I have also answered that question previously. My current decision is to formally decline my ballot.
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I have also answered that question previously. My current decision is to formally decline my ballot.
I guess I will go back and read what that will accomplish except from putting others in power of the decision, but maybe ot does accomplish something, not sure. I know I want to vote and decide on a candidate
Edit: I see, it is a way to waste a vote and trow a little fit that no one will care or notice while leaving the extremes of both sides making the decision on who will govern! OK your vote! your choice!
http://metronews.ca/news/canada/105...rio-election-decline-your-vote-says-activist/
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I think whatever party forms the government, that they should support small businesses with tax reduction incentives and employee subsidies, rather than the large multinational corporations. Small businesses are more invested in the local economy and are more driven to succeed in ontario communities because they don't have the option of moving their production to a branch in the US or offshore like the multinationals. Profits generated by small businesses are more likely to be spent in their communities because we're not talking about foreign investors/shareholders.
The reason this hasn't happened and isn't likely is that these small businesses dont have the same influence on government because they can't employ the lobbyists that large corporations can and do, to schmooze (party with and pay off) the politicians making these decisions.
The reason this hasn't happened and isn't likely is that these small businesses dont have the same influence on government because they can't employ the lobbyists that large corporations can and do, to schmooze (party with and pay off) the politicians making these decisions.
They should also give us small business a reduction in taxes and fees/insurances.
I'm on the verge of shutting my 2 man company down just because I cant keep up with being legit.
The mandatory WSIB alone had screwed me. Its a minor cost but imagine being told I MUST pay it BUT they wont give me any money if I get injured. So I still need to keep my personal insurance. Its an extra 4-10k a year I didnt need. (Not including my personal insurance)
On top of that, my business personal insurance doesn't cover me if im on my bike or in my personal car. (Tag on an extra few bucks in life and injury insurance)
Just to be a legitimate company it costs me over 1k/mnth in insurance alone.
Then my cost of materials have increased by 200% in the last 2 years because of importation fees ect.
In my line of work for every legit company there is 10 that arent. When they save at MINIMUM 1K/mnth how much cheaper are they. ALOT!
I'm speaking purely from a business owner standpoint. Not even taking into account my house and stuff.
The liberals have screwed the lot of us. As my costs must be passed onto you. The cost of doing business in Ontario now is outrageous.
I'll go back to wsib.
You, the homeowner does not have wsib, which means I shouldn't have to pay it for you. But I do, because I do work for another contractor. I do work for 1, yes 1 construction company, I must pay 10.2cents on every dollar I make for all of my invoices. But yet they wont give me a dime if I get injured on the job. So I now must pay for my own insurance in case I do get hurt. The wonderful nanny progress that our liberal government has made.
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I'm on the verge of shutting my 2 man company down just because I cant keep up with being legit.
The mandatory WSIB alone had screwed me. Its a minor cost but imagine being told I MUST pay it BUT they wont give me any money if I get injured. So I still need to keep my personal insurance. Its an extra 4-10k a year I didnt need. (Not including my personal insurance)
On top of that, my business personal insurance doesn't cover me if im on my bike or in my personal car. (Tag on an extra few bucks in life and injury insurance)
Just to be a legitimate company it costs me over 1k/mnth in insurance alone.
Then my cost of materials have increased by 200% in the last 2 years because of importation fees ect.
In my line of work for every legit company there is 10 that arent. When they save at MINIMUM 1K/mnth how much cheaper are they. ALOT!
I'm speaking purely from a business owner standpoint. Not even taking into account my house and stuff.
The liberals have screwed the lot of us. As my costs must be passed onto you. The cost of doing business in Ontario now is outrageous.
I'll go back to wsib.
You, the homeowner does not have wsib, which means I shouldn't have to pay it for you. But I do, because I do work for another contractor. I do work for 1, yes 1 construction company, I must pay 10.2cents on every dollar I make for all of my invoices. But yet they wont give me a dime if I get injured on the job. So I now must pay for my own insurance in case I do get hurt. The wonderful nanny progress that our liberal government has made.
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dragonrider
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Spoiling ballot is not the best action here esp. The priority here is kick out libs.
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dragonrider
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Or: Anybody but Hudak.
We will see what stunt Ontario voters will pull this time. whatever happens, we deserve it
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I've given up on playing the short game. This election is lost no matter who wins, so I'm playing the long game.
It is not a 'spoiled ballot.'
Just watched the debate via youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0H7VBeYxbw
Hudak did okay, Wynne got picked apart, and Horwath acquitted herself quite well.
Leaning towards NDP right now. Their move towards the centre makes them palatable for me.
Edit: Meant to post my disdain/frustration with Wynne's Provincial Pension Plan. Uh, yeah... Business and working people really need another "contribution" to have to make. We have RRSPs, TFSAs, and a federal retirement plan already. This alone makes me say "NO" to the Liberals. They lost me many years ago with the "Health Care Premium" which as far as I know ends up in general revenue. No new taxes Dalton said. Them the "Health Care Premium" came in. They lost me then and I have not voted for them since.
The thought of another Liberal government in Ontario is enough to make me lose sleep...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0H7VBeYxbw
Hudak did okay, Wynne got picked apart, and Horwath acquitted herself quite well.
Leaning towards NDP right now. Their move towards the centre makes them palatable for me.
Edit: Meant to post my disdain/frustration with Wynne's Provincial Pension Plan. Uh, yeah... Business and working people really need another "contribution" to have to make. We have RRSPs, TFSAs, and a federal retirement plan already. This alone makes me say "NO" to the Liberals. They lost me many years ago with the "Health Care Premium" which as far as I know ends up in general revenue. No new taxes Dalton said. Them the "Health Care Premium" came in. They lost me then and I have not voted for them since.
The thought of another Liberal government in Ontario is enough to make me lose sleep...
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The thought of another Liberal government in Ontario is enough to make me lose sleep...
Buy some Prozac. The last poll had them in the lead.
That's your opinion not mine. Pls respect it as much as others respect your vote even though it doesn't make any sense to them .... that's why there are options during elections.
eljay
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We are going to lose private and government jobs even if the Liberals stay in power. The debt the Liberals racked up is huge.
Or: Anybody but Hudak.
Stephen W.
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Or: Anybody but Hudak.
Really? I mean REALLY, you'd pick Wynne over Hudak?
Here, see if you can get your head around this. Forget EHealth, Ornge Air, MaRS or any of the other scandals. Lets just look at the billion dollars that Wynne admits was wasted taxpayers money. That equals $73,855 for each and every one of the 13.54 million people living in Ontario as of 2013. I don't know about you but I'd love for the government to hand the wife and myself nearly $148,000. Instead, they'll be asking us to pay that amount to them in one way or another.
Your statement should read, anyone but Wynne!
When you put as simply as that, you surely are correct.
But things are never simple .... there is no way to tell whether 2 or 3bil. of bucks worth of activities the LIB's mishandled might not look like a chubby change after TH is done with the province. Every government has ability to waste money, no party would be or will be perfect. This is how average voters approach it and sadly PC is not offering much beyond the promise that there will not be any big financial fiasco and that the deficit will be gone two years ahead of time. People are simply willing to trade other things for billions down the drain.
If PC had a credible plan (addressing not just debt) and leader it would be a slam dunk choice wouldn't it?
1,000,000,000 divided by 13,500,000 = $74.00 unless you're Hudak. Multiply by 300 if you want a clean slate.
I don't want to vote Lib because they haven't convinced me they have put safeguards into place to prevent a recurrence of their blunders.
I don't want to vote PC because Hudaks math is a BS job. If that's the stuff he's proud of extolling how bad is the stuff he intends to do that he isn't telling us?
I don't want to vote NDP because their head office is on another planet and their local candidate is a money grubbing cocky civil servant.
Voting Green is somewhat akin to declining. Won't accomplish much other than letting the big 3 that I can make an X.
