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Ontario should make winter tires mandatory.

AdRath said:
And you feel everyone trying to re-route because of this accident won't cause delays in getting to work?

I would never work for a place that watches my time like that and lucky for me I won't have to due to the field I am in. I self schedule and if I'm doing something I don't need to be in the office for I work from home or a coffee shop or wherever.

back to thread topic. I don't have winter tires but I also don't drive when the weather is bad because I don't have to and at worse is slow surface streets downtown which is exactly why I don't want them mandated because everyone in ontario isn't in the same situations regarding road needs.
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lol back to my first post about leaving early.

Would be nice to have jobs like that where it doen't matter when you come in. Some people can even do their job from home when it's crappy out. A lot of us have jobs where we relieve others so coming on time is important. I come late, someone else gets stuck working late. That would really suck on a 12 hour shift to stay longer cause your co-worker couldn't figure out that a snow storm in Toronto will take you longer to get to work. The best part is it isn't the weather that causes the delays. It's the amount of crappy drivers that don't educate them selves on how to drive in our winters like it's something new every time it snows. My little **** box of a Civic with the cheapest winters on and I have no issues. My work vehicles are hybrid suvs with all seasons on and I'm still fine in the so called "crappy" weather we have.
 
fastar1 said:
www.waze.com
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Waze is having issues this week. The forum is lit up like a christmas tree. That said, it's the only thing close to real time traffic seeing as it's user based GPS info. . And I'm laughing at "just listen to the radio" post. That only leaves a 20 minute window of what could have happened on your route since the last time they gave a 10 minute old traffic report 10 minutes ago.
 
^ you do realize the cheapest winter tires are not as good as high end all season?


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daught said:
^ you do realize the cheapest winter tires are not as good as high end all season?
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As long as you are not referring to no name cheap China tires, I will respectfully disagree with you. Just the fact that winter tires are designed to work best at temperatures 7 degrees and below is a significant advantage right off the bat.
 
SunnY S said:
As long as you are not referring to no name cheap China tires, I will respectfully disagree with you. Just the fact that winter tires are designed to work best at temperatures 7 degrees and below is a significant advantage right off the bat.
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I'm really wondering about this whole 7 degree thing. Not in the lab but in real life. We've had many days far below zero. On clean pavement I've yet to have traction issues @ corners despite pushing (for experiment sake) well above what would be considered a commuting speed. Snow and ice all winter no problem on all seasons. Still not getting it.
 
SunnY S said:
Yeah, ok.
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I'm not even going to look at the video SunnY S, I won't disagree with science. We're talking about whether these tires should be mandatory. My opinion from personal experience is no. From all the smash ups this winter, maybe they should be.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Based on the fact that I made it without incident, and that beyond 410 the highways were in reasonable shape (The Gardiner was completely clean), I would say otherwise.
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Rob... that's silly. You didn't get struck by lightning on your way to work therefore you never will? Like I said, I don't seem to have any trouble driving in icy or snowy conditions but lots of other people do. Going on the 400 series of highways in such a storm would be putting myself in close proximity to incompetent drivers. You have personally posted videos of people doing stupid things in near ideal driving conditions (your recent accident comes to mind), add in the snow and see how people struggle to drive.

That many bad drivers in close proximity, add snow and ice, and the risks of being hit increase. There is no debating that. Whether they increase to a level that makes staying home the best choice is a personal decision.

Good luck!
 
You communist! Despite what you think, that won't make them slow down. It will give them a false confidence that they can drive faster with more minimal chances of problems occurring.
 
caboose56 said:
Rob... that's silly. You didn't get struck by lightning on your way to work therefore you never will? Like I said, I don't seem to have any trouble driving in icy or snowy conditions but lots of other people do. Going on the 400 series of highways in such a storm would be putting myself in close proximity to incompetent drivers. You have personally posted videos of people doing stupid things in near ideal driving conditions (your recent accident comes to mind), add in the snow and see how people struggle to drive.

That many bad drivers in close proximity, add snow and ice, and the risks of being hit increase. There is no debating that. Whether they increase to a level that makes staying home the best choice is a personal decision.

Good luck!
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Exactly; it's a personal decision. The major collisions that occurred tended to be in large open regions, well out of the city, in which immediate short term white-outs occurred.
 
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My car has 215/55-16 or 235/45-17 tires. Right now it has 17. Would getting 16 winters affect the gas milage negatively in any way? Higher sidewall, rolling resistance and all that.
 
Doubt that it would make any difference. Be aware that you might need a few more pounds of air in the 215 as opposed to the 235, your tire guys can tell you what's recommended. Or go by your owner's manual info if 16s were an option. Good move, the narrower tire will work better in snow.
 
daught said:
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My car has 215/55-16 or 235/45-17 tires. Right now it has 17. Would getting 16 winters affect the gas milage negatively in any way? Higher sidewall, rolling resistance and all that.
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The winter tire compound will affect your fuel mileage negatively. I always recommend going to a narrower tire for winter (as in the 215) as more pressure over smaller surface helps cut through the snow better.

wider is better for summer, not winter.
 
daught said:
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My car has 215/55-16 or 235/45-17 tires. Right now it has 17. Would getting 16 winters affect the gas milage negatively in any way? Higher sidewall, rolling resistance and all that.
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According to my dashboard calculator.......cancel that, i plugged in wrong numbers. Carry on.
 
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Winter tires are generally a wee bit narrower than "summer" or "all-season" tires. The narrower the tire, the less friction on the pavement - and I was told, less rolling resistance - although, I'm not sure why that would be. So, assuming you're keeping them inflated to the proper pressure, I doubt you would see any negative impact on your fuel consumption. Keep in mind, most cars get crappier mileage in the cold weather.
 
Thx thought so.

Here's a thought. If I am driving far away I can pump my tires to 50 psi or whatever their max is for the highway portion of the trip. After the highway I can drop the pressure to the recommended level.
 
Doug Tait said:
The narrower the tire, the less friction on the pavement - and I was told, less rolling resistance - although, I'm not sure why that would be.
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As you pump up the tire it becomes more oval (like a motorcycle tire) and reduced the contact patch. This creates the lower rolling resistance which increases your MPG....at the cost of wearing your tires out in the middle. It's a tradeoff.
 
daught said:
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My car has 215/55-16 or 235/45-17 tires. Right now it has 17. Would getting 16 winters affect the gas milage negatively in any way? Higher sidewall, rolling resistance and all that.
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Plug n' play.

http://www.tyresizecalculator.com/

or

Buy a Honda /Acura and you won't need snow tires*


*this may require advanced winter driving technique lessons from BLUE KAWI





 
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