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We are in Montreal at Embassy Suites. Six floors of underground parking. The number of high end end cars is unreal. Porsche, Bentley, Aston Martin and on. They must have great security.
 
crankcall said:
Insurance company VPs met last week , theft deductable on F150, Range Rover , Tacoma , Lexus SUVs going to 5K , in the GTA . They cant slow the thefts , so owners get to help make up the slack .
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While not the way I wanted to accomplish the goal, this may get Ford and Toyota to improve things. After paying $5k deductible, the replacement vehicle will likely be from a competitor that insurance companies don't hate.
 
Wingboy said:
We are in Montreal at Embassy Suites. Six floors of underground parking. The number of high end end cars is unreal. Porsche, Bentley, Aston Martin and on. They must have great security.
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Montreal? A hotel is a great way to launder mob money. It's possible the garage may be on the "do not disturb" list.
 
No to anything affordable on Range Rover , my brother is on his fourth , this one a turbo diesel, he gets them as company cars , the cost to keep them on the road is stupid .


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Curious, if they know most of these cars are going overseas in containers. How hard is it to have security look into the container for stolen vehicles? Don't they need manifests for contents.
 
sburns said:
Curious, if they know most of these cars are going overseas in containers. How hard is it to have security look into the container for stolen vehicles? Don't they need manifests for contents.
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They can x-ray them at the port but they need the equipment etc., ie, cost, shipping delays, manpower, excuses...

Personally I think if the police (and the courts) took it seriously we would be in a much better situation.
 
sburns said:
Curious, if they know most of these cars are going overseas in containers. How hard is it to have security look into the container for stolen vehicles? Don't they need manifests for contents.
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I am assuming the stolen vehicles don't have that on the manifest. Pick something that is plausible and would have similar weight (eg. SPF). The odds of the container being inspected in any fashion are exceedingly low. If they happen to find the occasional container, you lost a lot of potential profit but lost very little existing money.
 
They would need an army of border agents.

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The Montreal Port Authority (MPA) is an autonomous federal agency created under the terms of the Canada Marine Act. It does everything in its power to make the Port of Montreal as competitive as possible, and from this perspective provides first-rate facilities to sea and land carriers, to...
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GreyGhost said:
I am assuming the stolen vehicles don't have that on the manifest. Pick something that is plausible and would have similar weight (eg. SPF). The odds of the container being inspected in any fashion are exceedingly low. If they happen to find the occasional container, you lost a lot of potential profit but lost very little existing money.
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True, that is just a starting point.

@backmarkerducati exactly, why are they not taking this seriously. This all ends the same way for the rest of us. Insurance costs rising.
It's stupid that TPS best advice is to leave you keys at the door, when they could try at least to mitigate cars leaving the way they are.
I woulds say if any container suspect to have vehicles in them put aside. I'm sure the shipping companies have loads of other containers they could put in as replacements.
 
Wingboy said:
They would need an army of border agents.

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The Montreal Port Authority (MPA) is an autonomous federal agency created under the terms of the Canada Marine Act. It does everything in its power to make the Port of Montreal as competitive as possible, and from this perspective provides first-rate facilities to sea and land carriers, to...
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Well with all the billions wasted on empty projects I rather the money go here and hire actual people instead of giving it away. But hey that's just me thinking with common sense.
 
Wingboy said:
They would need an army of border agents.

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If you xrayed containers going through a choke point you could drastically increase the number of containers where you have some idea of contents. It should be pretty simple for software to look at xrays and identify vehicles vs appliances or wood for instance (look for huge lump of engine or battery pack surrounded by much less density). A person looks at the xrays that get flagged. Not much manpower required. When chokepoint gets busy, they could let some through without scanning to speed up the process but maybe scan at least 20% instead of the less than 4% they currently inspect (and I suspect they focus more on incoming than outgoing so I suspect that a far lower percentage of exported containers are checked). That would up their catch rate by at least 5x and may destroy commercial viability of steal and export. Upping the catch rate would require a lot more manpower to investigate the seized goods but that is a worthwhile expense imo as you are stopping a real problem.

Here's an article from the US where they aborted the program due to cost and limited finding as it was at a facility were not much smuggling happened. Scan took one minute per container and could find packages down to 2lbs. You could probably speed the whole thing up greatly if you went lower resolution as a sanity check vs manifest.

www.freightwaves.com

FreightWaves Flashback: Customs X-rays containers

1994: Despite its effectiveness in catching contraband, Customs pulls the plug on X-ray procedures at Tacoma.
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Oy. Provinces solution to the problem is to spend $50M on four police helicopters. That seems like it will have almost zero effect on vehicle thefts or recoveries as most don't get reported fast enough to be tracked anyway.

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New police helicopters in Ontario to help fight car theft, find missing people

Four new police helicopters will help fight the car-theft crisis and assist searches for missing vulnerable people, the province and Toronto-area police forces say.
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