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Ontario should make winter tires mandatory.

Gary said:
I'd show you mine, but there was no youtube 45 yrs ago :p
Next major snowfall, be waiting for me at your door with your video cam...........I'll drive, you record, you upload!!
We'll hit Snake Rd. Let me know if you want FWD, RWD, or 4x4........I'll bring your choice with NO snow / winter tires.



Right.........in a perfect world.
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What about all wheel drive?
cause 4x4 and all wheel drive are different systems :D
ILL COME ALONG ahahah
 
Gary said:
I'd show you mine, but there was no youtube 45 yrs ago :p
Next major snowfall, be waiting for me at your door with your video cam...........I'll drive, you record, you upload!!
We'll hit Snake Rd. Let me know if you want FWD, RWD, or 4x4........I'll bring your choice with NO snow / winter tires.



Right.........in a perfect world.
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count me in for this ride Gary......
 
Gary said:
Insurance discounts 5% for winter tires providing your cage wears them from Nov 15 to Apr 15 every year.
In my case, the 5% would barely cover the cost of the 6 pack, and I don't drink.
A couple weeks ago, just for fun, I picked up a set for my car. They came with TPMS valves. Doing it myself would have meant the "TPMS" light would be lit up on the dash = annoying, as the dealer must initialize the system on all 4 wheels. That's about a $120 kick in the nuts every winter, and another $120 every spring when I'd have to put the 'summer' tires back on. **** that.
To leave the TPMS light on, and not bother getting it set up at the dealer means: the traction control shut off is disabled. So - If the car happens to get stuck in a snow bank etc, there's no getting out of it, without assistance.
I sold the winter tires the other day, and will drive my truck (4x4) if and when 'they' forecast snow.

Forget winter driving courses. Drivers that don't have a clue, will never catch on and they'd probably crash and burn on the way to the course, as it would have to be taught on the most inclement days.

Rather than all this yip yap about "snow" / "winter" tires............let's start a campaign to get rid of ABS - quite possibly the most evil invention ever installed on a car for winter driving.
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people suck at driving now... Thanks you just made me the old guy who walked both ways up himm in the snow to school.

Snow tires help but don't fix stupid... people don't learn to drive now. Cars has traction control, anti-lock brakes, stability control... and park assist in case you cant even park. All really neat gadgets, but people become relaint on these things and just remain stupid.
 
Gary said:
Rather than all this yip yap about "snow" / "winter" tires............let's start a campaign to get rid of ABS - quite possibly the most evil invention ever installed on a car for winter driving.
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It's #9 in my Audi. ;)



Oh, and I'm in for the Snake Rd. snow shenanigans.
 
Gary said:
A couple weeks ago, just for fun, I picked up a set for my car. They came with TPMS valves. Doing it myself would have meant the "TPMS" light would be lit up on the dash = annoying, as the dealer must initialize the system on all 4 wheels. That's about a $120 kick in the nuts every winter, and another $120 every spring when I'd have to put the 'summer' tires back on. **** that.
To leave the TPMS light on, and not bother getting it set up at the dealer means: the traction control shut off is disabled. So - If the car happens to get stuck in a snow bank etc, there's no getting out of it, without assistance.
I sold the winter tires the other day, and will drive my truck (4x4) if and when 'they' forecast snow.
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That sucks about your TPMS. I picked up 4 TPMS sensors off Amazon for $25 a piece for my Jeep. Computer initialized instantly when the replacement wheels were installed and away I went.

As a side note I can tell a huge difference in vehicle control with my Blizzaks installed. I'll never rely on all seasons again during the winter season, and I spent almost 20 years driving in Northern Ontario so it's not like I lack experience.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
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It's #9 in my Audi. ;)



Oh, and I'm in for the Snake Rd. snow shenanigans.
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Just be aware that in case of accident (your fault or not), if the adjuster finds ANY 'safety' feature disabled (including the ABS fuse), you're on your own.
Did the fuse removal disable anything else?
See you next snowfall, or sooner.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
most truck 4x4s are not true 4x4 in the sense that most people think....they usually dont have posi differentials and although technically all 4 wheels get power, one of the back wheels and one of the front wheel will spin.

TRUE 4x4 has locking differentials and transfer boxes....Cant turn on asphalt with those engaged without tearing up the rubber....Those are meant for true offroading.
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Case in point...All bark, no bite.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ac6_1356720441
 
Gary said:
Insurance discounts 5% for winter tires providing your cage wears them from Nov 15 to Apr 15 every year.
In my case, the 5% would barely cover the cost of the 6 pack, and I don't drink.
A couple weeks ago, just for fun, I picked up a set for my car. They came with TPMS valves. Doing it myself would have meant the "TPMS" light would be lit up on the dash = annoying, as the dealer must initialize the system on all 4 wheels. That's about a $120 kick in the nuts every winter, and another $120 every spring when I'd have to put the 'summer' tires back on. **** that.
To leave the TPMS light on, and not bother getting it set up at the dealer means: the traction control shut off is disabled. So - If the car happens to get stuck in a snow bank etc, there's no getting out of it, without assistance.
I sold the winter tires the other day, and will drive my truck (4x4) if and when 'they' forecast snow.

Forget winter driving courses. Drivers that don't have a clue, will never catch on and they'd probably crash and burn on the way to the course, as it would have to be taught on the most inclement days.

Rather than all this yip yap about "snow" / "winter" tires............let's start a campaign to get rid of ABS - quite possibly the most evil invention ever installed on a car for winter driving.
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Gary, are you sure about this?

I picked up some used 18" winter rims for my SUV (same brand family as your car) and it had TPMS sensors from the previous owner already installed and ready to go. I slapped them on my truck, and no problemo.

Im just not crazy about the current Hankooky's tires he sold me with the rims, the vehicle the sharpness of the handling is diminished. Shopping around for some Pirelli Scorps or Mich Alpins for the moment.
 
SunnY S said:
Gary, are you sure about this?

I picked up some used 18" winter rims for my SUV (same brand family as your car) and it had TPMS sensors from the previous owner already installed and ready to go. I slapped them on my truck, and no problemo.

Im just not crazy about the current Hankooky's tires he sold me with the rims, the vehicle the sharpness of the handling is diminished. Shopping around for some Pirelli Scorps or Mich Alpins for the moment.
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I'm about 95% sure.
After I paid the guy I bought them from, he told me that he'd put a small piece of electrical tape over the 'idiot' light. The dealer told him what I relayed re: initializing. He had a '10, mine is a '12, so I just assumed I'd have the same destiny. (I know some vehicles come with 2 sets of TPMS sensor capability, but an Accord is not on that list).
They were Blizzaks that were in brand new condition.
By selling them, I had no probs turning a $200 profit in less than a week ;)
The Civic I had for a couple months came with Michelin X Ice tires. I never got a chance to test them in snow, or ice, but they stuck like glue on ramps - I was relentless, as I tried pushing it to the point of a near roll over. You might enjoy them?
 
Honda and Acura tpms are different. Majority of Acura's sensors don't need any special programming.

As for the $120 for TPMS reprogramming find a different shop, they are hosing you large with that price.
 
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That's crazy, I never had any TPM'S issues with both of my MINI's. You'd think BMW of anyone would try to screw you, lol.
 
Jayv said:
Honda and Acura tpms are different. Majority of Acura's sensors don't need any special programming.

As for the $120 for TPMS reprogramming find a different shop, they are hosing you large with that price.
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Ah, that explains it.

Gary said:
The Civic I had for a couple months came with Michelin X Ice tires. I never got a chance to test them in snow, or ice, but they stuck like glue on ramps - I was relentless, as I tried pushing it to the point of a near roll over. You might enjoy them?
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My choices are heavily influenced by TireRack reviews. Based on their recommendation, I had Xice2's on our last SUV and they were amazing. Before that set, I also had good success with Pirelli Scorpion Ice n Snows, again based on TR's excellent reviews.

Leaning towards the Pirellis this time as they are a more performance oriented tire which will suit my current ride, and based on my past personal experience performed admirably in the snow.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
If it's so great, why are they already replacing it with P-AWS?
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SH-AWD is here to stay.

They aren't replacing SH-AWD with P-recison A-ll W-heel S-teering, but rather complementing it.

The 2014 RLX will come in 2 flavors, a base front drive model with P-AWS, then followed with the release of an upscale hybrid SH-AWD model RLX with the same system as the one that will be found in the upcoming NSX.

http://www.insideline.com/acura/rlx...debut-set-for-2012-los-angeles-auto-show.html
 
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Nokian WR G2 ALL-SEASON tyres out-perform a lot of snow tires. Just sayin' :D
 
Aren't we all motorcyclists here? I just left my winters on my car this past year, because my car only gets used maybe a dozen times to short jaunts during the riding season. My motorcycle kilometers were over 10x my car kms in the past 12 months.
 
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