Motorcycle Gang Confrontation

[Neil_V]

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Lol. You really like to use excessive suggestions in changes to one's life.

You could easily become a victim of mirror smashing by trying to gtfo of their way and accidentally get in the way of special individual speeding by which would be nearly impossible to spot once you're in the middle of a swarm.

It's like someone parking right out front of your house and revving their engines to "enjoy the sound of the bikes" and saying "The noise is part of living in the 4th or 5th largest city in North America, don't like it? Move to TBay".

You can pretty much say any and all types of stupidity, regardless if it were bike, car, and shootings is part of citylife and should move away.

I thought we were talking traffic

 

[vrus]

I'm starting a gang to combat these gangs.

Who's with me

 

[Neil_V]

There were no victims here. Just stupid finding stupid

Victims were people getting stuck in traffic while all this was going on.

Stuck in traffic = victim? A bit over the top, no?

Sure, more like I don't like being inconvenienced due to someone else's stupidity. Just like how you wouldn't want to be stuck on a ramp while all this is going down with nowhere to go. Then there's the chain reaction of everybody else pulling stupid moves to get out of the situation.

Who does? We all have somewhere to be, or some super important thing (to ourselves) that we need to be doing. Are we victimized when some special interest group shuts a street down for a weekend festival because traffic jams? It's the nature of living in the 4th or 5th largest city in North America. Don't like the chaos; maybe Sudbury.

Oh yeah, we were...

 

[Face]

I don't buy that argument at all. Forcillo tried to use that explanation and failed, because it simply wasn't true. That doesn't set a precedent that no other individual can ever legitimately be threatened. The NYC case previously cited has already supported Griff's view.

I was talking about Griff's ready-made defence for venting anger on sport bikes. As others have said, if the driver didn't escalate the situation, he wouldn't be in a situation in which he felt threatened. I'm not justifying or supporting the riders in any way. Just agreeing with others, if you don't like the way they're riding, call 911. Don't put yourself and others in danger by forcing a confrontation.

 

[Neil_V]

Or as PLau pointed out back on page 5, don't throw peach pits whist trying to navigate your way to the front of the mob (re NY)

"Ms. Ng said the conflict started in Lower Manhattan when her husband tried to navigate through the horde of motorcycles. Frustrated with the traffic and the swarm of bikers, she threw a half-eaten plum out the window at one of them.

A few minutes later, she said, her husband exchanged heated words with a biker on a heavy motorcycle, and the biker, in turn, punched the S.U.V.’s side-view mirror and broke it.
When she tried to take photos of that motorcyclist, three others began to ride in front of the car, slowing down and making threatening gestures toward her, she said. She opened the moon roof and threw a half-empty water bottle at them “to shoo them away,” but the wind carried it back to her, and they started laughing, she said.
“In hindsight, I feel it was really silly,” she said."

 

[kiwi]

Read on cbc.ca article:

"At about 10:30 p.m. police were called about a group of "crotch-rocket" style motorcycles riding together and impeding traffic on the westbound Highway 401 at Dixie Road."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/road-rage-mississauga-1.3775486


Kind of expected to be reading a line like that on The Sun, not CBC. Lol!


Meanwhile in Houston, there was Road Rage incident where the Rider has Died.

http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/katy/article/Fatal-motorcycle-crash-blocks-Katy-Freeway-9241381.php

Police said the driver of a black Harley Davidson motorcycle and the driver of a silver Saturn Vue were both eastbound on the service road when they became involved in a dispute and began changing lanes.
The Saturn driver changed lanes to the right as the motorcyclist tried to pass the Saturn and the two collided.
The motorcyclist died at the scene. The Saturn driver stopped and waited at the scene for officers to arrive. Officers questioned and released the person.

 

[Baggsy]

Re: Griff hard on material

No, I think we're talking the same guy. Your perception is just predictably more of an anti motorcyclist diatribe.. You need to stop adding such sensational spin man.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/texting-driving-video-charges-1.3744432

He confronted the driver, and escalated the situation. But cars should do the opposite?

I'm not anti motorcyclist, I'm more anti stupidity, and anti hogging the road.

Not getting the do as I say not as I do logic here.

 

[Roadghost]

Lots of assumptions in this thread, mainly based on questionable news stories with questionable statements by police who themselves seem to be presuming a few things. So a few punks on bikes take over the 401 for a few minutes to pull wheelies and generally behave like morons by holding up the traffic, or so we're told. So what? It's not like we haven't seen this before, but were they actually holding up traffic? Or, were the bikers travelling at an acceptable speed (80-100mph) and a couple of drugged-out hot heads got angry about it? Look at the KNOWN facts about the loser who took off after the bikers:
The man, a 22-year-old from Kitchener, is also now facing charges including:

• Drug possession.
• Driving while under suspension.
• Dangerous driving.

"Driving while under suspension". Not exactly the stuff that would have you relying on his credibility. He and the girl sound pretty sketchy to me.

The bikers? Probably the same crew we saw a week ago. Yeah, they ride foolishly, but nobody else got into a confrontation with them. I say the people in the cage were the cause of the whole thing. All they had to do is be a little patient and the riders would have been gone.

 

[RockerGuy]

Re: Griff hard on material

Sounds like modern day episode of dukes of hazard lol

I wonder who's wearing the short denim??

 

[jc100]

Lots of assumptions in this thread, mainly based on questionable news stories with questionable statements by police who themselves seem to be presuming a few things. So a few punks on bikes take over the 401 for a few minutes to pull wheelies and generally behave like morons by holding up the traffic, or so we're told. So what? It's not like we haven't seen this before, but were they actually holding up traffic? Or, were the bikers travelling at an acceptable speed (80-100mph) and a couple of drugged-out hot heads got angry about it? Look at the KNOWN facts about the loser who took off after the bikers:
The man, a 22-year-old from Kitchener, is also now facing charges including:

• Drug possession.
• Driving while under suspension.
• Dangerous driving.

"Driving while under suspension". Not exactly the stuff that would have you relying on his credibility. He and the girl sound pretty sketchy to me.

The bikers? Probably the same crew we saw a week ago. Yeah, they ride foolishly, but nobody else got into a confrontation with them. I say the people in the cage were the cause of the whole thing. All they had to do is be a little patient and the riders would have been gone.

I think we should barricade the door to your house with a New Orleans style brass band so you can't leave. Just be patient though, they'll be on their way soon.

 

[yodude]

So a few punks on bikes take over the 401 for a few minutes to pull wheelies and generally behave like morons by holding up the traffic, or so we're told. So what?

so what for you but likely totally unacceptable for most

no point in getting all rattled about this deal, it will get alot better and become clear cut when the hammer drops

and bad news for bikers

 

[jc100]

Here's a so what...what if an ambulance is held up carrying someone you know because of these dickheads? Is that still grounds to just be patient and let them have their fun?

 

[yodude]

Originally Posted by Neil_V

Who does? We all have somewhere to be, or some super important thing (to ourselves) that we need to be doing. Are we victimized when some special interest group shuts a street down for a weekend festival because traffic jams? It's the nature of living in the 4th or 5th largest city in North America. Don't like the chaos; maybe Sudbury.

depends what it's about, good luck with swarming stunting speed freaks, that can pop up anywhere at anytime, including reckless wanton lawbreaking in a type/league of one, with complete disregard for others

most are piszed by it, period & smackdown is coming,

see any support anywhere in mainstream media?

 

[sonyminidiscman]

I gotta say, this girl's story doesn't add up. I'd say she started it, now that she got KO'ed she is playing victim to the media

 

[Blackfin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLkHISPuQGA

 

[Roadghost]

Here's a so what...what if an ambulance is held up carrying someone you know because of these dickheads? Is that still grounds to just be patient and let them have their fun?

But there was no ambulance. You're also assuming that the riders were actually holding up traffic by going slow - because some woman who got punched in the face said so. No proof of that. We're hanging our own brothers here before we have all the facts.

 

[Roadghost]

so what for you but likely totally unacceptable for most

no point in getting all rattled about this deal, it will get alot better and become clear cut when the hammer drops

and bad news for bikers

For a lot of Toronto cagers having anyone in front of them is unacceptable. They want the whole road for themselves. Look at some of those stupid pickup truck drivers. Total jerks.

 

[shanekingsley]

Or as PLau pointed out back on page 5

This is page 5.
You can change your viewing settings so you can see 40 posts per page.
Your world is about change.

 

[jc100]

But there was no ambulance. You're also assuming that the riders were actually holding up traffic by going slow - because some woman who got punched in the face said so. No proof of that. We're hanging our own brothers here before we have all the facts.

If they were dicking about with traffic they're not my brothers.

 

[-D-]

Lots of assumptions in this thread, mainly based on questionable news stories with questionable statements by police who themselves seem to be presuming a few things. So a few punks on bikes take over the 401 for a few minutes to pull wheelies and generally behave like morons by holding up the traffic, or so we're told. So what? It's not like we haven't seen this before, but were they actually holding up traffic? Or, were the bikers travelling at an acceptable speed (80-100mph) and a couple of drugged-out hot heads got angry about it? Look at the KNOWN facts about the loser who took off after the bikers:
The man, a 22-year-old from Kitchener, is also now facing charges including:

• Drug possession.
• Driving while under suspension.
• Dangerous driving.

"Driving while under suspension". Not exactly the stuff that would have you relying on his credibility. He and the girl sound pretty sketchy to me.

The bikers? Probably the same crew we saw a week ago. Yeah, they ride foolishly, but nobody else got into a confrontation with them. I say the people in the cage were the cause of the whole thing. All they had to do is be a little patient and the riders would have been gone.

One would think if the bikers were blocking the highway then OTHER ppl would have called the police a long time ago.

Now on the other hand, it seems we should be thankful that this drug/drunk driver came off the road before he/they killed someone...after all he had a suspended license and conditions yet there he was driving...and FLIPPED the car.

And the driver is only 23 or so...uhm...I rather the bikers on the road with me instead of some drunk drugged up hothead that can NOT drive.

Just tossing another angle out there

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