The added cost of delivering the booze to all these new retailers alone will drive up costs. I quit smokes...most my boozing....freakin ridiculous expense anyways.
Privatize LCBO
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ItIsWhatItIs
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You must benefit from this somehow. I was at a costco in Florida, and I could have bought a 60 ouncer of Vodka for 15 dollars (easily 80 dollars in ontario) A case of heinekin at Costco was 24 dollars, here in ontario 48. Overpaying is ludicrous. Out of principal everyone in Ontario should go to the US stock up on the alcohol they think they need for a year. When crossing back into Canada do so in Quebec. If caught, pay the duty whatever it is, and then come back into Ontario. Doing this will make sure Ontario doesn't get a dime of any duty collected.
ItIsWhatItIs
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In the US a pack of smokes is about $3 to $3.50.
It's all about huge tax and bigger market better price. Screw them...if you wanna pay...play at the casino's, play the lottery...smoke them smokes...and drink that booze and cry. Drove the price far too much up verse the pleasure for me. Really don't miss any of it.
ItIsWhatItIs
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It's the MADD Canada effect, somehow they have established a grip on Ontario society which needs ot broken. What's next is a tax on birth control and condoms. I guess when that happens you will do without as well.
What some people aren't realizing is that Ontario gets money from the taxes on booze in addition to the profits that the lcbo makes on the product. Wholesale cost of booze + profit + tax = what we pay
I can't complain about the hours of lcbo or the number of outlets,
I can't complain about the hours of lcbo or the number of outlets,
100%...exactly. Only those consumed with alcohol worry about such silly things.
Motorcycle Mike
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Yeah, because everyone lives your life and keeps your schedule, right?
So night shift workers must be 'consumed with alcohol' if they want to buy beer at 8am when they finish their shift? How about those on the afternoon shift who sometimes have to work 12 hour shifts (10 to 10, for example) -- I guess they shouldn't be able to buy beer during the week because you and cruisergirl are happy with the hours your gracious government has granted for you to buy alcohol.
I have worked late shift, I would plan ahead... I used to keep beer in the fridge, and privatization wouldn't make booze available 24/7, look at Quebec and Alberta they still have restrictions on when booze can be sold (can't buy beer or wine in the corner store after 10pm). Even parts of the USA, I say parts because I don't know of any that allow booze 24/7 but booze is controlled state to state or even county to county (there are some dry counties where you are not allowed to buy or have booze at all). Our beer distribution is privatized and has fewer outlets and worse hours than the lcbo (I believe some lcbo stores are open to 11 pm certain nights depending on the time of year).
How hard is it to buy your booze on the way to work?
Tim hudyak admits its not about price
http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/466564/alcohol-proposal-about-convenience-not-prices-hudak-says/
http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/466564/alcohol-proposal-about-convenience-not-prices-hudak-says/
He's also talking about how expensive those stores are... Newsflash: Even with the expense, they're bringing in a buttload of cash to the province that could use more of it since we shipped out our industry to China and services to India!!!
Yeah, LCBO is a great replacement for heavy industry that was outsourced to Asia.
Just because it doesn't replace all the jobs lost doesn't mean that we should kill them too.
Doesn't matter how expensive the stores are as long as the stores are paying for it on their dime. Lets do the math... Money the governmen gets from the lcbo... billions.... Money the government gives the lcbo... Wait for it.... ZERO!
Why does Tim hudyak hate Ontario and ontarians so much? Whose greasing his pockets to sell off the lcbo
^ I think maybe Hudak is taking a page from Ford's campaign/Mayoral style i.e. populist sloganeering that doesn't have much real thought or planning behind it.
I guess in this case the point is - why does Ontario have to control alcohol so strictly? Most developed countries (provinces, states) do not do it. A simple answer is that LCBO is just a money cow for this cash-strapped provincial government. But is it right for the provincial government to do so? They can easily continue to tax alcohol at the same rate as now or even higher, but let other companies (i.e. grocery stores or corner stores) to sell alcohol.
According to LCBO website (http://www.lcbo.com/aboutlcbo/media_centre/quick_facts.shtml), there are about 3,700 full-time employees working at LCBO. So if it is about keeping people employed, why not sell LCBO to the private company? This way LCBO will be privatized, alcohol will still be heavily taxed, no people will lose their jobs, province will get a one-time load of money from the sale.
People will work for less money and worse benefits, having less disposable income that goes right back into the economy and the one-time load of money won't make up for the lost revenues from the business. Selling a successful cash cow when the province is strapped for cash is just bad fiscal policy. If we're to expect that from the Conservatives, what else are they bringing to the table?
As a consumer, I want more choices, not a strictly regulated product for NO VALID REASON. As for people working for less money / worse benefits, don't get me started on some unionized salaries.
Motorcycle Mike
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Pretty hard when the store isn't open.
Both the Beer Store and LCBO near me are 10 to 10, and for the past three weeks I have been working 10 to 10.
On one hand the government is in the booze business and reaping billions from it, on the other hand they are claiming that alcohol abuse is a problem and must be controlled with high prices and limited hours. Talk about hypocritical. That would be like Mc D's going on an anti-obesity campaign.
My government has no business in the booze business (nor the gambling business either). Government should be small, simple, and efficient.
Most here are stuck on one model that they think is best because that is what they know best. I am not saying Hudak has the best plan, but with proper analysis there could be a model which is less restrictive, out of government hands, and nets an even larger profit. But as I stated before, I guess a lot of you are happy with the control Big Daddy Government has over you. I am not.
