November 1st- Happy World Vegan Day!

smc said:
Again humans have to cook an animal before eating it, totally different then anything else.
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SOOOOOO wrong.
I understand that you are against eating meat, but please, stop spouting falsehoods at every opportunity. We can eat selected (no pork or chicken) raw meat without issue as long as it doesn't have worms etc.
 
knucklesound said:
How can you tell if someone ISN'T vegan?
Don't worry- as soon as they find out you are they will become nutritional experts and tell you that you can't be healthy on your 'extremist' diet or start telling you how unnatural your diet is....
Hahaha.
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Yep. And bacon.

Also did you buy those Beyond Meat burgers? I wasn't too impressed with their regular frozen burgers. Would try those new ones though.
 
Joe Bass said:
Curious if any of the vegans that have posted already are raw vegans? Met a few people that swear by that lifestyle. Know a raw vegan chef that makes a surprisingly tasty zucchini cashew lasagna.

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Personally I could never get adjusted to loving the raw food taste. It tastes not bad, but it's definitely a lifestyle for someone who likes to prepare food a lot. Which isn't me.
 
If a vegan eats pussy, is he still a vegan??





I'll show myself out
 
Getting into vegan could be a problem with the poor choice of veggies available in supermarkets. We've lost so many varieties of veggies due to mono-cropping for expedient sizes and shipping factors. Organic has the same market structures. They look OK and keep well but have a fraction of the nutrition of heritage varieties.

GMO is a whole other thing. I don't know why people worry about terrorism. The "Food Inc" boys will kill us off sooner. Soylent Green?

Also the general population won't have to spend as much time shopping or prepping meals and we know the expectations of work and play. Something has got to give.

The prosperity in China means they are able to afford more meat. I'm not sure I could drop meat completely but cutting back to a few ounces a day I could make a cow last forever.
 
nobbie48 said:
Also eat ants and bugs that are basically mini meats.

If vegans and vegetarians are anti meat why do they eat fake meat? There's something in the taste. Admit it.

Fake meat, fake beer, fake leather.
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same reason I play violent video games but would never assault someone in real life.
 
-D- said:
Can someone please tell me how their are fat vegans/vegetarians???
seriously asking
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Fat vegan here. I used to be 320, lost about 40lbs, the. Went vegan and lost 60, have been around 220 for a few years now, vegan for 8 years now.

I literally eat vegan versions of everything "bad"; Mac and cheese, tacos, grilled cheese, poutine, burgers and dogs, waffles, cake, baked nachos, pizza Nova has vegan pizza, Asian food, tons of mayo on every sandwich, deep fried stuff

Then there's stuff that's accidentally vegan; Oreos, dads cookies, loads of candy, passion flakies.

i eat bananas sometimes, avocados on my burgers and as guacamole, but other veggies and fruits, maybe in a smoothie if my wife is making it haha
 
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mimico_polak said:
@JB I share your love of McD's once a week...so damn delicious and horrible all at once!

As for vegans, never tried it, and doesn't appeal to me because I love to eat meat. What I have an issue with is the militant way that the minority of them go after others for eating meat. As if we're monsters and theirs is the only enlightened way and all else is evil. Dated a girl once and we broke up as soon as she got onto her high horse because she's vegan and I wasn't...then met a few others who did the same thing and it just turned me off that. Eat what you want to eat, same as pray to whatever higher being you want to pray, but don't be a ****** to those that don't share your belief.

So Happy World Vegan Day!
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heres the thing that bugs me the most about that, veganism isn't a "belief" like a religion. It's based on cold hard facts. Animals are sentient, and everyone knows about factory farming...so really there's no other way. You either act or you don't. Think about how many brilliant people express love for their pets and disdain for elephant and dolphin hunting. The reason they pretend to care about those particular issues is that it doesn't require them to change anything about their perfect lives. Talk about horrific animal abuse on a Canadian dairy farm and you may as well have killed their newborn. They're unwilling to make the connection, those brilliant minds.

I think the religion comparison (brought up a LOT) is what really triggers me. This isn't just some crazy person dancing around a statue or speaking in tongues. This is reality.
 
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sesamestreet said:
heres the thing that bugs me the most about that, veganism isn't a "belief" like a religion. It's based on cold hard facts. Animals are sentient, and everyone knows about factory farming....
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Very true.
I imagine most people on this message board would want to kick the **** out of a person who treated a dog the way pigs are routinely treated.
Mimico_polak- did you watch the video i posted- or any that your ex probably tried to force you to watch? Are you ok with animals being treated like that?
Most people aren't, but society has progressed to this point and we usually don't get confronted with this touchy subject so it usually stays hidden until some 'extremist' points it out...(somehow, trying to live your life without harming others has been labelled extreme, but animal abuse is 'normal'.)
I think most people like yourself are generally kind and compassionate, and would prefer if this **** didn't happen.
There is a LOT of $ behind the industries that profit from this- and very little $ behind the alternatives. When was the last commercial you saw for tofu or pea protein or any healthy food for that matter?
I can assure you that any preachy crap you think you get from the vocal vegan-types- is not even close to the amount of ridicule and constant bombardment we get from the animal agriculture/meat industry, or from the mmmmmmmbacon-types who troll or can't tell you enough how they could never give up meat- but then refuse to watch anything that shows how their food is treated. What other aspect of your life do you have immediate control of- yet have to block out so you can continue to partake? i can't think of any? Most people don't like to be accused of causing harm, and the first reaction (especially when vegans get too 'preachy') is to get defensive and confrontational right back at them...i think the point SesameStreet was trying to make- is that it is easy to talk about how we hate animal abuse or injustices- but we have a chance at 3 meals per day to reduce violence and suffering- but often don't. Myself included. It took me a long time to give up dairy- even after i knew what a horrible industry it was.
It can be frustrating to talk about this sometimes- and i think that is the reason that some people get aggro when they discuss it is much like you'd likely be super-aggro if you saw someone kicking a dog or a cat? But, if you are discounting the message because you don't like the messenger, that is kinda lame. Do vegans have a point? Is there a hypocrisy in society when it comes to 'food' animals? If there is- what is the motivation for it?
Tradition, habit, convenience, taste. We've grown up doing it- and a lot of us have happy moments tied to it. (Xmas dinners, etc), but when you really, REALLY look at it- it goes against what many of us are ethically comfortable with. Obviously- everyone has the right to disagree, but it think if we were to truly live by our shared morals/ethics/whatever, animals would not be reduced to unfeeling, profitable products.



I know how i feel when i see a video like this vs the farm footage i posted earlier.[video=youtube;vQwZk5TLNug]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQwZk5TLNug[/video]

Check out Mercy for Animals- if anyone is interested in learning more about the issues from some kind, sane people who are trying to bring this stuff to light- and check out the movie Earthlings.
 
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nyx said:
Also did you buy those Beyond Meat burgers? I wasn't too impressed with their regular frozen burgers. Would try those new ones though.
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Haven't tried them yet. Never tried the regular ones either. I'm really happy with the Gardein frozen beefless burgers- and i've recently been picking up the Field Roast burgers at Organic Garage in Oakville. I like them too.
The Beyond burgers are only available in the USA right now and are still only in select stores. Been getting great reviews from meat-eaters and veggies so hopefully as production ramps up they will make their way up here soon-ish.
I'd be willing to head across the border on a ride in the spring if they are still not available here and anyone wants to make the trek to try them.
 
@knucklesound - yes I did watch the video, and countless others of the horrors of animal abuse and how they are treated. It sucks, and it's sad that companies resort to this level of inhumane treatment in the mass killing of animals. Unfortunately there are not many options for those of us that want to eat their meat, and hope that the companies we purchase from treat the animal humanely. I'm not going to give up meat, as I enjoy it, fully knowing what the truth behind the killing is. I'm not a hunter, so really there are very little options in me being able to purchase 'humanely' slaughtered meat for my consumption. As I said before, I personally don't have any issue with vegans, vegetarians or any other lifestyle choices that people. My choice is to eat meat and no amount of videos or cow hugging will change that.
 
BigEvilDoer said:
Please engage brain and stop following feel good slop mindlessly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMIbl6doV6U&ab_channel=killtheayatollah
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Already admitted to being wrong there.

BigEvilDoer said:
SOOOOOO wrong.
I understand that you are against eating meat, but please, stop spouting falsehoods at every opportunity. We can eat selected (no pork or chicken) raw meat without issue as long as it doesn't have worms etc.
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I like not having worms. Yes there's some meat you can eat raw, but if you saw someone take a bite out off a live fish you'd probably avoid them. And seriously your canines will not let you tear apart a cow.

nyx said:
Carbs.
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Wrong carbs. I lost 140lbs on a vegetarian diet of mostly carbs, but extremely high fiber carbs. If you're on a vegan diet of sugary cereals and potato chips, that's not going to work.

sesamestreet said:
religion.
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Indeed, this thread will go someplace bad. Any discussion on diet, but especially vegans goes wrong. I think people automatically assume all vegans are the shout in-your-face sort which isn't true. In real life I just politely decline meat offers and I don't discuss any of my own choices unless asked.
 
mimico_polak said:
Unfortunately there are not many options for those of us that want to eat their meat, and hope that the companies we purchase from treat the animal humanely. I'm not going to give up meat, as I enjoy it, fully knowing what the truth behind the killing is. I'm not a hunter, so really there are very little options in me being able to purchase 'humanely' slaughtered meat for my consumption.
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Aw poor you, you're so helpless :'(
 
To chime in... The human species is primarily fruit based, not meat or vegetables. In-fact we hardly have the ability to properly digest any vegetables, its a slow process and cows/horses etc.. have larger tracts for proper breakdown.

For most arguments here, for proper education please read nutrition books prior to the 1950s and 40s, when studies were done without much commercial entities, work by guys like Henry Bieler and Ehret. Also, check out Dr. Morse on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZN3HGiS4zw), he has hundreds of videos, including curing paralysis, aids, and cancer using fruits and herbs alone.

I encourage everyone to try before saying what is wrong or right, an open mind goes a long way, and educate with credible sources. Too many twats on the web/youtube etc saying whats best only because they do it, and haven't helped a soul.

Personally, I grew up in Kenya, mostly meat eating society. Then switched to vegetables, and grains, then down to vegan, then raw, and finally fruits and nuts. I got sick of hearing theories on whats best and not, so tried it all for months, read books and lots of videos. It comes down to acid/alkaline and whats least processed, fruits win hands down.

If you eat food that's dead, you die, and such disease begins, which is simply dis-ease broken down for the body. If you eat food that lives, you live.;)
 
sesamestreet said:
Aw poor you, you're so helpless :'(
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Thanks for keeping up my stereotype of smug vegans...I said before you do your thing and I'll respect that, and I ask the same from you. No need for snarky comments about my choices.
 
Been veg for about 10 years now. It's good, I like it and it helps that we grow lot's of our own veggies.
Next year I would like to start planting some fruit trees.
Do what works for you at whatever point you are in your life.
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