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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
- Thread starter Paul
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The humour
Can't drive, can't shoot and doesn't know how to run with his pants falling down.
Sad that he probably thinks he's a badass.
It's always a treat to watch criminals run with their pants half way down...... on purpose.
Dirty Frank
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I think that its part of their new contract as the police services have a hiring crunch and have gotten lax on their physical fitness requirements for new recruits.
Special Investigations Unit -- News Release
This is the News Release page of the SIU website.
siu.on.ca
Mikedezo44
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Good tip off or extremely lucky break? Either way I hope they didn't blunder anything in the investigation to get charges dropped in court.
www.cp24.com
Millions of unmarked cigarettes seized during Burlington traffic stop: OPP
A man is facing charges after allegedly transporting millions of unmarked cigarettes, Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) say.
www.cp24.com
Mad Mike
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That smells like a 2 year paid vacation for some cops and a fat settlement for a thug.Special Investigations Unit -- News Release
This is the News Release page of the SIU website.
Taxpayers… I raise a toast to our government!
Finally a small victory. Suspended driver caught driving for the third time since April (after a bad driving complaint so they suck as well). Cops seized the vehicle until trial is over or she gets a court order to release it.
www.guelphtoday.com
Woman caught driving with suspended licence ... for the 3rd time this year
Caught driving while suspended on Hadati Road following a driving complaint
www.guelphtoday.com
It is a step in the right direction but many of these people are just driving beaters. Better if the car had some real value, hopefully it does.Finally a small victory. Suspended driver caught driving for the third time since April (after a bad driving complaint so they suck as well). Cops seized the vehicle until trial is over or she gets a court order to release it.
Woman caught driving with suspended licence ... for the 3rd time this year
Caught driving while suspended on Hadati Road following a driving complaint
When insurance costs more than the car is worth.
Even if it's a beater, this could be a financial disaster. Storage fees at hundreds per day with no limit. Tow company is happy to send goons or go to collections if their entire bill isn't paid.
In theory that may be true, but growing up I knew a few people that did similar things, here is what I saw....
Buy a beater, no safety, no insurance, no license, never change the ownership, rinse and repeat (beater of the month club we called it). Already breaking the law, might as well do it across the board. Their life is already a giant train wreck, the size of the hole is so big that bigger is immaterial. Tow/Storage has little leverage other than the goons trying to get blood from a stone. It does slow them down as they need to get another beater and today that likely costs them another $1500 (maybe much less, depends on how beater it is). In some cases they may still be doing the above but due to wanted status and ego they dropped much more coin on the vehicle (sad old BMW is a common example--post luxury car).
What I like about the vehicle seizure is the other scenario where someone is enabling them by letting them use their car, now THAT person gets hit hard... this is good. That person does have something to lose.
There is a limit.. depending on the reason her licence is suspended.
In this case, it sounds like the practical limit will be something like 18 months. That's the typical timeframe to get a trial. I can't imagine that her requesting time in court to obtain a court order to release her vehicle would be much faster (even assuming that she bothered to pay for a lawyer to help her in court). I have heard of mandatory time-limited seizures before. I haven't heard of a seizure that requires courts to release the vehicle.
Dirty Frank
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The point of driving a beater in that situation is the reduction of a financial hit if it gets seized you simply walk away and let the towing co auction it off
Doesn't work that way. Your liability is not limited to the value of the car. They are free to chase you, wreck your credit and send you to collections for the remainder of their exorbitant bill.
Dirty Frank
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For most people that might be a deterrent but the class of folk perpetrating these moves they couldn't care less.
Already poor credit and immune to garnishment they simply laugh and say "the line starts here"
driving while suspended is 45 days for 1st, 90 for 2nd and 180 for 3rd or above.. in a 2 year period.
Assuming they took her car each time.. and the timeline.. it sounds like she's driving again as soon as she gets it back.
It's 90 days for no insurance... not sure if that's roadside or on conviction. Escalating fines for second and third offence.
The potential fines for all of it could get up into 6 figures.
Maybe they picked a different subsection for the impoundment without a time limit? As usual, we don't have all the facts. Cops said vehicle is impounded until trial is complete or court order to release. That seems to conflict with HTA 53 where you got your information.
You guys are funny... these people getting caught multiple times without a license/insurance/etc. have already dug a hole so large more fines, credit hits, beater impound fees (BTW the vehicle is still in the previous owner's name as they do not transfer it, why pay taxes...), whatever $$$s make zero difference to them, they just keep digging. In fact once this cycle has started adding on just makes sure they will NEVER go legit. The mistake society makes is thinking everyone is like ourselves and will consider these things deterrents. Not quite there but in these cases it is not far off handing out big fines to homeless people.
Escalating jail time on each offence is the only thing they will understand, at minimum it keeps them off the road while behind bars. There is always the capacity argument--across the board it sounds like we need to increase prison system capacity??
Escalating jail time on each offence is the only thing they will understand, at minimum it keeps them off the road while behind bars. There is always the capacity argument--across the board it sounds like we need to increase prison system capacity??
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