Paris Attack

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Holy crap what have you done?? Now they're gonna want to lob off your head
 


This is buried in the comment section of that link from someone named Joe Denney:

"A satirist makes fun of you for being violent, backward, and hypersensitive, and your response is to kill people and set things on fire?"


That kind of sums it up...

Oh... And the ones who made and published the contentious cartoons are atheists; yet they burn Christian churches? WTF?
 
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I guess it's ok to throw some money Nike's way and put some pumped up kicks on the new recruits

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With all of this bad press they need some PR help STAT!

Time to bring back Little Mosque On The Prairie. Syndicate that to the hilt and maybe make a movie ala Corner Gas. Muslims need to show their sweet and cuddly side.
 
And moderate Muslims need to express their outrage of the Islamic fanatics. The degree to which it has been heard/reported so far, is underwhelming and inadequate. Disconcerting, in fact. Moderate Muslims need to be a large part of the solution, IMO.
 
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And moderate Muslims need to express their outrage of the Islamic fanatics. The degree to which it has been heard so far is underwhelming and inadequate. Disconcerting, in fact. Moderate Muslims must be a large part of the solution, IMO.

What people fail to recognize is that more than likely there are very few moderates but rather only silent ones who are happy to say and do nothing under the label of moderate
 
What people fail to recognize is that more than likely there are very few moderates but rather only silent ones who are happy to say and do nothing under the label of moderate

It certainly would be interesting to know, beyond mere conjecture, where those quiet ones stand. For sure there is a whole spectrum from completely outraged to militant. What the distribution along the spectrum is, is interesting.
 
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If a moderate were to speak out, or even something more than a moderate (a convert??).. What would prevent the terrorists from hunting that person down and killing them. So as to prevent them from existing? I really believe that ANY open opposition will end in that persons death, or ruination. It would be a personalized version of the Paris attack. IMHO.
 
If a moderate were to speak out, or even something more than a moderate (a convert??).. What would prevent the terrorists from hunting that person down and killing them. So as to prevent them from existing? I really believe that ANY open opposition will end in that persons death, or ruination. It would be a personalized version of the Paris attack. IMHO.

So the terrorists have subjugated an entire religion?
 
So the terrorists have subjugated an entire religion?

I wouldn't call it subjugation. More like living in a circumstance that realistically cannot be changed in 1 lifetime. Everyone only gets one play through in life. Why waste it trying to fight retards who have nothing to do with them? Most peaceful people who do not share an ideology with some phsycos will more than likely be more worried about dinner, and the kids, and paying bills than trying to start a movement in a part of the world where that kind of thing usually ends in death. If it does end in death then whoes going to worry about the kids? the money? the bills? This is an intricate and complicated issue. The part of the world you are wanting action from DOES NOT think the same way as we do. They are different. They think, act, and live differently. Their economies are affected by ours, their land sometimes even. There are so many factors that saying "So the terrorists have subjugated an entire religion?" ignores so much of their reality, and how much of an impact what we do has on them. Like going to Iraq. I talk to marines that say that **** was wrong. Actually if you talk to actual military they don't "hate" those people as much as some civilians do. I feel bad for their inability to make an impact. Those regions are VERY tribal. I only have moderate experience (10 years) dealing with locals from that part of the world.

Just my opinion..

Moderates have to do more than just say they disapprove. The extremists don't act on their own, they have help from others. It's time for that to be nipped in the bud. I feel the same way about "moderates" that say nothing as I do about police that don't stop other police from abusing their powers.

I agree. I think social media could be used as a powerful tool for this.
 
So the terrorists have subjugated an entire religion?

Maybe... Maybe not...

An interesting article here:


http://www.therecord.com/opinion-st...e-has-clear-objective-sophisticated-strategy/

A few gems from the article:

-"It is spreading a positive and powerful political message in the Muslim world — the return of the Caliphate associated with happier and richer times."

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"Under the religious veneer and the terrorist tactics lies a political and military machine fully engaged in nation-building, seeking consensus after territorial conquests. Residents of enclaves controlled by the Caliphate affirm improvements in day-to-day living from fixing holes in roads to organizing soup kitchens."

-"The Islamic State wants to be for Muslims what Israel is for Jews, a state in their ancient land that they have reclaimed in modern times ... something to be proud of."

-(Incidentally, the German journalist Jurgen Todenhofer, who spent 10 days inside the Islamic State's territory, reports that officials there "envisage the elimination of hundreds of millions, even billions, of people.")

I find it interesting the comment about the roads getting repaired etc. The Nazis did a good job getting public works going and the buses running on time. What is up with these people and wanting less freedom? What a fricken mess!
 
sometimes you leave things alone and let it sort itself

we should focus on ensuring our home stays positive and clear and reflect our collective wants/desires of a nation
 
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