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Would anyone argue with me if I said the middle class are just as bad for defaulting on loans compared to the trend of bailouts (which I agree destroy the economy)? That if you looked into all these people annoying bay street you would find defaulters and massive debt to income ratio?

It's not really a stretch to say a lot of people run up an incredible amount of debt and then just default, take a five year credit hit and get themselves right back into debt because they learn nothing from their failure.

A possible solution to some of the problem would be to simply buy what you want when you have the money for it...... deferred gratification. Would it not?

It used to be called will power, self control, impulse control etc.

I know this argument puts the blame back on Joe average but it's not necessarily a counter to the valid point of equal taxation.

In the past people would save their money for the things they wanted. I'll exclude houses and cars since you can't really save for a house but obviously I'm talking about unnecessary items like a 60 inch TV to replace a perfectly good 46 inch TV or the latest (insert "must have" item) when you have last years item that still works fine.

Not really saying you can't have stuff you want, just why run up your credit cards to $30K then balk on them?

I don't buy the "they get you with a low interest rate and then jack it up after a year" because if you use a credit card or credit in general you should be paying it down or paying it off each month aside from emergencies.

Agreed. Someone I know owed 60 k on credit cards and makes 45k a year so they declared bankruptcy. They need a car but are refusing to drive a hyundai and a trying to get a BMW. Idiots
 
Agreed. Someone I know owed 60 k on credit cards and makes 45k a year so they declared bankruptcy. They need a car but are refusing to drive a hyundai and a trying to get a BMW. Idiots

Wow... How did he get that much credit with so little income. This is exactly why I am a supporter of a heavily regulated credit/banking system, When someone becomes financially ruined we all hurt as a society. So much of the stupidity that caused the last recession (and future ones) should not have been allowed to happen.

Credit is an addiction for some people.
 
Wow... How did he get that much credit with so little income. This is exactly why I am a supporter of a heavily regulated credit/banking system, When someone becomes financially ruined we all hurt as a society. So much of the stupidity that caused the last recession (and future ones) should not have been allowed to happen.

Credit is an addiction for some people.

didnt say it was a he...the banks creep up your limit year over year as you continue to pay the minimum. then you get alll kinds of offers at stores and in the mail for pre approved...15 years later you are drowning. simple as that
 
A genuine cause has been tainted and perverted by the idiots of Toronto who have nothing better to do with their time. A lot of people involved in this are just there for "a protest", not "THE protest".
 
A genuine cause has been tainted and perverted by the idiots of Toronto who have nothing better to do with their time. A lot of people involved in this are just there for "a protest", not "THE protest"+

and what is THE protest then? care to enlighten us?
 
Wow... How did he get that much credit with so little income. This is exactly why I am a supporter of a heavily regulated credit/banking system, When someone becomes financially ruined we all hurt as a society. So much of the stupidity that caused the last recession (and future ones) should not have been allowed to happen.

Credit is an addiction for some people.

Its funny when someone told me another individual is paying off a credit card with another credit card. I'm like "Fo Realz??"

Then I read something like this and realize that there are many different kinds of ppl out there
 
The key quote in your post is " according to buffet" if you do a search for 2011 US tax rates you will see that the more you make the higher your tax rate percentage goes. The highest tax rate is triple the lowest one. Do some research don't just get excited that a rich guy claims the rich should be taxed more

He's provided the paperwork to back his claim. Plus, the article I linked to crunched their own numbers and came up with the 18% tax rate. That means if he's lying as you seem to be saying then he's also forged documents, and this media outlet is part of the duplicity.
 
I don't think they are protesting true innovators like the top guys at Apple.....it's financial companies that took govt money and gave themselves huge bonuses/raises.

The innovation at Apple, and almost every other company that has produced goods and services that have enriched our lives, is inextrictably intertwined with the financial system:

-Would anyone have these products if wall street hadnt provided companies with access to the equity markets?

-Would the brightest talent be willing to work at innovative start ups that dont have cash flow to pay them a decent salary, but can give them huge potential upside from stock options?

-If we didnt have globalization, do you think any of these products would be available at a price affordable to the average consumer?
 
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He's provided the paperwork to back his claim. Plus, the article I linked to crunched their own numbers and came up with the 18% tax rate. That means if he's lying as you seem to be saying then he's also forged documents, and this media outlet is part of the duplicity.

i even posted the graph of income tax rates in the us and you still cant accept the facts. you are out to lunch. here it is again
$0 – $6,000Nil
$6,001 – $37,00015c for each $1 over $6,000
$37,001 – $80,000$4,650 plus 30c for each $1 over $37,000
$80,001 – $180,000$17,550 plus 37c for each $1 over $80,000
Over $180,000$54,550 plus 45c for each $1 over $180,000
Taxable income Tax on this income
 
The innovation at Apple, and almost every other company that has produced goods and services that have enriched our lives, is inextrictably intertwined with the financial system:

-Would anyone have these products if wall street hadnt provided companies with access to the equity markets?

-Would the brightest talent be willing to work at innovative start ups that dont have cash flow to pay them a decent salary, but can give them huge potential upside from stock options?

-If we didnt have globalization, do you think any of these products would be available at a price affordable to the average consumer?

exactly...but the dummies dont like the facts they just like chanting hey hey ho ho (insert name here) has got to go
 
goods and services that have enriched our lives

... yet are not at all necessary to live them.

Do we seriously need the latest netapplebook 7 because it's faster? And by faster that usually means faster at becoming obsolete or a total POS that gets worse with every upgrade. Do we need to play "the fastest" games on our phones so much so that we should get yet another locked contract for three years so we can have something to kill a whole five minutes while waiting in a line?

Do we seriously need a social network so we can add 300+ people that we vaguely remember from highs chool and talk to maybe 10 of them?

Do I give a **** that some guy I met fifteen years ago and havn't seen since is eating Mc Donalds for lunch or can't wait for the weekend?

All this re branded **** that drives people into debt is the same **** it was when it was 5.1 or GEN 2 or 4 Gig and it's better yet it just doesn't last a year before it breaks or has to be replaced because it won't play the latest greatest trend game that's all the craze.

People want to blame someone for the mess but will never admit they contribute to it because they are so worried about how they will be judged when they pull out their phone to call someone for no real good reason other than they want perfect strangers to see them talking on their 5G mega ultraphone....

The banks are taking advantage of peoples frail self esteem and stupid need for absolute crap and then when they do, well, they are the bad guys.

I'm wishing for an Apocalypse so the world can be sorted out by survival of the fittest. Not breed in weakness and appease your 200 lbs ten year old with PlayStation 4 that will make his PS3 old and no fun any more..
 
i even posted the graph of income tax rates in the us and you still cant accept the facts. you are out to lunch. here it is again
$0 – $6,000
Nil
$6,001 – $37,000
15c for each $1 over $6,000
$37,001 – $80,000
$4,650 plus 30c for each $1 over $37,000
$80,001 – $180,000
$17,550 plus 37c for each $1 over $80,000
Over $180,000
$54,550 plus 45c for each $1 over $180,000

That's taxes on salary. It's only a fraction of his income tax. You keep coming back to this partial picture for some reason. Why are you purposely ignoring his dividend tax rate?
 
The innovation at Apple, and almost every other company that has produced goods and services that have enriched our lives, is inextrictably intertwined with the financial system:

Oddly, prior to having our lives 'enriched', there was no reason for the present type of demonstrations.
Kids played outdoors. They went to school. When that was done, they pretty much chose where they wanted to work, and applied for a job, and usually started the next day.
The middle class was the majority. It was in full swing doing it's part to keeping the economy afloat, and paying tax.
Too bad the 99% gang wants it eliminated.
 
That's taxes on salary. It's only a fraction of his income tax. You keep coming back to this partial picture for some reason. Why are you purposely ignoring his dividend tax rate?

this is like talking to a wall... for the very last time. his point was he pays a lower tax rate than his secreteries which he does not. He chooses to take dividends which are taxed at a lower rate after corporate taxes are paid on the profit. if he is conmcerned about paying the higher tax rate that any high income earner not able to take dividends would he should take his income as pure salry and he would be taxed as per the chart. THEREFORE...the more you make the higher your tax rate.
 
... yet are not at all necessary to live them.

You are right in that none of this is necessary to live. But IMO, having more choice is good, is it not? Stepping away from social media, smart phones etc for a moment, as motorcyclists, are we not enriched from having more technology on our bikes? Or would you have you have preferred a simpler time when all we had was bia ply tires and carbs? The funding to develop and make all of these cool toys available to you and I was made possible from the capitalist system.

If someone is so feeble minded that they buy something they cant truly afford, well, thats their own damn fault.
 
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I'm wishing for an Apocalypse so the world can be sorted out by survival of the fittest. Not breed in weakness and appease your 200 lbs ten year old with PlayStation 4 that will make his PS3 old and no fun any more..

LOL..an Apocalypse? It’s only an Apocalypse when you’re feeding off the government or in the banks. The paper Ponzi scheme is coming to an end for them.
We the productive people will live on. Their easy way of life is going to end so they are scaring the **** out people into thinking if you don’t save the banks, or all hell will break loose.
Banks and governments are essentially playing a parasitic role.
 
... yet are not at all necessary to live them.

Do we seriously need the latest netapplebook 7 because it's faster? And by faster that usually means faster at becoming obsolete or a total POS that gets worse with every upgrade. Do we need to play "the fastest" games on our phones so much so that we should get yet another locked contract for three years so we can have something to kill a whole five minutes while waiting in a line?

Do we seriously need a social network so we can add 300+ people that we vaguely remember from highs chool and talk to maybe 10 of them?

Do I give a **** that some guy I met fifteen years ago and havn't seen since is eating Mc Donalds for lunch or can't wait for the weekend?

All this re branded **** that drives people into debt is the same **** it was when it was 5.1 or GEN 2 or 4 Gig and it's better yet it just doesn't last a year before it breaks or has to be replaced because it won't play the latest greatest trend game that's all the craze.

People want to blame someone for the mess but will never admit they contribute to it because they are so worried about how they will be judged when they pull out their phone to call someone for no real good reason other than they want perfect strangers to see them talking on their 5G mega ultraphone....

The banks are taking advantage of peoples frail self esteem and stupid need for absolute crap and then when they do, well, they are the bad guys.

I'm wishing for an Apocalypse so the world can be sorted out by survival of the fittest. Not breed in weakness and appease your 200 lbs ten year old with PlayStation 4 that will make his PS3 old and no fun any more..

well if you wish for the apocalypse you better move to acreage with a well, septic, backup power ,big dogs, horses for transport ,a compound bow and a safe full of guns and ammo for protection and hunting. in other words copy me
 
Yea and that's mostly what I was pointing out.... going into debt for it.

However, if it truly is better, why does it last a few months instead of several years?

And, why do we feel we have to replace (the smaller) things when there is nothing wrong with them in the first place?

My parent's phone hung in the kitchen for fifteen years and when it rang we would answer it and the message got passed....
 
Oddly, prior to having our lives 'enriched', there was no reason for the present type of demonstrations.
Kids played outdoors. They went to school. When that was done, they pretty much chose where they wanted to work, and applied for a job, and usually started the next day.
The middle class was the majority. It was in full swing doing it's part to keeping the economy afloat, and paying tax.
Too bad the 99% gang wants it eliminated.

you should read history. many uprisings and social unrest going back to biblical times
 
well if you wish for the apocalypse you better move to acreage with a well, septic, backup power ,big dogs, horses for transport ,a compound bow and a safe full of guns and ammo for protection and hunting. in other words copy me

Got all that shy of big dogs and a horse.

I plan on picking off every other slow to react person as they start coming my way....

Same idea, different game plan.

Why get the supplies when they will drive them right to me, ya know :)
 

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