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I see the tinfoil morons are out in full force....LMAO!! The reason its useless to debate with these idiots is because there is no proof good enough. Provide a picture and they will claim photoshop, provide DNA evidence and they will claim tampering, provide eye witness testimony and they will claim coercion or outright lies, show them the body and they will claim its a fake....its just a useless circle jerk with these morons.
 
Freestyle72 said:
Really? What exactly is the price that is too high to pay?

As I recall his predecesessor declared war based on WMDs that were never there. The guy before them got head while on the job and lied about that. What exactly is the price these people have to pay? They are basically the most powerful people in the world. They don't pay for their mistakes. Basically everyone, and anyone, but them will pay the price of their mistakes. Bill Clinton gets head in the oval office and Monica is forever only known as the ***** that sucked his dick.
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So what price should Bill have paid for getting a rim job in the oval office?? What is the punishment for that?
 
Moreno636 said:
I see the tinfoil morons are out in full force....LMAO!! The reason its useless to debate with these idiots is because there is no proof good enough. Provide a picture and they will claim photoshop, provide DNA evidence and they will claim tampering, provide eye witness testimony and they will claim coercion or outright lies, show them the body and they will claim its a fake....its just a useless circle jerk with these morons.
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I know. I just find it hard to resist, because I think there should be some way for reason to prevail. But I believe you're right.

You actually suggest a good exercise, let's see if anyone can do this:

Imagine for a second that the USA actually DID kill Osama. Outline for us all here, what evidence you would require before you believed it. What is the standard of evidence, that would convince you, beyond a doubt, that it actually happened?

If you can describe what that evidence would be, then there's a basis for conversation. If not, then it's clear you would never be convinced regardless of the evidence presented.
 
Moreno636 said:
So what price should Bill have paid for getting a rim job in the oval office?? What is the punishment for that?
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How about getting kicked the **** out of office? I personally don't care but most people would get fired for that. And charged with indecency or something of the sort. I don't really care to punish them, I just think it's absurd to think they can't lie, it's not like they are going to face ANY kind of reprimand.
 
Freestyle72 said:
How about getting kicked the **** out of office? I personally don't care but most people would get fired for that. And charged with indecency or something of the sort. I don't really care to punish them, I just think it's absurd to think they can't lie, it's not like they are going to face ANY kind of reprimand.
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Why? Ohhhh ok...so you actually have no clue as to if what was done was wrong or what the appropriate punishment is....thats what I thought.
 
Useless circle jerk, good way to describe this whole show.

Osama bin Laden: day two and a new version of how events unfolded

The White House came under increasing pressure yesterday to release video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound after the official version of events began to fall apart.



The administration can't even get their stories straight and anyone who questions this whole distraction story (dead or alive, who the **** cares about osama?) must be a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory lunatic idiot. Yea forget the ever expanding wars that will not end in our lifetime, we got osama!

Shot, killed , buried at sea, no photos, no video, completely conflicting account of events from the whitehouse and anyone who thinks something isn't right is an idiot that you take personal offense to and we're the whackjobs... sure thing pal.
 
roadtoruin said:
The administration can't even get their stories straight and anyone who questions this whole distraction story (dead or alive, who the **** cares about osama?) must be a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory lunatic idiot. Yea forget the ever expanding wars that will not end in our lifetime, we got osama!

Shot, killed , buried at sea, no photos, no video, completely conflicting account of events from the whitehouse and anyone who thinks something isn't right is an idiot that you take personal offense to and we're the whackjobs... sure thing pal.
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What evidence would satisfy you?
 
Moreno636 said:
Why? Ohhhh ok...so you actually have no clue as to if what was done was wrong or what the appropriate punishment is....thats what I thought.
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Please enlighten me. You are obviously by far the smartest poster on GTAM. I have it from a credible unnamed source in fact that you have never been wrong.
 
I'm not arguing that he's not dead. I'm sure he probably is dead, I just think this whole thing is one big propaganda show to lend support for the bogus "war on terror" which is really a resource war that according to Dick Cheney is "The war that won't end in our lifetimes."
 
roadtoruin said:
Useless circle jerk, good way to describe this whole show.

Osama bin Laden: day two and a new version of how events unfolded

The White House came under increasing pressure yesterday to release video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound after the official version of events began to fall apart.



The administration can't even get their stories straight and anyone who questions this whole distraction story (dead or alive, who the **** cares about osama?) must be a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory lunatic idiot. Yea forget the ever expanding wars that will not end in our lifetime, we got osama!

Shot, killed , buried at sea, no photos, no video, completely conflicting account of events from the whitehouse and anyone who thinks something isn't right is an idiot that you take personal offense to and we're the whackjobs... sure thing pal.
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And the circle jerk continues...


Typical conspiracy theory tactic... juxtaposition facts with innuendo. If you carefully read the article you see how see through this is.

For eg. But a third version of events has also emerged from Pakistan, in which there were 17 or 18 children inside the compound, as well as the adults.

WTF? From who? Who is the source??

There have been suggestions, however, that the helicopter was damaged after being shot at by bin Laden’s bodyguards as it flew over the compound. Reports in Pakistan suggest it was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade, and photographs of the scene show the tail section of the aircraft hanging over the wall of the compound, suggesting it hit the wall as it came down in what would have been a heavy crash-landing rather than a “loss of lift”.

Again by who??? Are they just pulling this stuff out of thin air?

Representative Ron Paul, a Republican presidential candidate and a doctor, said: “I understand he was killed Sunday afternoon and by Sunday nine o’clock it was announced that the President would speak and they had DNA proof of the individual. I didn’t know they could do DNA that quickly. Then they came back and said it was facial features and we’ll get the results of the DNA later.”

More lies, the statement was facial recognition was used in conjunction with DNA testing as well as eye witness testimony...like any other forensic case.
 
Freestyle72 said:
Please enlighten me. You are obviously by far the smartest poster on GTAM. I have it from a credible unnamed source in fact that you have never been wrong.
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Wrong again...I have never claimed that anybody deserves to be punished for getting a bj in his house. YOU HAVE...so your honour since your so apt to hand out judgment...lets hear the legal rational for it.
 
Moreno636 said:
Wrong again...I have never claimed that anybody deserves to be punished for getting a bj in his house. YOU HAVE...so your honour since your so apt to hand out judgment...lets hear the legal rational for it.
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I never said they should be punished either. I said they won't be punished so its foolish to expect somebody who faces no consequence to the their action to do the right thing. If it were up to me I would high five Clinton. But if I pulled the same **** at work my *** would get fired, or at the very least it would cripple my career.
 
How are you guys so sure where he got the bj? Or even if he got a bj at all? Did you see photo, video, or DNA evidence of the event?

Maybe Monica isn't even her real name. She could very well just be a CIA operative, and invented the whole story.
 
Duster929 said:
How are you guys so sure where he got the bj? Or even if he got a bj at all? Did you see photo, video, or DNA evidence of the event?

Maybe Monica isn't even her real name. She could very well just be a CIA operative, and invented the whole story.
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Oh I know.

But you're right, Monica isn't my real name. ;)
 
fastar1 said:
Actually, it was in the oval office wasn't it? His place of employment.
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Ok...now the question is what is the punishment, if there is one for such an act. Lets be thorough...is there a distinction between the west wing and the residence, if there is, what was the actual infraction. What is the actual punishment for that infraction.
Just saying "He lied so kick him out" isnt even close to legal.

The point is, conspiracy theorist love to throw out vague generalizations and use innuendo to allude to something completely irrelevant. As we know from Watergate there are far reaching implications for lying and covering it up. So no...Presidents can't out right lie about something. If Osama is legitimately found to be alive....Obama would be caught for out right lying...you really think nothing will happen to him??? The dude had to fend of idiots like Trump about his birth certificate 2 years after his win, you think they would let something like this slide? Its lunacy.
 
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Moreno636 said:
The point is, conspiracy theorist love to throw out vague generalizations and use innuendo to allude to something completely irrelevant. As we know from Watergate there are far reaching implications for lying and covering it up. So no...Presidents can't out right lie about something. If Osama is legitimately found to be alive....Obama would be caught for out right lying...you really think nothing will happen to him??? The dude had to fend of idiots like Trump about his birth certificate 2 years after his win, you think they would let something like this slide? Its lunacy.
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The problem is, Osama will be found to be alive, but only by certain people. There will be sightings. He will be said to have had high-level secret meetings with CIA agents, every time something big happens in some part of the world. There will likely be new videos or recordings that will need to be debunked. Osama will be just as alive as Elvis. Sheet, some conspiracy theorists are convinced that Hitler is still alive and living in Argentina.

And people will say, "Obama lied about Osama, and we let him get away with it!"
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