Man charged for not giving phone password

Lightcycle said:
You're slipping meme!

Normally you're quick to point out, "it's spelled with an h"... :)
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Short "a", for the short ***. Get it right.

Now I'm paranoid, busy wiping my BlackBerry of all the really bad porn before Vegas!
 
SunnY S said:
The security wipe on a BlackBerry takes about half hour minimum. From my experience of years of BB tinkering and ownership, I'm positive there is no 'trace' of any data when it's finished. It just reverts back to the stock OS settings when fired up again.

You can reload your backed up OS, settings, data, pics just as you had before the wipe, and carry on as nothing happened.

Nobody does security better than BlackBerry. Period.



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Uh yeah that's exactly my point, it's not a wipe that you do as you're walking up to the CBSA counters. You need to know ahead of time that its your plan to securely erase the device.

1. It takes the same amount of time on whatever device you have, its a function of overwriting the internal memory through multiple passes.

2. The devices available to law enforcement can read and copy Blackberry just as easily as iPhone or Android or Windows phone. There's nothing secure about your BB.

3. Encryption is encryption is encryption. BB, Android, iOS. Doesn't matter. Its almost entirely dependent on password strength to prevent cracking.
 
Lightcycle said:
Hot Random Traveler Chick Porn.

Nice!
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I have subscribed to your newsletter good sir and await the regular updates. Happy Travels!
 
woodgo said:
If however you are really a top secret agent like "caboose56" then your agency will have a Memorandum of Understanding with the CBSA regarding the inspection of those items, like let's say the military, and your super top secret files will not be compromised. Any security conscious company is not sending super sensitive info across the border in the hands of their "subject to inspection" employee. If they are then either they need a new head of security or they have led the employee to believe their role within the company and the information they possess is much more powerful than it actually is.
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I carry MoMs, LOIs and export permits for everything for any work excursion that crosses a border.

I also think you're exaggerating when it comes to super sensitive material. American companies like to go overboard with the ITAR registration, as such we often encounter issues where a nut or bolt can be ITAR controlled, and the drawing for said nut or bolt is then ITAR controlled. I work for a defense contractor, I'm not a super spy (even though I have Secret Level II security clearance). It's not like I have nuclear launch codes on my lappy but I do have ITAR controlled technical stuff.

We use WebFront as often as possible so I don't need to store ITAR/CG stuff on my devices but sometimes WebFront is not an option.

An encounter with an over zealous CBSA guard is what I think could happen. It's happened before while crossing back into Canada after being in the US for work. Nothing ended up coming of it but a CBSA guard I was dealing with was a superhugemegabitch for no reason and threatened to seize all the equipment I had with me. Her supervisor took over and everything was fine.
 
SunnY S said:
Simple. Before you take your trip. Do a full back up of your device. Then wipe it, when it boots up, it just goes to stock OS and settings and laugh as there will be nothing for them to look at on it and tell them you just bought the phone new and are still setting it up. When you cross the border, reload your device again with the backed up copy (using a PC or laptop) and carry on like nothing happened. Easily done on my BlackBerry, and I don't see why it wouldn't work on other OS's.
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And where exactly do you keep this laptop with your FruitFone backup to reload once you cross the border? Down the front of your pants?
 
"This is a question that has not been litigated in Canada, whether they can actually demand you to hand over your password to allow them to unlock the device," he said. "[It's] one thing for them to inspect it, another thing for them to compel you to help them."
 
pfft
easy way to avoid this grief
not telling
another reason to love the Android platform

going through your phone to me is the same as them coming into your house then searching your file cabinet without a warrant
 
ZX600 said:
"This is a question that has not been litigated in Canada, whether they can actually demand you to hand over your password to allow them to unlock the device," he said. "[It's] one thing for them to inspect it, another thing for them to compel you to help them."
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The quick answer to that is that they will just prohibit entry of the device into the country until such time as it is inspected to their satisfaction.
 
-D- said:
pfft
easy way to avoid this grief
not telling
another reason to love the Android platform
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There's only one 'easy way' to bypass this grief with Android, and it depends on your CBSA agent simply not being diligent enough to easily spot it.

Wow, guest or second account mode with a different swipe pattern.

Guess what, it doesn't fool their machines while they're copying the entire image of your system and data partitions for later use.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
And where exactly do you keep this laptop with your FruitFone backup to reload once you cross the border? Down the front of your pants?
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back it up by downloading and using BlackBerry Link on your laptop. then change the name of the backup file to "Nickelback Tunes" or "iTunes .exe files" or some other silly name.

delete BB Link from your laptop to alleviate any suspicion.

when you cross the border, just d/l blackberry link again, put in your BB id, and re d/l the OS back onto your phone.....


even IF, in the unlikely event that they scour every file on your laptop and want to find out whats on your BB OS, they still need your password to access it.... https://www.elcomsoft.com/help/en/eppb/decrypt_blackberry_link_backup.html


I highly doubt your typical border guy would analyze every file on your laptop that deeply unless you were a suspected terrorist....
 
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What the hell do you guys have to hide. I get the whole personal space thing but as you can see on the news even Canadians can't be trusted
 
daisoman said:
What the hell do you guys have to hide. I get the whole personal space thing but as you can see on the news even Canadians can't be trusted
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I don't care what's on the news. I want my privacy.
 
one has the option to simply return to there own country if they do not like the stipulations of entry into another, walk away-go home.
 
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