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man plows through motorcyclists
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Ok, so you are in your car when a rider brake-checks you, there is a bump.. You pull over, your car gets surrounded by a bunch of riders. They swarm your car, at least one knife gets pulled out and they slash your tires... How far do you wanna let them keep going until you say "enough is enough, I better gtfo"? Next step would have been blood. Theirs or mine and my family's? It's not even a choice as far as I'm concerned.
I'd get mad but I'd handle this properly by calling the popo on him. I've been involved in a situation where a cager caused a bike to crash with a boneheaded move and then tried to split. I used words and my cell phone as a camera. He knew he was screwed and waited for the police. Was stupid enough to admit blame to the cop (even though he started out blaming the rider), so I didn't even need to testify. That's how such a situation gets handled.
Now, if I saw my friend in a group that attacks a family with deadly weapons, I sure as hell wouldn't jump im and help him victimize the family. I'd make sure he gets medical attention after the fact, but what's right is right and friendship doesn't trump that. I wouldn't avenge my friend's injuries if he got hurt committing a violent crime.
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I'm sorry dude, but if I am detained by a crowd and some of them pull knives, I'm getting the **** outta dodge and if it involves running a few of them over, too bad, so sad. They shouldn't have chosen to become violent offenders. Had they made the right choice, nobody would have got run over. Simple, ain't it? 
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Naaaaaaa... Due to injuries sustained in the commission of assault on a family, his days of partying with hookers in Florida are behind him now
samakaflash
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Buddy there is fault on both sides like I originally stated I also stated I have sided with the suv driver.
You obviously have better control of your temper than I do because in a hypothetical situation ( like I was talking about in my original statment not about this particular incident) if I saw someone willfully hurt a friend (whilst not commiting a crime or attacking a family) I would lose my temper. I too have been in situations like you described and I've handled it the right way but there was a moment when the rage almost got the better of me and it took my girlfriend standing in the way to stop it lol.
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You obviously have better control of your temper than I do because in a hypothetical situation ( like I was talking about in my original statment not about this particular incident) if I saw someone willfully hurt a friend (whilst not commiting a crime or attacking a family) I would lose my temper. I too have been in situations like you described and I've handled it the right way but there was a moment when the rage almost got the better of me and it took my girlfriend standing in the way to stop it lol.
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actually there is and it met the $2000 goal rather quickly. Ok I see it got started again and now the goal is $5000.
http://www.gofundme.com/4lb9bc
there's also one for Jay Meezee as well.
http://www.gofundme.com/4l8kzo
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they've arrested the guy that busted the driver side window. A 38-year old sandwich maker.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ald-Chance-IDd-biker-beat-tech-executive.html
Here's his facebook page while it's still up:
https://www.facebook.com/reginald.chance
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ald-Chance-IDd-biker-beat-tech-executive.html
Here's his facebook page while it's still up:
https://www.facebook.com/reginald.chance
Fault on both sides? Let's do a recap...
1) Squid swerves in front of an SUV and brake-checks
2) Squid gets hit but not hurt
3) SUV pulls over as normal after a collision
4) SUV gets surrounded by a bunch of squids, they pull out knives and attack
5) SUV driver gtfo even if it's through a crowd of attackers
Had the SUV pulled a boneheaded maneuver to lead up to the attack, the squids would have plastered it all over the interwebz.
Now as for losing your temper, sometimes it's better to control yourself. I'll tell you a little story from when I was a bit less than half of Reginald Chance's age. Was out with a buddy. My buddy did something stupid. I warned him that it's not cool, that we could get nailed by the popo and told him to stop. He kept going and the popo arrived. Didn't wanna punk out on the buddy so I kept my mouth shut and let them think I was involved. Got a good beating out of it by the cops, but no arrests/charges. I was happy that a beating was all I got outta that incident. Criminal defense costs tens of thousands. If you keep your cool, you can hurt the other guy a lot more than with just a beating. The criminal "justice" system can get pretty nasty for someone who has an honest job and reports income even if he gets to walk away scott-free.
Well I have to say, when I was assigned patrol duties I saw MANY incidents and I thought how stupid can people be. But then you think about their situation at the time and you can begin to see that they were simply not thinking due to external forces, (stress, peer pressure, fear, excitement). One shift we were sitting around talking of an incident and how stupid it was for the person to have done and acted they way they did. A superior just happened to be within ear shot and came in and made a VERY valid point.
It is easy for a person to "Monday morning quarterback", but until your in that circumstance you CAN'T say how you would react, (at least not with intelligence and hindsight).
Now I am sure if Mr Lien had the option he would have rather not been on that highway at that time. He would have rather not interacted with this group of thugs, and terrorists, (Yes it is fair game to label them as such as their history and previous video demonstrates one of their favored tactics is to instill terror in their victims). I am also pretty certain Mr Lien would have rather not been placed in a position where he felt his life and that of his family were in danger. Given that we have NO video proof, other than the posted video which showed the rider was clearly in the wrong for brake checking, (an offence here in Ontario under the HTA). Mr Lien did what at the time he felt was the only option available to him, (given the situation he was PLACED in by this group), and that was to flee.
For anyone to sit comfortably behind their keyboard and suggest THEY could have dealt any better with this situation is at best fool hardy. I HAVE been in life and death situations and have been amazed at the reactions of people. Having witnessed these incidents, I can not honestly say "oh I would have handled it this way or that way", Because although I was witnessing it, I was not the one in peril at the time. These have ranged from stabbings to fatal car crashes to an officer involved shooting.
I am trained to deal with stressful situations as is any police officer, but look at the street car shooting, That officer has received, better updated training from that I received, would I have acted the way he did... I can't say as I wasn't there and a video or photo as someone else has already stated can't show EVERYTHING. In this video we see Mr Cruz, (the brake checker) focused, (apparently he was the only one at that point), on the Range Rover. But we can't tell was he screaming obscenities over some perceived wrong by the SUV or was he trying to ask the driver to move out of the riders way? We have NO clue just as we have no clue what lead him to think trying to brake check an SUV was a good idea.
So all I am trying to say is NO ONE here on GTAM can say well I would have handled it this way and that would have prevented anything from escalating. Humans ALL react the situations in a different manner and their reactions is theirs and their alone, we can look at the video and think, "not sure I would have reacted that way, but honestly UNTIL it happens to you, your just blowing smoke...
It is easy for a person to "Monday morning quarterback", but until your in that circumstance you CAN'T say how you would react, (at least not with intelligence and hindsight).
Now I am sure if Mr Lien had the option he would have rather not been on that highway at that time. He would have rather not interacted with this group of thugs, and terrorists, (Yes it is fair game to label them as such as their history and previous video demonstrates one of their favored tactics is to instill terror in their victims). I am also pretty certain Mr Lien would have rather not been placed in a position where he felt his life and that of his family were in danger. Given that we have NO video proof, other than the posted video which showed the rider was clearly in the wrong for brake checking, (an offence here in Ontario under the HTA). Mr Lien did what at the time he felt was the only option available to him, (given the situation he was PLACED in by this group), and that was to flee.
For anyone to sit comfortably behind their keyboard and suggest THEY could have dealt any better with this situation is at best fool hardy. I HAVE been in life and death situations and have been amazed at the reactions of people. Having witnessed these incidents, I can not honestly say "oh I would have handled it this way or that way", Because although I was witnessing it, I was not the one in peril at the time. These have ranged from stabbings to fatal car crashes to an officer involved shooting.
I am trained to deal with stressful situations as is any police officer, but look at the street car shooting, That officer has received, better updated training from that I received, would I have acted the way he did... I can't say as I wasn't there and a video or photo as someone else has already stated can't show EVERYTHING. In this video we see Mr Cruz, (the brake checker) focused, (apparently he was the only one at that point), on the Range Rover. But we can't tell was he screaming obscenities over some perceived wrong by the SUV or was he trying to ask the driver to move out of the riders way? We have NO clue just as we have no clue what lead him to think trying to brake check an SUV was a good idea.
So all I am trying to say is NO ONE here on GTAM can say well I would have handled it this way and that would have prevented anything from escalating. Humans ALL react the situations in a different manner and their reactions is theirs and their alone, we can look at the video and think, "not sure I would have reacted that way, but honestly UNTIL it happens to you, your just blowing smoke...
Now think of what is going through someones head when their family is put in danger.....
Its very easy to say what you would do in a certain situation but 99% of the time when in danger, you won't do what you thought you would.
Do you know how many people said thye would have attacked the 9/11 terrorists while sitting behind their computers, It is very different when ythe threat is real and you have seconds to react
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Naaaaaaa... Due to injuries sustained in the commission of assault on a family, his days of partying with hookers in Florida are behind him now
Lol I think you read that quote wrong. Did you mean to refer to Mieses?
So you're saying you would have gotten out of your car and locked yourself out of your only safe place, to confront a mob with KNIVES?! That's some excellent self-preservation instincts you've got.
What are your wife and child to do when you get your face slashed to pieces in the middle of the highway? Sit there and wait for the cops to show up while you bleed to death and the mob continues to play whack-a-mole with your car? Yeah, that's much safer.
post fromt he lien page
"Mr. Lien and his family were randomly chosen by these genetic inferiors as victims of gang violence. These Jap junk riding apes obviously chose this particular family to attack out of envy over the expensive vehicle they were in. Lowlifes will always use simple minded motives to justify their cowardly pack animal assaults. If I were in Police Commissioner Kelly's position every single one of these simian Jap Jockeys would be identified and their plastic and pot metal rice rockets confiscated to be sent back to ToJo after a pass through the crusher. I wish the Chinese victim & his family the best of luck and a case of paralisis or acute lead poisoning to the savage, arrogant, chicken **** members New York chimp rice rocket club.
posted by David Dennis 1 day ago"
wow americans
Yes, but harking back to the fundraiser held on this site.. Implying that in his current condition, Mieses is unlikely to pull an R1Timmay move for move
JFD
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I like how the dude is so talkative, so descriptive on how 'righteous' the ride/riders were, but when it comes to a direct question on what he did, he was short and to the point. (I just passed. repeat)
RR929
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Is there a video of the actual beating of Lien??? So far, only able to find pics.
Sinz
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That's funny what he wrote but I can agree with him on some points on how the biker gang acted towards the RR driver...ever watch a clan of chimpanzee's go berserk on a hunt or asserting dominance on the animal documentaries? That's exactly how that biker gang acted...right to a T.
If it were me I would take out as many as I can with my SUV lol!
No video, but lots of stills.
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