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Sorry Shahfaisal but, your posts are full of bs. Terrorist will always find reasons to take the actions they do. They were not provoked by anyone and it's not the responsibility of everyone else to pander to them.

I maybe offended or dislike your posts. Does that mean you shouldn't express them if it was possible I felt provoked to do something harmful towards you or others?

How about we stop with the nonsense and really focus on the real problem? Organised terrorist groups.
 
nakkers said:
Sorry Shahfaisal but, your posts are full of bs. Terrorist will always find reasons to take the actions they do. They were not provoked by anyone and it's not the responsibility of everyone else to pander to them.

I maybe offended or dislike your posts. Does that mean you shouldn't express them if it was possible I felt provoked to do something harmful towards you or others?

How about we stop with the nonsense and really focus on the real problem? Organised terrorist groups.
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ok i can concede to that..

organized by whom?almost every terror group you can name was started/or supported by one nato country or another

taliban.. started by CIA/MI6-- to bother russia
alqaeda started by CIA/MI6 to train terrorist to go attack china
alnusra-- CIA
isis--CIA
various chechnian groups--CIA/MI6
did i miss any MAJOR groups?

what you are saying is correct at its core but.. method you have not discussed... HOW.. by bombing some more or stopping creation/support of such groups
 
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Matt Rain said:
Free speech, religion and offensive cartoons are not even close to being the sole issues here. Disenfranchised French Arabs have been an issue for decades. They get treated like second-rate citizens, like blacks are in many US States.

People are building a skewed narrative based on a bunch of disconnected world events. Can't really blame them, but there's a lot more going on here.

For the record I'm absolutely appalled by the killings. Senseless act.
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+100




"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
mimico_polak said:
I agree....at what point does satire become hatred......

You make fun of a black guy....racist...
You make fun of a Jewish guy....racist...
You make fun of a gay guy...bigot...
You make fun of a Muslim....nothing...

It's mind blowing how some people (i.e.: the two brothers in France) can take their agenda and hide it behind religion in order to have a 'cause' for what they are doing. Religion is used (has been and always will be) for deplorable actions by humanity against one another, and it will continue until people wake up and realize...this is NOT my religion....NOT what I stand for....and then stand up to their own and reject them. They need to be ostracized by their own kind in order to see that their cause will not have any support.

This isn't about free speech. People cling on to this explanation because it's simple, and easy to accept and understand.
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Well said


"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
 
Not a scholar so please forgive but why are there no Muslim extremist doin's going on in China? Or Japan? Or a bunch of other places? Is it just a coincidence that most Muslim extremists acts (those not internal) are aimed at the West? If you were a moderate Muslim and understood (now there's a loaded word) your history how would you be expected to feel about the West meddling in the ME? According to the popular news coverage I'm aware of from the '60's forward people in the ME are no better than Vietnamese and other Asians, that is to say dirt. Of course I know better.
 
Inreb.. please read my last post... taleban/alqaedacontracted to train muslim fighters(uighur tribesmen i believe)for chinese operations (official).. japan does not have a substantial muslim presence.. may be in the hundreds total(local muslims)...brought partly in the 911 commisions investigation... this was stopped right away supposedly

Theirs even a paper trail of payments from the cia and everything... all oficial and ****
 
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shahfaisal said:
Inreb.. please read my last post... taleban/alqaedacontracted to train muslim fighters(uighur tribesmen i believe)for chinese operations (official).. japan does not have a substantial muslim presence.. may be in the hundreds total(local muslims)...brought partly in the 911 commisions investigation... this was stopped right away supposedly

Theirs even a paper trail of payments from the cia and everything... all oficial and ****
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Was not aware of this, I just dabble. I think it strengthens my point that our respective governments need put policies in place to stop the "Muslim problem". Real solutions. I say give it a rest with inflammatory baiting, providing excuses. imho.
 
inreb said:
Was not aware of this, I just dabble. I think it strengthens my point that our respective governments need put policies in place to stop the "Muslim problem". Real solutions. I say give it a rest with inflammatory baiting, providing excuses. imho.
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Respect and non interference is the best first step towards this
 
shahfaisal said:
Some people (mainly sunny) are trying to confuse us.. trying to swap understandable with acceptable... its not acceptable.. but understanding the basics/background is a necessity now
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This makes it a little more clear to a low brow like myself.
And just to be clear, you are referring to Sonny, not Sunny. Sunny only has strong opinions on Hondas and BlackBerrys.
 
Joe Bass said:
This makes it a little more clear to a low brow like myself.
And just to be clear, you are referring to Sonny, not Sunny. Sunny only has strong opinions on Hondas and BlackBerrys.
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Wait? What?! The rectum ranger and the Honda guy aren't the same?....I gotta sharpen my pencil......
 
“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

i know this is taken out of context, but it's what is being read into by the masses. and some will and do use any excuse

qoutes like this is why most law abiding muslims will never come out and say what is happening is wrong
 
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it also is the same for other religions:

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.
 
lucky2 said:
“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

i know this is taken out of context, but it's what is being read into by the masses. and some will and do use any excuse

qoutes like this is why most law abiding muslims will never come out and say what is happening is wrong
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That quote has a FEW extra words.. will get a an exact translation
 
Plus it fails to recognize the section before and after about rules and conditions for pursuing your attackers.. that is what that paragraph is about
 
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