Official 2012 Summer Olympic Games Thread

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Jinniwind said:
Canada just won the first medal. a bronze from 3m springboard diving.
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I have been stuck at home indoors for the last 3 weeks. Thank god the Olympics has finally come on. Watched the divers today. Very nicely done. Not too please about the woman's cycling race. Our contender didn't do too well at all. I watched the canoe and kayak today. That's such a sweet sport! I have never seen that before.

Men's gymnastics is interesting. Can't believe how fit those guys are but I have a hard time not laughing when I watch them do their floor routine and have to 'dance' their way into the corners. Too freaking funny.
 
invictus43 said:
Sooo..how much suspension of reality can swimming fans put up with here??

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012...aged-by-ye-shiwen-olympic-doping-allegations/
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she even said it's the "science" of their training.....

Seems other worldly that a 16 yr old girl from China can out swim the fastest MEN'S times at the Olympics, coming out of nowhere and never being heard from previously.
If she was this phenom, wouldn't we know more about her before this race?

yeah. everything is on the up-and-up there. :rolleyes:
 
invictus43 said:
Sooo..how much suspension of reality can swimming fans put up with here?? http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012...aged-by-ye-shiwen-olympic-doping-allegations/
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Who cares. All you can do is test. Until you get a positive, the west should STFU and stop acting as if their **** don't stink. If the consensus is that the Chinese sporting federations don't do good enough effort of OOC testing, then their athletes should not be allowed to compete to begin with until the Chinese get their **** together. Crying after the fact is BS. BTW, I thought this was an insightful piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIR3d2wVgtQ
 
moosh009 said:
Who cares. All you can do is test. Until you get a positive, the west should STFU and stop acting as if their **** don't stink. If the consensus is that the Chinese sporting federations don't do good enough effort of OOC testing, then their athletes should not be allowed to compete to begin with until the Chinese get their **** together. Crying after the fact is BS. BTW, I thought this was an insightful piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIR3d2wVgtQ
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Is that you Lance??
 
I'm not against retroactive testing and disqualifications. If they still have Lance's samples and want to retest them, they should, and apply penalties as per the rules. That still doesn't change the fact that doping control is a joke. BTW I thought Lance did test positive on numerous occasions but always got away on a technicality.
 
moosh009 said:
I'm not against retroactive testing and disqualifications. If they still have Lance's samples and want to retest them, they should, and apply penalties as per the rules. That still doesn't change the fact that doping control is a joke. BTW I thought Lance did test positive on numerous occasions but always got away on a technicality.
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Lance never officially tested positive. There are rumours of positive tests and money changing hands to cover them up, but no official positives. Le Monde also insinuated that they retro-tested his sample from 1999 but there's not conclusive proof that the sample they tested was his or that it was done properly.

Doping control is a joke..and it's sad. I was mostly commenting on peoples' belief that "their" sport or "their" athletes are clean. No chance.
 
I really recommend the video I posted. My favorite part was when the US setup a drug testing system so that their athletes could learn how not to test positive at the LA games.
 
moosh009 said:
I really recommend the video I posted. My favorite part was when the US setup a drug testing system so that their athletes could learn how not to test positive at the LA games.
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Oh yeah..they all do it..East Germany started it..state-sponsored doping. China was going it in the 90's..now they officially don't condone the program. Like I say..pretend all you want, all sports are doped..
 
Watching women's diving!!!! YES CANADA!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO GO LADIES!!!!! BRONZE!!!
Now if only our soccer team could pull it together.

That Mexican team is incredible. A 15 year old working with a veteran and they pull of a silver. Well done!
 
Banger said:
Watching women's diving!!!! YES CANADA!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO GO LADIES!!!!! BRONZE!!!
Now if only our soccer team could pull it together.

That Mexican team is incredible. A 15 year old working with a veteran and they pull of a silver. Well done!
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What about China, how did they do??
 
A poignant story:

Semifinals Germany vs South Korea in women's fencing. A stoppage in play leaves 1 second left on the clock. The next touch advances to the gold medal round. Play restarts, Germany gets the next touch and the judges declare Germany the winner. BUT THE CLOCK NEVER STARTED so it wasn't clear whether it occurred within 1 second. The South Korean coach went to the judges and Lam (the fencer) sits on the piste in tears (leaving the piste means that you have officially accepted the judges' ruling) and waits. FOR 45 MINUTES. Judges rule Germany wins and security escorts Lam out. The crowd gives Lam a standing ovation.

Story is told much better with pictures, and video here:

"An Olympic Fencer Refuses To Leave The Floor After Getting Screwed"
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ktlincoln/an-olympic-fencer-refuses-to-leave-the-floor-after
 
WoBblyCaT said:
A poignant story:

Semifinals Germany vs South Korea in women's fencing. A stoppage in play leaves 1 second left on the clock. The next touch advances to the gold medal round. Play restarts, Germany gets the next touch and the judges declare Germany the winner. BUT THE CLOCK NEVER STARTED so it wasn't clear whether it occurred within 1 second. The South Korean coach went to the judges and Lam (the fencer) sits on the piste in tears (leaving the piste means that you have officially accepted the judges' ruling) and waits. FOR 45 MINUTES. Judges rule Germany wins and security escorts Lam out. The crowd gives Lam a standing ovation.

Story is told much better with pictures, and video here:

"An Olympic Fencer Refuses To Leave The Floor After Getting Screwed"
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ktlincoln/an-olympic-fencer-refuses-to-leave-the-floor-after
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That's tragic. I can't even fathom what that girl was going through at the time. I don't blame her for being upset at all and the other competitor must feel terrible as well. Just a bad spot for all of them to be in.
 
Her crying doesn't make her right. Judges will make correct and incorrect decisions. Sometimes the decision has more to do with the expediency of keeping a day on schedule than right and wrong. But once they've ruled she has to move on. She arguably cost herself the bronze medal.
 
Actually, there's a little enforced rule in fencing -- when a decision is being rendered by judges, to fencer or team who launched the appeal must stay on the piste until the issue is resolved.

The poor girl HAD to say on the piste, or her appeal would have been automatically rejected.
And 15 minutes later had to fence for the Bronze.

Amazing how stupid little rules can have a major outcome.
Had it happen to me in a semi final hockey game I was refereeing. Something like 45 seconds left in game. One team called a time out, buzzer went, other team tried to call time out. Can't do that. Can't stack time outs unless the second one is called BEFORE the first one expires.

Naturally, the team lost. Coaches freaked out. Harassed me all the way to the dressing room, riled up the fans to the point I was worried somebody was going to do something stupid. Asked the coach to wait outside the room, went in, got my rule book, looked up and showed him the rule. Stormed off whining about how a stupid rule cost his team. Sad.
 
WoBblyCaT said:
A poignant story:

Semifinals Germany vs South Korea in women's fencing. A stoppage in play leaves 1 second left on the clock. The next touch advances to the gold medal round. Play restarts, Germany gets the next touch and the judges declare Germany the winner. BUT THE CLOCK NEVER STARTED so it wasn't clear whether it occurred within 1 second. The South Korean coach went to the judges and Lam (the fencer) sits on the piste in tears (leaving the piste means that you have officially accepted the judges' ruling) and waits. FOR 45 MINUTES. Judges rule Germany wins and security escorts Lam out. The crowd gives Lam a standing ovation.

Story is told much better with pictures, and video here:

"An Olympic Fencer Refuses To Leave The Floor After Getting Screwed"
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ktlincoln/an-olympic-fencer-refuses-to-leave-the-floor-after
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German fans were outraged by this because their athlete was gonna have the final match in 2 hours and this BS dragged her more than an hour. German lost the final cuz their fans thought the german didn't have enough time to prepare for the final and she was disturbed by this emotionally.

I'm not saying the Koreans shouldn't protest, but they had an oral protest and the judges looked at the video tape for like 84 times and didn't change the ruling. They should have just accepted the result. instead, they handed in another protest, and dragged this **** for the longest that they could.

(I read these numbers somewhere and am not 100% sure if I remembered them correctly. so feel free to correct me if they are wrong.)
 
Fiery254 said:
Her crying doesn't make her right. Judges will make correct and incorrect decisions. Sometimes the decision has more to do with the expediency of keeping a day on schedule than right and wrong. But once they've ruled she has to move on. She arguably cost herself the bronze medal.
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i completed agree with this. judges' rulings are always the part of the games. sometimes they rule wrong (unintentionally or not). You exercise your right to protest/appeal and should accept the final ruling, especially fencing has the video tapes and all the technology to assist the judges. think about soccer, they never use any technology and the unfair rulings happen all the time. you just have to accept it sometimes.

In this case, those judges watched the video tape like a million times before making the final ruling. I'm not an expert at this sport at all but I have faith in the judges in this particular case.
 
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