man plows through motorcyclists

He ran over bikes and very much risked killing bikers in the beginning of the shot. No one was running at his car or threatening his family at that point. You cant expect to run over peoples bikes (cars) and almost run them over and then get off Scott free. I cant believe people are blaming the bikers just because they are bikers even when they are clearly the victims. If it was pack mentality, then they wouldve all tried to smash his car before he even ran over their bikes. If us bikers are so biased against ourselves even when we are attacked, we cant expect the public to have a diiferent opinion of us and that goes for cops too.

:lmao: this whole post. Let it happen to you and then talk.
 
I 100 percent support this. If they were intimidated in the beginning, pull over and let just the riders pass, it's not like this is an everyday event.
 
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But no one was rushing at him in the beginning. I'm sure if you got in a fender bender and you yelled a few choice words at the driver you wouldn't expect to get run over. It's assault with a deadly weapon.

Let's replace the SUV with a cop car and the cop pulled out a gun and start shooting, 'cus he was intimidated. Are you going to say it's justified because 3 guys were yelling at him and he was scared for his life from 3 unarmed bikers? To me using the SUV to run over people is on the same scale as pulling out a gun and shooting at them, both are deadly weapons.

Just want to add that a few of the bikers are definitely idiots. Pack mentality at its worst.


If you look at the beginning of the video after he bumps the rider you can see at least three guys get off their bike to confront him...you're telling me that if a pack of riders surround your car you would try to rationalize with them? And I'm tired of the entitlement riders get when on the bike...don't get me wrong I don't agree with him running over the bikes but like I said he had his family in the car...I would rather protect them then a bunch of riders rushing at my car. My .02
 
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But no one was rushing at him in the beginning. I'm sure if you got in a fender bender and you yelled a few choice words at the driver you wouldn't expect to get run over. It's assault with a deadly weapon.

Let's replace the SUV with a cop car and the cop pulled out a gun and start shooting, 'cus he was intimidated. Are you going to say it's justified because 3 guys were yelling at him and he was scared for his life from 3 unarmed bikers? To me using the SUV to run over people is on the same scale as pulling out a gun and shooting at them, both are deadly weapons.

Just want to add that a few of the bikers are definitely idiots. Pack mentality at its worst.

I don't recall the guy who brake checked the SUV being dumb enough to stand in front of it.

You don't seem to have been watching the same video clip that I did.
 
But no one was rushing at him in the beginning. I'm sure if you got in a fender bender and you yelled a few choice words at the driver you wouldn't expect to get run over. It's assault with a deadly weapon.

Let's replace the SUV with a cop car and the cop pulled out a gun and start shooting, 'cus he was intimidated. Are you going to say it's justified because 3 guys were yelling at him and he was scared for his life from 3 unarmed bikers? To me using the SUV to run over people is on the same scale as pulling out a gun and shooting at them, both are deadly weapons.

I'm not the confrontational type but if someone was coming at me yelling and threatening me after a fender bender then I would do what's necessary. I'm not saying I would run over the person but I would protect myself if I was threatened. I'm sorry but if three of those guys came up to your car in this scenario and you're literally surrounded by all those riders you would be foolish to assume that everything would just be settled by swapping insurance. Like others have posted it quickly becomes a mob mentality Like I said earlier I don't think what he did was right but when it comes down to it he has to protect his family and himself.
 
I didnt realize someone walking up to your car after you hit them is a crime that justifies running over people in an SUV lol Next time someone yells at me, ill just pull out a gun and shoot them and tell the cops, well he "seemed" angry so it justifies my pre-emptive assault. twice lol And as someone up there mentioned, after most fender benders, people are mad and they get out of the car but then they exchange insurance and/or wait for the cops. this guy had it in for the bikers so stop defending someone almost running over people just because they "seemed" mad AFTER he hit them lol
 
I'm not the confrontational type but if someone was coming at me yelling and threatening me after a fender bender then I would do what's necessary. I'm not saying I would run over the person but I would protect myself if I was threatened. I'm sorry but if three of those guys came up to your car in this scenario and you're literally surrounded by all those riders you would be foolish to assume that everything would just be settled by swapping insurance. Like others have posted it quickly becomes a mob mentality Like I said earlier I don't think what he did was right but when it comes down to it he has to protect his family and himself.

Exactly. Not to mention he has a wife and small kid in the car.
Also a bit of a stretch but, I think driving a range rover (image of $$) would have worked to his disadvantage as its another point of hatred (rich snob).
 
If you look at the beginning of the video after he bumps the rider you can see at least three guys get off their bike to confront him...you're telling me that if a pack of riders surround your car you would try to rationalize with them? And I'm tired of the entitlement riders get when on the bike...don't get me wrong I don't agree with him running over the bikes but like I said he had his family in the car...I would rather protect them then a bunch of riders rushing at my car. My .02

The only thing he had to do after rearending is to pull over and call the cops, sit tight till they arrive, simple and safe.
 
I'm not even sure that the video shows the initial incident, that predicated the confrontation. All that I saw appeared to be the riders trying to block in and stop the Rover.

This is the sort of thing that riders need to think about, when doing group rides. I've had to deal with road rage on a smallish, 15 bike ride. Someone thought that he was being held up by us and started passing through the pack. Think about it when you've got dozens of bikes, blocking all lanes. It didn't necessarily start as a road rage incident but a few dozen (or a hundred) bikes, blocking all lanes of travel, will result in some very impatient cagers.
 
I'm not even sure that the video shows the initial incident, that predicated the confrontation. All that I saw appeared to be the riders trying to block in and stop the Rover.

This is the sort of thing that riders need to think about, when doing group rides. I've had to deal with road rage on a smallish, 15 bike ride. Someone thought that he was being held up by us and started passing through the pack. Think about it when you've got dozens of bikes, blocking all lanes. It didn't necessarily start as a road rage incident but a few dozen (or a hundred) bikes, blocking all lanes of travel, will result in some very impatient cagers.
I agree and this does happen sometimes but the solution is to call the cops not run people over and potentially injure or even kill them.
 
Watch the video and you can see that they're trying to rip the door open. The article says that they were damaging his vehicle while this was going on.

Put yourself in the driver's seat with your wife and kid in the car and let's see you then just sit there to see what happens to you.

Take the vehicles out of the equation here; surrounded by an angry mob that's getting violent with you, while you're with your wife and kid, and you're telling me that you wouldn't take whatever action necessary to protect yourself and your kid?

********.

I find it disturbing that forums such as gixxer.com are looking at this with more common sense then this forum.
 
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So you would pull over and sit tightly in your vehicle whilst having guys outside your vehicle threatening and possibly getting violent? Hmmm doubt it.
 
Watch the video and you can see that they're trying to rip the door open. The article says that they were damaging his vehicle while this was going on.

Put yourself in the driver's seat with your wife and kid in the car and let's see you then just sit there to see what happens to you.

Take the vehicles out of the equation here; surrounded by an angry mob that's getting violent with you while with your wife and kid and you're telling me that you wouldn't take whatever action necessary to protect yourself and your kid?

********.

I find it disturbing that forums such as gixxer.com are looking at this with more common sense then this forum.

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I agree and this does happen sometimes but the solution is to call the cops not run people over and potentially injure or even kill them.

I can't say that I would behave any differently, if an obviously aggressive group of people was trying to get to myself and my family. I think that I would quite likely drive over or through anyone who got in my way, in order to get to the nearest police station.
 
I'm pretty mixed about this as I understand both sides of the article but in the end, the man tried to kill multiple people.
 
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I'm pretty mixed about this as I understand both sides of the article but in the end, the man tried to kill multiple people.

And that, right there, is where the issue of point of view gets raised. From the riders' point of view, he was trying to kill them. From his point of view he was simply trying to escape a group of dangerous people, who were trying to get at him and his family, and he was just trying to get away. That people might be injured or killed was incidental, especially given that the people who might be injured or killed were the ones he feared would do the same to himself, and his family.

You need to see both sides.
 
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I'm pretty mixed about this as I understand both sides of the article but in the end, the man tried to kill multiple people.

No, he tried to escape what was obviously a dangerous situation for his family. I'm sure that if he'd wanted to kill one of them, he could have done that quite easily.
 
Family first. **** those little hooligans. It's the losers like this that turn motorcycle riding into a gangsta world yo. Same mentality as the ****heads in Missouri. The suv driver showed intent on stopping. The rest they brought on themselves. Can't imagine why cops and the general public don't like group rides or motorcycles in general. :rolleyes:
 
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