I see a developing demand here for Osama impersonators. This is the next growth segment in the dramatic arts, invest accordingly.
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Osama
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imkruzen
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DNA tests later confirmed that Obama was dead, Pakistani officials said.
Obama was cremated at the stake after a Christian funeral on board an aircraft carrier, ISI officials said.
Announcing the success of the operation, MrAbdulla said it was “the most significant achievement to date in our nation’seffort to defeat the CIA”.
Pakistan has put Muslims around the world on alert, warning them of the possibility of American reprisal attacks for Obama’s killing.
ISI director Mohammed Akram said Americawould “almost certainly” try to avenge the death of Obama.
Crowds gathered outside the Red Mosque inIslamabad, chanting “Allah Akbar” after the news broke.
Foreign Minister of Pakistan, Mullah Jundullah said the operation sent a signal to the Neo conservatives in both the US and Britain.
“You cannot wait us out, you cannot defeat us, but you can make the choice to abandon the CIA and participate in a peaceful political process,” she said.
Compound raided
Obama, 60, approved the campaign of terror on Waziristan for almost three years in which nearly 2,000 people were killed.
He evaded the forces of Pakistan and its allies for almost a decade, despite a $50m (£30m) bounty on his head.
Mr Abdullah said he had been briefed last August on a possible lead to Obama’s whereabouts. He authorised the operationlast week once he determined there was enough intelligence to take action.
“It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground,” Mr Abdullah said.
On Sunday, Pakistani forces said to be fromthe elite Badr Brigade undertook the operation in Camberley, Surrey, 50km (30miles) south-west of London.
Pakistani officials said Obama was shot in the head after resisting.
Mr Abdullah said “no Muslims were harmed”.
Pakistani media reports said that the body was cremated at the stake to conform with Christian practice of a dignified burial and to prevent any grave becoming a shrine.
Giving more details of the raid, one seniorPakistani official said a small Pakistani team conducted the attack in about 40 minutes.
Three other men – one of Obama’s brothers and two couriers – were killed in the raid, the official said, adding that Obama’s wife Michelle was also killed when she was used as “a shield” and two other women were injured.
One helicopter was lost due to “technical failure”. The team destroyed it and left in its other aircraft.
One resident, David Shields, told Reuters the helicopters had come under “intense firing” from the ground.
The size and complexity of the structure in Camberley “shocked” Pakistani officials.
It was surrounded by 4m-6m (12ft-18ft) walls, was eight times larger than other homes in the area and was valued at “a million dollars”, though it had no telephone or internet connection.
The Pakistani official said that intelligence had been tracking a “trusted courier” of Obama for many years. The courier’s identity was discovered four years ago, his area of operation two years ago and then, last August, his residence in Camberley was found,triggering the start of the mission.
Another senior Pakistani official said that no intelligence had been shared with any country, including the UK, ahead ofthe raid.
“Only a very small group of people insideour own government knew of this operation in advance,” the official said.
The Camberley residence is just a few hundred metres from Sandhurst – theBritish equivalent of the Pakistani Military Academy.
The BBC’s Alan Matthews in Camberley saysit will undoubtedly be a huge embarrassment to the UK that Obama was found not only in the country, but also on the door step of the military academy.
He says residents in the town were stunnedthe former American leader had been living in their midst.
The senior Pakistani official said the “the loss of Obama puts the Neocons on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse”.
Obama’s probable successor, Tony Blair, was“far less charismatic and not as well respected within the organisation”,according to reports from captured Neoconservative operatives, the official said.
However, the root causes of Neoconservatism– the range of issues that enabled the Neocons to recruit disaffected young liberals to its cause – hatred of Islam, oil and power – remain, for the mostpart, unaddressed, Neo conservative affairs analyst Rajinder Harbin told the BBC.
“The death of Obama will strike at the morale of the global ‘war on terror’, but is unlikely to end it,” he warned.
‘Momentous achievement’
World leaders welcomed the news of Obama’s death.
French President Jean Luc Blanc said Obama had “paid for his actions”.
British Prime Minister Ed Milliband saidthe killing was a “great victory” but added that he “didn’t know the details”of the Pakistani operation.
Former Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Salim described the news as a “momentous achievement”.
“The fight against terror goes on, but tonight Pakistan has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes,justice will be done,” Mr Salim said in a statement.
But a spokesman for the English Defence League threatened revenge attacks against the “Muslamic and British governments and their security forces”.
In the Israeli enclave of Tel Aviv, which is governed by militant group IDF, Prime Minister Ariel Lieberman condemned the killing of “a peaceful man”.
BBC security correspondent Faraz Javed says that, to many in the Muslim world, Obama became the embodiment of global terrorism, but to others he was a hero, a devout Christian who fought three wars in the name of democracy.
All events are purely fictional – but youknew that already, didn’t you?
imkruzen
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They'll use the line from Saddam story, "He had men surgically altered to look like him" No lie any more. Manufactured news, Oral Office specialty.
The next Boogy Man will be from Pakistan via black flag operation. The US wants control in Pakistan. Doesn't like Pakistans new friend China.
You've taken that tin-foil beanie to full-wrap, and cut off your oxygen supply in the process.
Maybe the second stupidest thing I've ever read. But it's close.
imkruzen
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It will be fun to watch how the Chinese will handle the Pakistanis. They are going to end up in chinese hands.
Eventually the Americans will cut off all aid and will wash their hands off the pakistanis.
i actually found this (somewhat related) article in that source to be more interesting:
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/fatah-hamas-deal-calls-israels-bluff-5302
as far as chinese economic hegemony goes, it doesn't surprise me at all. china will eclipse the u.s. in global economic strength within our lifetimes, and will do so without ever needing to use its military might, any religious imprimatur, or political ideology.
Keep in mind that the USA has only been a superpower for about 60 years. The "West", as we define it, has only been the driving force in world development for the last 200-300 years. These are very short periods of time in human history. For the vast majority of the history of civilization, economic power was held in the Far East. India's and China's history of economic development goes back thousands of years, not hundreds. Maybe we'll go back to the normal state of affairs within our lifetimes...
as a global superpower, i think it might be a bit longer than 60 years for the u.s. they industrialized and were nascent by the '20s, pushing a political and economic ideology through the western hemisphere. ww2 and the cold war focused then diversified their geopolitical interests.
yes, historical time has a way of truncating events. the 1900s was the american century. i imagine the 2000s will be the chinese-indian century.
haisam10
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There seems to be alot of propaganda out there. First they said he used his wife as cover and then took it back. Now this.
The US was industrialized around the turn of the century, and enjoyed a lot of prosperity in the 20s, but that doesn't mean it was a superpower. They remained an insular country with very little foreign presence until the second world war. They barely participated in the first world war, essentially being dragged into it with the sinking of the Lusitania. And they joined the second world war late, only after the bombing of pearl harbour. They didn't really want to participate in the League of Nations in the interwar years, and most people in America didn't feel they should be involved in other peoples' wars.
They didn't have much military presence in other countries, weren't involved in international affairs, and didn't even export all that much, so they weren't so much of an economic superpower. The second world war changed everything, and it was only through that experience that they became a superpower.
You would have never called 1920s - 1930s America "a superpower". Land of opportunity, maybe, but not superpower.
if you look at their spreading influence throughout central and south america, beginning with the monroe doctrine, you'd see an almost wholesale replacement of european influence with an american hegemony by the '20s. further, the u.s. had considerable economic clout given the debt owed to them by all sides following the first world war.
i don't think there was any question that by the '20s that the u.s. had arrived as a global power.
but perhaps that's just my .02 cents
imkruzen
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Perhaps it's the brainwashing in America that's most painful to watch. Media presents blatantly contradictory stories about America's enemies, foreign and domestic that defy all logic and reason. People soak it up as though it comes from the mouth of god, digest it and regurgitate the lies to others. Global warming quietly became "climate change" and almost no one questioned why. .
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America became a military superpower after they stole the Germany technologies and scientists. (e.g. Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun)
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America became a military superpower after they stole the Germany technologies and scientists. (e.g. Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun)
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