keep your job. How the **** did the libs win...?


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peterm15 said:
10.25 for me. And I still need to keep my personal liability insurance. They wont give me anything if I get injured.
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Hi Peterm15, if you haven't already done this I would like to ask you to please consider writing (or going to meet) your representative. Explain it exactly as you have to us, that you are compelled to pay money that you cannot ever be the recipient of and that it is damaging your business and could they please help? Either to allow you to receive if you are unfortunately injured or to create a waiver exemption for those who can't receive from having to pay for themselves. It sounds reasonable your request.. Please try talking to them, you may need to follow up a few times.
 
Has there been any reporting on the number of declined ballots?
 
Schneller said:
Has there been any reporting on the number of declined ballots?
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Not that I've seen but one friend, who asked to decline his ballot in Burlington, was incorrectly told to just stuff it in the ballot box. This means it will just be counted as spoiled.

Apparently some returning officers simply don't care about voters' rights, or have not been properly instructed. I would go with the former, rather than the latter, as it takes less than 30 seconds for them to consult a book and find out what is supposed to be done.
 
Zoodles95 said:
How interesting that Ontario elects a Liberal government with a Lesbian as a leader and down in the U.S. Cantor -a prominent Republican- lost to a relatively unknown Tea Party candidate:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/11/us-usa-elections-cantor-idUSKBN0EM00H20140611
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Something completely missing from the URL and which may have been a relevant factor is the fact that the guy who beat Cantor is the actor who played mechanic Cooter Davenport on the 70s tv show "The Dukes of Hazzard". (I loved that show as a kid.)

Jesse Ventura the wrestler was Governor of Michigan. Arnold Schwarzenegger the movie actor Governor of California and other examples exist. Americans have a history of voting celebrities.

I suppose in Canada it would be Wendel Clark.
 
daught said:
I guess meteorologist moved to #2 in how much you can screw up and keep your job. How the **** did the libs win...?


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I admit I just lol'd. So true. You get ****** no matter who wins but it's astonishing these idiots were voted back in yet again. Welcome to onterrible, the toilet bowl of canadia
 
Rob MacLennan said:
So please just get over it. The PC Party of Ontario did this to themselves. They made themselves irrelevant by acting like petulant children and refusing to work with a minority government, when they could have negotiated to have some of their views heard. They failed to garner support for a style of government that might have traction in the United States, but We. Are. Canadian. They failed at the basic concept of presenting a reasonable alternative to a government that is currently under criminal investigation.
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I'm center-right but I couldn't support the PC Party of Ontario. Give me a reasonable tory alternative that I could support I would have voted for them. But I couldn't support the tea party lite/shades of reform that the PC's have turned into.
 
That's the funny part. The Liberals addmitted that they ARE going increase taxes. Yet the morons in Ontario voted for these idiots. Talked about living in ZombieLand.


peterm15 said:
10.25 for me. And I still need to keep my personal liability insurance. They wont give me anything if I get injured.

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BLUE_KAWI said:
That's the funny part. The Liberals addmitted that they ARE going increase taxes. Yet the morons in Ontario voted for these idiots. Talked about living in ZombieLand.
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... and the NDP were going to raise taxes.

... and the PCs were going to make it possible for an employer to fire you, without cause, and put 100K people out of work.

We were given the South Park mascot choice, this time around. No one was stupid, except maybe the politicians.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
People; this isn't about union 'vote buying' or public workers coming out en masse, to somehow foil democracy. It's not about some basic failing of democracy because of some nebulous 'corruption.' If that was the case, if it EVER was the case, then we would have been right back where we were prior to the election. What this was, was a resounding refusal of Ontario to buy into the American style neo-conservative agenda. The election was Hudak's to lose and that's exactly what he did. If he had stuck to the traditional Progressive Conservative centre-right ideals he would have walked away with this election. Instead he talked about a slash and burn style of government, that simply isn't palatable to the majority of people in this Province.

In fact it's not palatable to people like me, who are centre-right by nature, and would be the natural supporters of the Progressive Conservative Party. Hard core conservative friends have been asking me about the mechanics of declining their ballots because while they could not support the Liberals and would never think of voting NDP, they simply could not buy into Hudak's politics. I voted for Harris and I couldn't vote for Hudak.

So please just get over it. The PC Party of Ontario did this to themselves. They made themselves irrelevant by acting like petulant children and refusing to work with a minority government, when they could have negotiated to have some of their views heard. They failed to garner support for a style of government that might have traction in the United States, but We. Are. Canadian. They failed at the basic concept of presenting a reasonable alternative to a government that is currently under criminal investigation.

Choose your champions wisely.
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^ This
 
Lol Doug Ford:

"Doug Ford on if he'd run for PCs: "I’d never rule it out. But I’ll tell you one thing, I’d give that PC party an enema from top to bottom.”"
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