Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.5%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.5%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 56 50.0%
  • Total voters
    112
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Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

Funny thing, when I was little, every second kid wanted to be a cop.

What has changed since then?
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

mxs said:
Why ..... is the simple question?
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Because selling involves a certain level of deceipt. Those who are good at it make it often make it part of their day to day affairs.
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

No I think the lawyer one is pretty much based almost entirely 2 subsets yet very visible areas of law,

Criminal Defence, and Family.

I don't get negative reactions except from people that have no idea what I do and think I do one of the 2 above things.
 
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OpenGambit said:
No I think the lawyer one is pretty much based almost entirely 2 subsets yet very visible areas of law,

Criminal Defence, and Family.

I don't get negative reactions except from people that have no idea what I do and think I do one of the 2 above things.
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I imagine that tax, real-estate and some other types of lawyers handling money and estates, have more negative publicity than Family.

fastar1 said:
Because selling involves a certain level of exclusion of information. Those who are good at it make it often make it part of their day to day affairs.
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Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

you imagine? when was the last time you heard anyone say anything bad about a tax lawyer, other than the fact that may be boring...

on the other hand. family lawyers are one of the most likely to suffer harm out out of all legal disiplines. especially at the hands of the oopposing spouse.
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

OpenGambit said:
you imagine? when was the last time you heard anyone say anything bad about a tax lawyer, other than the fact that may be boring...

on the other hand. family lawyers are one of the most likely to suffer harm out out of all legal disiplines. especially at the hands of the oopposing spouse.
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Interesting answer. Which type of lawyer is most likely to appear in a negative newspaper article?

Or are they all considered extremely honest?

Where do ambulance chasers rank?

Everybody likes when their lawyer wins.
 
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Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

I don't see how a tax lawyer could absond with your money...

and you are comparing the concept of doing just a certain type of work, to fraud and losing your career type behaviour. That doesn't have to do with just a general idea of the profession, more like the "some people suck".. exactly the same as your post above.
 
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I don't see how a family lawyer could be blamed for a spouse's wrath...
 
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There are bullet holes in the wall of a particular bay street firm that disagree with you.
I decline to name the firm but they dont' do family law anymore.

but I don't tihnk you really understand what family law litigation really entails. I hope you don't tho, cause its one of the worst things that can happen to someone.
 
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fastar1 said:
To filter out the honest ones maybe.

I heard that one of the questions in the psych test is "have you ever stolen anything?" to which the only acceptable answer is "no", even though that's almost certainly a lie.
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Why would you say that it's "almost certainly a lie"?
 
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Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

Maybe more along the lines of getting bad advice from a tax lawyer and a call from the CRA. Also, some lawyers work for CRA, and some people have a negative feeling about that whole agency.

I've dealt with a tax lawyer that is totally honest and I've known since high school, helped write up my will, which I think is more of a family law thing.

Obviously, you're talking about the divorce aspect of family law, where one spouse could end up living in someone's basement eating fried baloney for dinner or worse.

Is there a general hatred for family lawyers or is it contained within the group who have lost during a divorce?

I believe that there are more aspects to family law than just divorce, isn't there?
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

Wills are often a tax matter. Estate planning is pretty benign work in my view...

As far as family law goes, it usually deals with prenups, custody, support... its all litigation, its all distasteful, people hate each other afterwards...
Every dollar you get is a dollar that someone else won't get. /puke

of course thats just my opinion... But from where I am standing, in terms of getting hate from the general population... Crim defence and family top the list.
 
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EngineerJoe said:
Why would you that it's "almost certainly a lie"?
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Because it's almost certain that any given person has at the very least swiped a cupcake from his friend's kitchen, or copied a song off the radio, or found something of value and not reported it, or whatever. You don't have to hang with the wrong crowd to know that almost everybody has done it.
 
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fastar1 said:
Because it's almost certain that any given person has at the very least swiped a cupcake from his friend's kitchen, or copied a song off the radio, or found something of value and not reported it, or whatever. You don't have to hang with the wrong crowd to know that almost everybody has done it.
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Not the definition I was using for "stolen"...
 
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OpenGambit said:
Wills are often a tax matter. Estate planning is pretty benign work in my view...

As far as family law goes, it usually deals with prenups, custody, support... its all litigation, its all distasteful, people hate each other afterwards...
Every dollar you get is a dollar that someone else won't get. /puke

of course thats just my opinion... But from where I am standing, in terms of getting hate from the general population... Crim defence and family top the list.
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Which type of lawyer was Alan Eagleson?
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

OpenGambit said:
There are bullet holes in the wall of a particular bay street firm that disagree with you.
I decline to name the firm but they dont' do family law anymore.

but I don't tihnk you really understand what family law litigation really entails. I hope you don't tho, cause its one of the worst things that can happen to someone.
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My dad said more than once that he wanted to kill my mother's lawyer. The guy had good reason to be concerned although nothing ever came of it.

I certainly get Opengambit's point.
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

Baggsy said:
Which type of lawyer was Alan Eagleson?
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Not sure why it matters. I never argued which type of lawyer can theorically cause the most harm. I am talking about stigma attached to the type of law practiced just because of the field.

I could easily say johnny cochrane. And that is way closer to what ppl think of when you say "lawyer" to them. Alan eagleson is hardly the person that comes to mind when one thinks of a "lawyer".
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

I could say Jean Chretian. I think there is more of a general distrust rather than just specific varieties. A lawyer joke is a lawyer joke, not a family lawyer joke or a corporate lawyer joke.

Can't any lawyer technically perform any function?

I know a family lawyer personally and never heard tell of such issues.
 
Re: Wonder why some folks distrust LEO's?

I am no expert on lawyer jokes but aren't they mostly litigation based.

yes lawyers can be both barristers and solicitors in Canada and the US, that because we have graduate level degrees. under the British system you have to pick one or the other.
 
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