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O'Toole wins nomination - is he our next Prime Minister?

well...my distinction was the far right, neo-nazis and the like...yours seems to be people you generally just disagree with.

Far in either direction is bad for the whole. Far right likely is likely to impose physical harm, far left financial harm. Going too far out in either direction imposes much more suffering than is required to keep society moving forward.
 
well...my distinction was the far right, neo-nazis and the like...yours seems to be people you generally just disagree with.
see there is what i'm saying, if you don't come out the winner the person is an *******, i didn't say i disagree with you but you take offence to anything or anyone that you don't agree with
 
see there is what i'm saying, if you don't come out the winner the person is an *******, i didn't say i disagree with you but you take offence to anything or anyone that you don't agree with

I didn’t take offence...I stated and clarified my position.
 
i think the same could be said about the left, prove me wrong?
really? You think that is a fair comparison? racists are bad but so are people who want to spend a lot of money on social programs? That's equivalent? You think there are an equal number of them? This type of BS is how Trump gets elected.
 
really? You think that is a fair comparison? racists are bad but so are people who want to spend a lot of money on social programs? That's equivalent? You think there are an equal number of them? This type of BS is how Trump gets elected.

so you really think the same can't be said about the left that there's no racist setting in the seat?
 
really? You think that is a fair comparison? racists are bad but so are people who want to spend a lot of money on social programs? That's equivalent? You think there are an equal number of them? This type of BS is how Trump gets elected.
Smart, targeted altruistic spending on social programs is not a bad thing. Far left spending wildly while setting the system up for collapse could easily result in more deaths than a far right program. At a certain tipping point (which thankfully happens infrequently), there cannot be enough taxes collected to pay for the public sector and service the debt. At that point there is an uncontrollable collapse and an horrendous fallout in terms of health and finance with no safety net available to catch the citizens. Far in either direction is bad. Hanging out on one side of centre for too long keeps marching the territory towards bad. Occasional political flips help to balance us around the center so people have freedom now and the system is sustainable over the long term.
 
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so you really think the same can't be said about the left that there's no racist setting in the seat?

you should revisit what you wrote....you compared “the left” to “the far right”. Let me do this in picture style......Hitler = far right, Regan = right, Ghandi = quite left, Stalin = far left.

You basically compared Ghandi to Hitler. You monster!
 
you should revisit what you wrote....you compared “the left” to “the far right”. Let me do this in picture style......Hitler = far right, Regan = right, Ghandi = quite left, Stalin = far left.

You basically compared Ghandi to Hitler. You monster!

see there you go again getting all frustrated and name calling, you continue on and keep your chin up
 
Looks like Ontario Conservative Peter O'Toole.

We don't know much about him yet. He lives in Courtice ON, holds an honours BA in history and political science from RMC, and a law degree from Dalhousie. 12 Years in the RCAF, attained rank of Captain. Has MP and cabinet minister experience.

He's already rolled a platform, looks progressive but reigns in spending.

Thoughts?

I don't know man, all these fake "Conservatives" are all the same, just puppets of the USA, and with a mysterious fetish of always trying to make the American military-industrialists richer by buying useless junk from them by the billions. It goes back all the way to Diefenbaker or whatever his name was. I swore I would never vote for another conservative since we got rid of Stephen Harper. Can we have a real right-wing leader that will make us a Republic and severe ties with the Brit monarchy? Can we have a Conservative that will open up the abortion debate for another vote? A leader that will be tough on criminals and the welfare state? No? Then lets leave this moron of Trudeau in power, it's better a Devil you know that one you don't.

Canada is just hopeless.
 
Can we have a real right-wing leader that will make us a Republic and severe ties with the Brit monarchy?
Can we have a Conservative that will open up the abortion debate for another vote?
A leader that will be tough on criminals and the welfare state?


I think Canada might be the wrong country for you
 
Can we have a real right-wing leader that will make us a Republic and severe ties with the Brit monarchy?
Can we have a Conservative that will open up the abortion debate for another vote?
A leader that will be tough on criminals and the welfare state?


I think Canada might be the wrong country for you
That is an interesting comment and one that I think very few people actually explore. It is much much easier to move somewhere where you are surrounded by similar ideals than it is to try to convince everyone around you to come around to your point of view. The further you are from the average (is the average center?) the more true this is.

Personally, I like discussing conflicting viewpoints as long as they do little harm to others. Peggies list has a little of that and a lot of imposing his view onto others and probably harming them in the process.
 
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just those three things jumped off the page for me
not so much a personal disparagement way
but that I think those positions would have very low support in Canada

can't see a main stream party ever putting them in a platform
never mind forming a government on them

if those are his true values, he's going to stay disappointed here
 
just those three things jumped off the page for me
not so much a personal disparagement way
but that I think those positions would have very low support in Canada

can't see a main stream party ever putting them in a platform
never mind forming a government on them

if those are his true values, he's going to stay disappointed here
Well if O'Toole wants to follow the con tradition of hooping a grenade just for something fun to do, peggies list gives him some good fodder he can use to destroy his chances of getting any seats.
 
really? You think that is a fair comparison? racists are bad but so are people who want to spend a lot of money on social programs? That's equivalent? You think there are an equal number of them? This type of BS is how Trump gets elected.
He was elected because their party system is busted, you`re either one of them or one of us.
 
Smart, targeted altruistic spending on social programs is not a bad thing. Far left spending wildly while setting the system up for collapse could easily result in more deaths than a far right program. At a certain tipping point (which thankfully happens infrequently), there cannot be enough taxes collected to pay for the public sector and service the debt. At that point there is an uncontrollable collapse and an horrendous fallout in terms of health and finance with no safety net available to catch the citizens. Far in either direction is bad. Hanging out on one side of centre for too long keeps marching the territory towards bad. Occasional political flips help to balance us around the center so people have freedom now and the system is sustainable over the long term.

That has nothing to do with the comparison. The comparison was racists vs the "left". A fair comparison would be a government so austere as to spend nothing on healthcare and let its people die vs people who spend too much and bankrupt the economy. What is the opposite of racist? people in this thread seem to think it is socialism or communism.....nope. Communists can be racist too. There is no negative opposite of racist. Unless maybe someone so peaceful and accepting that they let the wolf in sheep's clothing in?
 
He was elected because their party system is busted, you`re either one of them or one of us.
exactly. There are people in the US who think it is reasonable to vote for a racist/sexist man child because the don't "like" Hillary. There is no comparison. Anyone willing to say that a Hillary presidency would have been worse? Only if you think life begins at conception and screw old people dying of Covid.
 

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