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New truck - Engine / Transmission issues. Going to argue for dealer to give me a new a truck - frustrated.

So some people were messaging me asking me for an update, figured I'd do one in case someone else is in a similar circumstances.

Truck is still at the dealership, still have a rental, it's been 7 weeks now. I called the parts manager (who I'm not angry with, they are just fixing the truck) who told me the part they need (valve assembly for the transmission) is back ordered until July 11th. He also told me he's seen this a lot recently - the computer says July 11th but when that date comes around the computer will then push it too July 26, and then August 10 and so fourth. The chances of it being available and here for July 11th are extremely slim.

I got back in touch with GM customer care and asked for a supervisor right off the hop. Instead I talked to a nice lady (will leave out names) who calmed me down and said she will see this through. Told her the story and mentioned I want a new truck or at the very least my payments covered - this was last Tuesday. She said give me 72 business hours and she will call the dealership I bought the truck from and the dealership it's being repaired at and we will have an answer for you. She opened up a ticket and emailed this conversation to me, the past 2 useless reps had not done that.

Fast forward to this week....Wednesday, still no call - that's 86 business hours. I'm at work so I write a long email - detailing that I in no way want this truck back. I just want a new one - that's it. Otherwise give me what it's worth in money and I'll take the hit to shop elsewhere. With the 7 weeks gone now I've also missed prior things I had planned for my holidays - camping, kayaking, canoeing, shooting....things I needed my truck for this summer that I'm not doing in a rental. I mention all of the above that it's not just a truck in repair - it's affecting my personal life as I bought brand new to get reliability out of a vehicle....instead it's been the better part of the summer gone.

She emails me back later in the day. She says she has been reassigned to my case, and is now looking into what can be done. She needs an additional 72 business hours to see if I can receive a new truck.

As you can imagine I fire off another email, but I ******. It more or less highlights wtf have you been doing for the other 72 hours? You want me to give you an additional 72 hours, to do what you told me you were going to do 72 hours ago? Email goes on about disappointment, frustration, unprofessionalism, and lack of interest from a company for its consumers that keep it afloat. And it reiterates I do NOT want my truck back. Period. I don't want to see it, I don't want to ******* drive it. The only way to continue to have me, my family, and to not influence everyone I know NOT to by GM is to give me another truck - and given the circumstances I don't think that's a tough call.

I get an email back the next day outlining she's working with her supervisor giving me the best possible outcome and is looking at a possible new vehicle. Sorry for the frustration again but I need to wait for Friday and she will call me back with more information.

So...that about sums it up. Brand new truck, in the shop going on 2 months now with no ETA on parts or repair and GM hasn't done a god damn thing yet.

As someone who is tier 1 mfg (supply directly to OEM plants/dealerships) supply chain has not really improved since Covid started shutting people down.

Basically no one has stock of anything because either capacity has been affected or the prices have shot through the moon.

I would say if any OEM gives you what feels like the run around on getting parts, it’s legit. They likely haven’t a clue, even we (tier 1) can’t give the customers much info because we’re still waiting on timing from our suppliers.
 
I doubt she's stonewalling you, my personal suspicions would be that there are no repair parts AND no replacement vehicles.
Demand a full refund - see if that gets you anywhere.
I asked my local Ford dealer last December to call me when they had a Maverick in stock so I could take a look at it and maybe a test drive - so far nothing.
I waved money at them - crickets...
I finally saw one on the road. Reminds me a lot of the Sport Trac. That wasn't a good thing. I was expecting it to look more like a truck and less like an urban wanker toy.
 
And for me I don't think the situation is getting any better, in fact I think it's getting worse...

Concur.

As the microchips situation ‘appears’ to be improving the OEMs are ramping up production again. So that’s going to affect a supply chain already working with constraints.

Shutting down an OEM plant line is about $120,000 USD/hr. So If you’re getting warranty or service work you’re going to be right at the bottom of anyones priority.
 
I finally saw one on the road. Reminds me a lot of the Sport Trac. That wasn't a good thing. I was expecting it to look more like a truck and less like an urban wanker toy.
I like the Maverick...and also the Sport Trac actually.

To me...seems like a good compromise b/w a sedan / truck .... sort of like the Ridgeline.

I'd buy one...but I would prefer a hybrid AWD version.
 
Concur.

As the microchips situation ‘appears’ to be improving the OEMs are ramping up production again. So that’s going to affect a supply chain already working with constraints.

Shutting down an OEM plant line is about $120,000 USD/hr. So If you’re getting warranty or service work you’re going to be right at the bottom of anyones priority.
Yup. Keep the plants fed first. Try to finish the orphaned vehicles waiting for parts so they can be sold next. Somewhere further down the line is fixing vehicles for people that already bought them. They have already booked the sale, got the vehicle out of inventory (ie generated executive bonuses) and are continuing to get payments. No real downside for them other than reputation. They all do it so that's a wash. The competitor doesn't have stock either so it's not simple for you to sell and buy something else. Hell, selling is a disaster as the truck isn't running. If you could find a buyer for that, you would take a huge kick in the nuts as they don't know when/if it will be repaired.
 
Yup. Keep the plants fed first. Try to finish the orphaned vehicles waiting for parts so they can be sold next. Somewhere further down the line is fixing vehicles for people that already bought them. They have already booked the sale, got the vehicle out of inventory (ie generated executive bonuses) and are continuing to get payments. No real downside for them other than reputation. They all do it so that's a wash. The competitor doesn't have stock either so it's not simple for you to sell and buy something else. Hell, selling is a disaster as the truck isn't running. If you could find a buyer for that, you would take a huge kick in the nuts as they don't know when/if it will be repaired.
And in my world, USA is getting fed first then when the backorders are cleared they get to the Canadian dealers.
 
I like the Maverick...and also the Sport Trac actually.

To me...seems like a good compromise b/w a sedan / truck .... sort of like the Ridgeline.

I'd buy one...but I would prefer a hybrid AWD version.
I'd have to play with one but I suspect the bed is too small to be at all useful. If I need a trailer for everything anyway, I might as well have that space as dry, secure interior space (or a smaller vehicle that is more convenient). I would argue that style (sport trac, baja, santa cruz) is the worst of all worlds. It may work for some but I expect the vast majority never have the truck bed used for truck things.
 
And for me I don't think the situation is getting any better, in fact I think it's getting worse...

I'm on the tooling / automation side. Without that, new stuff doesn't get built. Old stuff can keep getting built until the tooling wears out or something breaks but the clock is ticking.

We have been coping until recently by substituting brands and scavenging decommissioned equipment and digging parts out of spares but that only goes on for so long, and now you've got no spares. If an operator interface screen or a safety I/O card kicks the bucket now, you're screwed.

That's why it's getting worse...

And I'm off work today because the scheduled project isn't ready, because they can't get parts to finish it!
 
I'm on the tooling / automation side. Without that, new stuff doesn't get built. Old stuff can keep getting built until the tooling wears out or something breaks but the clock is ticking.

We have been coping until recently by substituting brands and scavenging decommissioned equipment and digging parts out of spares but that only goes on for so long, and now you've got no spares. If an operator interface screen or a safety I/O card kicks the bucket now, you're screwed.

That's why it's getting worse...

And I'm off work today because the scheduled project isn't ready, because they can't get parts to finish it!
Do you think anything will be changed long term in supply chain management, or were there no lessons to be learned from all... this
 
I like the Maverick...and also the Sport Trac actually.

To me...seems like a good compromise b/w a sedan / truck .... sort of like the Ridgeline.

I'd buy one...but I would prefer a hybrid AWD version.
I have a Maverick hybrid. Absolutely love it. Easy to navigate in my condo parking garage. Fits a motorcycle in the back. 73mpg in traffic. Yes that is correct. Cheap. Perfect vehicle.
 
I have a Maverick hybrid. Absolutely love it. Easy to navigate in my condo parking garage. Fits a motorcycle in the back. 73mpg in traffic. Yes that is correct. Cheap. Perfect vehicle.
Wow! Nice to hear real world thoughts on it!
 
I have a Maverick hybrid. Absolutely love it. Easy to navigate in my condo parking garage. Fits a motorcycle in the back. 73mpg in traffic. Yes that is correct. Cheap. Perfect vehicle.
How long did you have to wait ?
 
I have a Maverick hybrid. Absolutely love it. Easy to navigate in my condo parking garage. Fits a motorcycle in the back. 73mpg in traffic. Yes that is correct. Cheap. Perfect vehicle.
nice. what bike? is it diagonally? its customary to provide pictures :)
 
I don’t leave the quiet of the Forrest very often but I drove to Pearson a couple months back and must have seen a dozen Mavericks on the way. Things were everywhere. Ok looking “trucks”.
 
I'd take every other trucksticle on the road in my neighbourhood being a Maverick over what I get now - a whole lotta of lifted small penis diesels flying Canadian flags out the bed
 

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