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O'Toole wins nomination - is he our next Prime Minister?

well JT is still buying votes, giving 2bill tomorrow for safe schools
 
lucky2 said:
well JT is still buying votes, giving 2bill tomorrow for safe schools
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I don't really understand that beyond vote buying. What does that cash infusion actually change given that classes start next week? It's too late to add space or teachers, it will just be slush fund money.
 
GreyGhost said:
I don't really understand that beyond vote buying. What does that cash infusion actually change given that classes start next week? It's too late to add space or teachers, it will just be slush fund money.
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really don't understand how or who is going to distributed the funds. going to have to wait for the news
 
J_F said:
masks? sanitizer? cleaning? testing?

you know there's going to be a huge increase in custodial costs
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how much is going to make it to the benefits of the school and how much is going to be eaten up by logistics and other hidden costs, and is there going to be transparency or is it going to be another shitshow. anything at this point that JT does should be questioned
 
no idea
but a custodian or 2 ain't gonna be able to do what's required
when they become un-hidden, we'll know I guess, eh?
 
i guess in show business they say, it's all in the timing
 
statscan says 15,500 primary and secondary schools in Canada
if you are correct and 2 billion is being alotted for them to open
works out to around 13 grand per school
not a lot of extra dough

a lot of us here own bikes worth more than that
 
J_F said:
statscan says 15,500 primary and secondary schools in Canada
if you are correct and 2 billion is being alotted for them to open
works out to around 13 grand per school
not a lot of extra dough

a lot of us here own bikes worth more than that
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how quick is this going to get rolled out is another thing, if this was genuine and not an attempt to buy votes then the libs imho should have been on this before tomorrow.
 
GreyGhost said:
I don't really understand that beyond vote buying. What does that cash infusion actually change given that classes start next week? It's too late to add space or teachers, it will just be slush fund money.
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Well some of the "poor" schools still have old desktop computers for the teachers, not laptops they can take home when it all blows up and it goes back to 100% online (last year these schools made the teachers go online with what they had in Chromebooks and iPads and in general the teachers used their own home computers (which is a security etc. risk). They have also admitted that all that tech that they sent out last time to the kids, well most of it is not coming back (no surprise there). So there is need on the in class tech side.. the tech side is maybe where it could be used fast. But I totally agree in general this is too little too late to be meaningful.

Education is a provincial thing and this cash should have been sent to the provinces months ago... of course who knows where it would have went then either...


BTW, thanks for your post on the shadow cabinet a page back, exactly what I was getting at!
 
J_F said:
this one made me think that way
don't know how he survived it


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really that's the most logical iv'e heard him speak. he nailed the points that was asked and spoke clear
 
GreyGhost said:
I don't really understand that beyond vote buying. What does that cash infusion actually change given that classes start next week? It's too late to add space or teachers, it will just be slush fund money.
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It's token money -- buys union loyalty, and gives them talking points to extract more from the provinces.

Expect lots of $2b handouts between now and election day, a lot of people still standing in line for their freebee.
 
J_F said:
statscan says 15,500 primary and secondary schools in Canada
if you are correct and 2 billion is being alotted for them to open
works out to around 13 grand per school
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That noise everyone just heard was arguments rapidly deflating.

I get a laugh out of people complaining about all the money being spent right now. Will every dime of it be spent wisely and not be eaten up by some overhead and abuse? No. Did every penny of CERB get spent properly, and were there no people who abused it? No. Will all the loans and grants given to businesses save every single one of them? No.

But in the end, all these expenses are necessary expenses to get through this whole Covid debacle and MOST of it is doing what it was intended to do, so it's been a success.

It may take some time (and perhaps taxes) to pay it back, but that's sure a hell of a lot better than throwing ones hands up in the air and letting it all burn while people go broke and hungry, the economy collapses, small businesses (which are the lifeblood of the country) close their doors en masse, etc etc etc. We've come out the other side of this pretty damned good, but that has cost (and will continue to cost) money.
 
J_F said:
statscan says 15,500 primary and secondary schools in Canada
if you are correct and 2 billion is being alotted for them to open
works out to around 13 grand per school
not a lot of extra dough

a lot of us here own bikes worth more than that
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... 130 grand per school.
 
Brian P said:
... 130 grand per school.
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Good catch (admittedly missed that myself), but still not a ton of money in the grand scheme of extra custodial staffing and/or overtime, cleaning supplies, any extra hardware or modifications to HVAC systems (IE, hepa filtration in high risk classrooms), etc etc.
 
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