That's all you have?
Man charged for not giving phone password
- Thread starter CruisnGrrl
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CBSA officers holds secret clearances. There are very few instances where such a violation would occur and as long as the person in front of the officer is acting like a normal person with proper articulation and not tin foil knee jerk internet reactions usually it never comes to a battle of my clearance outweighs yours.
The thing to note CBSA doesn't conduct fishing expeditions looking for stock tips, insider information, trade secrets etc. If someone said "hey, this is my work computer, my company has a contract with DND and on this computer are articles, files ect that I'm concern my showing to you would constitute a violation of my companies security policies etc", it would probably result in a conversation over that, over a "really? Well the law says you must present all goods so I'm going to look anyways..." They aren't reading files they are browsing files, and there are also at most major border entry points ways too look for the files of interests without looking at work products. Child porn for most people isn't a word document.
This is the issue when people start anticipating conflict where no conflict exists, they start building things up in their mind making mountains out of molehills and getting their backs up creating the exact self fulfilling issues they were trying to prevent.
Do I let random strangers on the street go through my electronics? No. So why would I volunteer to have a stranger in a uniform go through my stuff? I don't care what the CBSA looks or doesn't look for. They're just people, like anybody else.
I expect the laws and rules to be well defined. If Im legally obligated to hand over my password, then so be it. But that obligation needs to be defined somewhere.
Its not tin-foil at all. Its about privacy. I don't care if YOU have nothing to hide. I don't have anything to hide either; that doesn't mean I just hand over my stuff for strangers to ruffle through.
I expect the laws and rules to be well defined. If Im legally obligated to hand over my password, then so be it. But that obligation needs to be defined somewhere.
Its not tin-foil at all. Its about privacy. I don't care if YOU have nothing to hide. I don't have anything to hide either; that doesn't mean I just hand over my stuff for strangers to ruffle through.
They are people with huge authority when it comes to inspecting and determining whether to detain you and everything you have with you. That makes them something other than "just people, like anybody else".
Apples and oranges.
On this point you and I can agree.
They're robots? Cyborgs? Aliens?
My point was that its a PERSON looking through your stuff. Yes they have special uniforms and authority, but they're just people. To me it makes no difference if its an officer or a stranger on the street... privacy is privacy. Its not too much to ask for clarification of the laws.
Can you elaborate?
Do CBSA guards have Controlled Goods certification and ITAR clearance?
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Good to see someone gets it lol. Wtf is there to hide seriously? I think it's an invasion of privacy yes but the end of the world?
Come on bro, if you don't have anything to hide, what's the difference? Snnnap
Each time we say "but the end of the world?" we lose a bit of privacy and that's been a VERY slippery slope over the last couple of decades. Thanks, but no thanks. Bottom line:
1) I want my privacy
2) I don't wanna be treated like a criminal
Is that too much to ask?
Don't cross the border or leave the Country then.
Don't leave the country, don't cross the checkpoint, don't leave the house
And in your home country, don't open your curtains if you don't wanna be on a CCTV video feed
And in your home country, don't open your curtains if you don't wanna be on a CCTV video feed
Not where i come from, nothing but fields. Unless the cattle are wearing cameras.
Live off the grid, FTP man lol.
