Motorcycle Parking Fees Recommended without Notice or Public Consultation

Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today

Great info Face.

Apparently MMIC (Motorcycle & Moped Industry Council) is preparing a response to the City as well - on behalf of manufacturers and dealers.
 
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today

Great info Face.

Apparently MMIC (Motorcycle & Moped Industry Council) is preparing a response to the City as well - on behalf of manufacturers and dealers.

Thanks,

Good to hear about MMIC. When I spoke to them, they put me over to MCC.

BTW, still no response to my e-mail, from Councillor Wong-Tam - see my post #251. I hear that her big issue is about clogging up boulevard space. She is also going after developers who get permits to extend hoarding onto the boulevards when they build. She seconded Del Grande's motion, but if we loose free street parking, it just tempts more scooters to park on the boulevard. I'm wondering if we can bring her around? Let's keep the pressure on, especially those of you who live in Ward 27, http://www.toronto.ca/wards2000/ward27.htm
 
Re: City council voting on getting rid of free parking for motorcycles today

http://www.wheels.ca/article/801532

[h=1]Two-wheeler parking payments are short-sighted[/h]
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David Cooper/DAVID COOPER / TORONTO STAR FILE PHOTO
Motorcycles are parked on the north side of Front street near Bay St.

Steve Bond
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

This month, Toronto City Council voted 28-2 to review the issue of free parking at pay-and-display spots for motorcycles on city streets, with the results due in February.
Since 2006, motorcycles and scooters have been exempt from parking levies in the Big Smoke, but if budget chief Mike Del Grande and Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam have their way, that practice will end.
Del Grande said when he was going through the budget that, “there are all kinds of freebies that still exist.”
Freebies? I guess he’s not familiar with the term “incentive.” It’s doubtful that either of the interested parties read Wheels (which is an enthusiast’s publication), but if someone could pass this along, “incentive” means “something that tends to incite to action or greater effort, as a reward offered for increased productivity.”
It’s the same as stores absorbing the sales tax, or promoting Boxing Day Sales where prices are chopped significantly — they’re both types of incentives to get people in the door, and the reward is increased sales for the retailers.
In this case, the incentive is that motorcycles and scooters don’t pay for parking downtown. The reward is less congestion on city streets, less fossil fuel consumed and a smaller carbon footprint.
Seems to be a fairly high reward for very little expenditure.
Three or four motorcycles can easily park in the space reserved for one vehicle and any motorcycle will take up less space on the road than even the smallest car.
Del Grande says he doesn’t even know how much the city is “losing” by allowing motorcycles to park for free. In an statement, he said, “Even if it’s a dollar, it’s a dollar that should go into city coffers.”
Brilliant. We don’t know how much more we’ll be taking in, but let’s add to congestion and emissions and find out.
So for five, going on six years now, the City of Toronto has taken a giant, cost-effective, proactive step in alleviating traffic and pollution by promoting motorcycles, scooters and bicycles as the vehicle of choice in the city. And now because it’s working, they’re going to stop it.
This is the same type of thinking that hopes for increased TTC ridership, while raising fares and cutting routes.
Councillors Adam Vaughan and Joe Mihivec were the only two to vote against having the review. Vaughan said this is just another cash grab by the Ford administration, that won’t help ease congestion.
Part of the issue is the lack of a secure, weather-proof location on two-wheelers to affix the pay-and-display receipt. In a CBC interview, Del Grande was asked directly how a motorcyclist should affix this tag and replied, “There’s ways.” Succinct, but not too informative.
In a CP24 interview, Wong-Tam commented that it also “has a lot to do with public safety. I’ve seen 750cc and 1200cc motorcycles roll onto the sidewalk while the engine is still on.”
But parking on the sidewalk is already illegal and has nothing to do with free on-street parking. If council wants to generate revenue, how about targeting the riders who are abusing the system and illegally parking on sidewalks?
I’m sure there are many ways to generate more revenue or cut costs in the City of Toronto, but eliminating free motorcycle parking seems to have more drawbacks than tangible benefits.
Here’s one idea: apply parking fees proportional to the size of the vehicle. Motorcycles and scooters park for free, small cars and hybrids $2, while pickup trucks, SUVs and minivans pay $10. If they really want to eliminate congestion while boosting revenue, this would be a good first step, seeing as the larger vehicles obviously take up the most space while getting the worst fuel consumption.
While you’re at it, councillors, you should take a look at eliminating those larger, blue parking spots with wheelchairs painted on them. By combining two of those spaces, you could get three “regular” spots and stop more “freebies” at the same time.
You said it yourself: “Every dollar counts.”
 
Great article. !
 
Good article.

Emailed my councillor, also sending email to all Toronto friends/relatives to contact their councillors too!
 
City of Toronto council wants to charge bike parking

http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801532

As the article states, it's entirely idiotic. If this does go through we need to make our voices heard and ensure the city doesn't make stupid decisions like rescinding smart decisions like allowing free parking for low-emission and small-footprint vehicles.
 
The Star article on Free Motorcycle Parking in the City of Toronto...

Looks like our council has decided to proceed with the review...let's see what develops from this...

http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801532

Has anyone begun any petition against this or commentary on it that can be sent out? I believe I've seen posts with people sending their emails to their councilor with mixed results on another post here on the GTAM.
 
Re: The Star article on Free Motorcycle Parking in the City of Toronto...

Thanks for the link. The other post is stickied in the general section, you'll find all the letters and links in there
 
Re: City of Toronto council wants to charge bike parking

http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801532

As the article states, it's entirely idiotic. If this does go through we need to make our voices heard and ensure the city doesn't make stupid decisions like rescinding smart decisions like allowing free parking for low-emission and small-footprint vehicles.

it IS going ahead - read the sticky for how we can deal with it and make a difference or contribute to the discussion on this so they make a better decision that affects us all.

Even, if you dont come into the city often or frequently, it has consequences.
 
Motorcycle Parking in Toronto

Hi All,

I usually just lurk these pages for some interesting news or rides that people are going on, but this time I'm posting and need a little help from you.

The City of Toronto is planning on removing free parking for motorcycles, however, you can have a say in this matter. Please click the link below and sign the petition. Even if you're not a rider, it would be great if you could help out!

Thanks in advance!

http://www.petitiononlinecanada.com...es-for-motorcycles-and-motorized-scooters/619
 
Re: Motorcycle Parking in Toronto

why are they trying to charge us now anyway?

its really hard for us, unless they change the system of not using parking receipt.
 
Re: Motorcycle Parking in Toronto

Sorry, I should have added that to the post. Here is the latest news from city hall regarding the issue.
http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801532

As for the parking receipt, there are machines out there that use your license plate as a method of tracking paid parking, however, our city does not use them. It would cost the City a fortune to replace all the current machines to different ones and this would totally go against their thinking of "we need to get every penny out of people and into the City's coffers".
 
Re: Motorcycle Parking in Toronto

I signed it at the show.

This could have been added to the courent thread which people are probably already subsribed to cause it's an important topic.

Thanks for the help, But please do sign the petition. It is the most up to date.

btw this is the third parking thread today:)
 
Re: Motorcycle Parking in Toronto

awesome. hopefully we will be heard.


EDIT: Thanks for consolidating these posts! much appreciated! :)
 
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