More than 120,000 federal public servants across Canada, has voted in favour of a strike

[Jampy00]

If you thought our public services was slow before.. oh boy...

 

[crankcall]

Where to start , JT has empowered the servants .


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[Scuba Steve]

Where to start , JT has empowered the servants .


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Seems like a good time to fire them all and start from scratch who's actually needed

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[Baggsy]

Well, for the last six months the union has been putting out ads saying what a great job they were doing, and we owed them all a huge increase.

 

[Mad Mike]

I'm getting tired of all the union ads, particularly the ones that are in disguise.

Political groups have to disclose who us behind ads, why not unions?

I'm all for collective bargaining, but I think the rules should be fair for each side. We elect politicians to do our bidding, why do we allow them to be so spendthrift with our money?

 

[GreyGhost]

I'm getting tired of all the union ads, particularly the ones that are in disguise.

Political groups have to disclose who us behind ads, why not unions?

I'm all for collective bargaining, but I think the rules should be fair for each side. We elect politicians to do our bidding, why do we allow them to be so spendthrift with our money?

CUPE in BC was bitching about clearing the DTES. Argue for worker safety if they want but they were clearly playing a political game.

Mayor Ken Sim’s Actions in the DTES are Cruel and Dehumanizing—CUPE BC

VANCOUVER— The province’s largest union, the Canadian Union of Public Employees-BC, is calling on Vancouver Mayor Ken Sim to reverse course on his process of decampments in the City’s Downtown Eastside (DTES). “The ongoing decampment in the DTES is the vision of Vancouver’s City Council and...

www.cupe.bc.ca

 

[nobbie48]

I'm getting tired of all the union ads, particularly the ones that are in disguise.

Political groups have to disclose who us behind ads, why not unions?

I'm all for collective bargaining, but I think the rules should be fair for each side. We elect politicians to do our bidding, why do we allow them to be so spendthrift with our money?

When there is no alternate source of service strikes should be banned.

 

[DownUnder]

If you thought our public services was slow before.. oh boy...

So instead of doing absolutely nothing at work, they will stay home and do absolutely nothing there?

 

[Mad Mike]

Let them strike, I don't need a tax refund or passport for 5 years... they can return in 2028 as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Mad Mike]

I just watched a union ad.

Sadly i was sipping a shot of Dalmore 12. It shot out my nose when I watched an ad telling me the majority of govt workers make less than $42000/year and rely on food banks.

That ad cost me $12 in scotch.

 

[crankcall]

If there was ever an essential service , it may be this .
Current govt limp wiener responses should be a delight to witness .
I like getting big happy refunds in a timely Fashion


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[nobbie48]

I just watched a union ad.

Sadly i was sipping a shot of Dalmore 12. It shot out my nose when I watched an ad telling me the majority of govt workers make less than $42000/year and rely on food banks.

That ad cost me $12 in scotch.

Population of the federal public service - Canada.ca

Snapshot Employment Numbers of the Federal Public Service.

www.canada.ca

Pinning down what a civil servant makes is not easy. There are too many organizations cherry picking numbers and confusing averages with medians. Then there are benefits on top of salaries and they are generous and for life.

Lack of bang for the buck is my biggest complaint.

 

[crankcall]

Not all benefits are generous and for life , it depends on which “union” your in and location . Don’t get me wrong it’s better than most private sector gigs , but not all gravy at all levels .
Son is a simple servant , makes 70ish , Monday to Fri and he’s in AB so his cost of living is better , and he can retire at 53 should be choose. He gets 4wks vacay so things are ok for a young man.


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[Mad Mike]

Population of the federal public service - Canada.ca

Snapshot Employment Numbers of the Federal Public Service.

www.canada.ca

Pinning down what a civil servant makes is not easy. There are too many organizations cherry picking numbers and confusing averages with medians. Then there are benefits on top of salaries and they are generous and for life.

Lack of bang for the buck is my biggest complaint.

That table shows JT has increased the size of the public service by a whopping 30% since his coronation.

 

[Mad Mike]

Not all benefits are generous and for life , it depends on which “union” your in and location . Don’t get me wrong it’s better than most private sector gigs , but not all gravy at all levels .
Son is a simple servant , makes 70ish , Monday to Fri and he’s in AB so his cost of living is better , and he can retire at 53 should be choose. He gets 4wks vacay so things are ok for a young man.


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But does he use food banks?

 

[crankcall]

I going to guess no lol .
A. That’s not his thing
B . Closest one is apparently an hour away .


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[mimico_polak]

Oh man and my EI account got locked as I’ve used it once maybe 10 years ago.

Parental leave claim needs to go through. I’ll try and call them tomorrow…

Should be fun.

 

[Georg3__]

I just watched a union ad.

Sadly i was sipping a shot of Dalmore 12. It shot out my nose when I watched an ad telling me the majority of govt workers make less than $42000/year and rely on food banks.

That ad cost me $12 in scotch.

It's true, CRA federal job group SP-01 only starts off at $41,658....

SP - Services and Programs Group - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

And this is what the managers supposedly make..

MG-SPS - Management Group - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

Come work for the CRA, one of the Top 100 Employers in Canada!

[...]
Minimum Education Required For SP01 And SP02 Positions

• Successful completion of two years of secondary school;

Minimum Education Required For SP03 And SP04 Positions

• A secondary school diploma

[...]

For SP01 Opportunities

DUTIES INCLUDE (but are not limited to):

• Sorting, scanning and filing large volumes of incoming mail and documents

For SP02 Opportunities

• Inspecting high volumes of documents and forms for accuracy and identifying errors

For SP03 Opportunities

• Reviewing and inspecting populated forms and documents, identifying and escalating issues when necessary

For SP04 Opportunities

• Receiving forms and documents that require correcting action and conducting research through internal and external sources to resolve issues

Even after going into student debt with a STEM degree you don't make much more ...

ENG1 starts off at $49958 uhhhh...

EN - Engineering - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

CS-1 starts off at $64504 uhhh.

CS - Computer Systems - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

No wonder they are so fed up

 

[Mad Mike]

It's true, CRA federal job group SP-01 only starts off at $41,658....

SP - Services and Programs Group - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

And this is what the managers supposedly make..

MG-SPS - Management Group - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

Even after going into student debt with a STEM degree you don't make much more ...

ENG1 starts off at $49958 uhhhh...

EN - Engineering - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

CS-1 starts off at $64504 uhhh.

CS - Computer Systems - Canada.ca

Annual pay rates for each occupational group and level at Canada Revenue Agency (CRA).

www.canada.ca

No wonder they are so fed up

You are assuming there are employees hired to those paygrades. Sp1 is opening mail, grade 10 education requirement, many large operations have paygrades with no employees- they keep them for temp employees.

CRA entry level jobs for those with a grade 12 education and no employment experience starts at $58k and go to $66k after 5 years. A call center rep, typical entry level job, at a big Toronto company starts at $42k. That's 40% above the national average... and in Sudbury.

I'm not yet feeling sorry for CRA workers.

 

[crankcall]

I suspect at a place like the CRA , there is also a comfort level, they will never go out of business, be sold or layoff . Keep your nose clean and retire just fine .
That’s worth something to many people


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